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Detention for asking period question

211 replies

Hoiz · 01/02/2024 13:47

A female relative of mine (year 5). Recently had a lesson on puberty, specifically periods.

After school my relative and a few friends were getting ready to go to an after school club, they were still discussing last lesson on puberty, when relative asked friend if her sister (goes to same school) had started her period. The friend took massive offence and cried. Relative apologised straight away.

A teacher was found and a detention has been issued.

My relative is a nice, sweet girl.

Aibu to think this was harsh?

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Hoiz · 01/02/2024 18:32

Maireas · 01/02/2024 18:28

So where did you see this "write up" that you referred to? I don't understand the system.

Edited

It’s a slip the parent needs to sign. There is box where a description of what happened is noted. The girl’s mum shared it on a family WhatsApp group.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 01/02/2024 18:32

I usually support the school or at the very least tell dd that she must follow the rules even if she doesn’t agree with them etc. As a parent I’d be pushing back on this one. It was an innocent question.

VanilleA · 01/02/2024 18:35

Hoiz · 01/02/2024 18:32

It’s a slip the parent needs to sign. There is box where a description of what happened is noted. The girl’s mum shared it on a family WhatsApp group.

Why can't mum just deal with it herself?

Happyhippy99 · 01/02/2024 18:42

Caerulea · 01/02/2024 18:30

Periods are not a medical thing & they certainly do not sit alongside fucking cancer!

Obviously they are different.And as a nurse I believe girls MUST be given detailed information about periods at school. Not all parents can or will discuss periods with girls for various reasons.
BUT the detention is for asking rude personal questions about another’s girls sister. If the school doesn’t issue a detention and teach the girl some basic manners she will assume she can ask anyone personal medical questions.

pigsDOfly · 01/02/2024 18:42

Utterly ridiculous giving detention for such a question.

Perhaps not the politest question to ask but if every child in school was given detention for being impolite to their peers pretty much every child in the country would be in detention several times a week.

I went to an all girls' school many years ago, I'm 75 now, and among the various groups of friends, and even with some girls who weren't particularly close friends, we pretty much knew every girl who had started their periods in our class.

Nobody seems bothered about other girls knowing, in fact it seemed more like something of a rite of passage and certainly nothing to be embarrassed about.

Hoiz · 01/02/2024 18:43

I was curious if we were all in the wrong for thinking it was a bit heavy handed (consensus on WhatsApp group).

The girl apologised immediately. Think that counts for something.

This is literally her first encounter with the subject (think they drew a penis and vagina last yr), so the boundaries are unknown and need to be learned -ideally in a non punitive manner.

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2mummies1baby · 01/02/2024 18:46

Hoiz · 01/02/2024 14:05

Sorry they’re in year 6 - which is housed in the senior school (hope that is not too outing)

Ooh, this has given me a hint- are the school's initials SHS by any chance? And is it in Greater London?

Agree this is a ridiculous reason for a detention.

Wednesdaysphiltrum · 01/02/2024 18:47

Way to go to teach them periods are something shameful!

I agree. What a ludicrous own goal by the school. Fuck sake…

Hoiz · 01/02/2024 18:57

2mummies1baby · 01/02/2024 18:46

Ooh, this has given me a hint- are the school's initials SHS by any chance? And is it in Greater London?

Agree this is a ridiculous reason for a detention.

No! Phew! I was starting to think how potentially outing the yr 6/senior school thing was.

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TheGreatestAtuin · 01/02/2024 19:03

Ridiculous reason for detention.

But detention at primary school is utterly ridiculous IMO.

Maireas · 01/02/2024 19:07

I think you should take her out of that school and put her in a regular state primary school.

Josette77 · 01/02/2024 19:09

Hoiz · 01/02/2024 18:43

I was curious if we were all in the wrong for thinking it was a bit heavy handed (consensus on WhatsApp group).

The girl apologised immediately. Think that counts for something.

This is literally her first encounter with the subject (think they drew a penis and vagina last yr), so the boundaries are unknown and need to be learned -ideally in a non punitive manner.

This school sounds weird ASF.

I wouldn't want my 9 yo drawing penises and vulvas in school.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 01/02/2024 19:11

This is ridiculous. Her mother should absolutely be challenging the school over this. They teach them about periods then shame them by punishment for asking an innocent question, as she was yet to learn about boundaries regarding puberty.

If I were the mother, I'd be refusing consent for the detention.

How dare they try to shame the girl for asking an innocent question about what they had just been taught. Shocking behaviour from the teacher.

DelphineFox · 01/02/2024 19:13

I don't believe the story is exactly as you've said. It may be what you've been told but that doesn't mean it's exactly what happened. You weren't there

YankSplaining · 01/02/2024 19:14

falafelover · 01/02/2024 18:19

The usual Mumsnet confusion around shame vs privacy. (Some of you really need to understand the difference.)

Periods are nothing to be ashamed of. But someone's personal experience of their own periods is a private subject, to be discussed only on their terms. The girl needed to learn that asking such intrusive questions – especially about someone else not present – is inappropriate.

Detention is a bit much but I'm not surprised the other girl reacted badly. I'm sure there's more to this. It may well be that the girl is known to be socially clumsy, and her peers will be rather brutal about it (as kids are).

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It’s very odd to me that so many people here don’t understand shame vs. privacy, considering most of the posters here are mothers, and part of being a mother is teaching young children we do and don’t ask other people/say in public.

DelphineFox · 01/02/2024 19:16

relative asked friend if her sister (goes to same school) had started her period. The friend took massive offence and cried.
Hard to believe

CupOfCoffeeandaPineappleChunk · 01/02/2024 19:18

Presumably this indicates school taught the subject initially really well, that periods etc are matter of fact straightforward every day life that are simple and unremarkable, in the way, say, people in France speak French or in Spain speak Spanish. The ten year old was engaged and listened and was interested she had presumably absorbed the age she was told periods start and and was simply curious as to whether the older girl had started hers yet. She had no received no indication presumably that people might find the topic to personal or taboo.
A detention is wholly inappropriate. The school have undone the excellent work the started and ate now spreading the message that there is something shameful about periods and they are something that should never be mentioned. This really needs to be brought up with school and the message they are conveying made clear. It is inappropriate , they need to make clear their stance as an organisation in the approach they have to personal issues such as periods and sexual health. Not having to discuss something is once thing, but asking a question out of simple innocent curiosity is entirely another. Neither should be a punishable offence. School need to make a sincere apology and fully explain their reasoning. As a parent I would be furious and be asking the head and govenors for an explanation as to why punishment was given instead of an explanation that some pepole just aren't happy to discuss personal and/ or body issues and it can be rude to ask. If you don't know, you just don't know.

momonpurpose · 01/02/2024 19:25

Patchworksack · 01/02/2024 13:50

Way to go to teach them periods are something shameful! It sounds very harsh unless there is more to it. Surely being told some people aren’t comfortable sharing that information and consider it private was all that was needed?

This. What an over reaction from the other dc and school. Shocking in 2024 these type of reactions.

momonpurpose · 01/02/2024 19:30

Hoiz · 01/02/2024 14:04

Can people stop derailing with saying there is more to the story. There isn’t.

The detention slip and conversations centre around inappropriate boundaries. My relative’s mum has spoken to the teacher who was involved and there has been zero mention of nasty behaviour.

I hope the detention hasn't happened and will be fought. I have no problem with a warranted detention. This is not at all deserved.

TheDdistinguishedScarlett · 01/02/2024 19:38

Simple solution OP

ASK the teacher in question as I'm quiet certain there may be more to it than meets the eye

Cattymonster · 01/02/2024 19:38

This is absolutely nuts! If I were the parents of the child who asked the question I would not be allowing her to go to the detention. I'd also be writing to the governors to explain what has happened, to express my concern and to request an explanation.

Normally I'd be in favour of supporting schools, but when they go bananas then parents do need to intervene.

Testina · 01/02/2024 19:43

@Hoiz “This is literally her first encounter with the subject (think they drew a penis and vagina last yr), so the boundaries are unknown and need to be learned -ideally in a non punitive manner.”

Then you should tell her parents that they’re failing. One of my girls started her periods in summer term of Y6. This is way too late for this to be her first encounter “with the subject” - they are letting her down.

Cattymonster · 01/02/2024 19:50

@ExpressCheckout

The enthusiasm that inadequate and less intelligent teachers have in imposing arbitrary sanctions on children is a safeguarding concern, in my opinion.

Absolutely right! It's bizarre.

BoohooWoohoo · 01/02/2024 19:58

ThanksItHasPockets · 01/02/2024 17:53

Something doesn’t add up here. State schools
in the UK do not, as a rule, use detentions.

They use “staying in at playtime” for things like bad behaviour like violence or not finishing work because of messing around during lesson time.

CecilyP · 01/02/2024 20:08

Happyhippy99 · 01/02/2024 17:58

YABVVU
Ok girls need to understand that periods are natural and nothing to be ashamed of. But for gods sake, this girl was asking VERY personal questions about her sister. I’m glad the school gave her a detention to teach her some respect for others and manners.
Do you expect all adult females to answer personal questions about their gynaecological history to anyone who asks ?

No. So why expect a child to answer such questions about her sister.

How is it a VERY personal question when just about EVERY female within a certain age range spanning about 40 years has periods?

It really isn’t like gynaecological history which can vary significantly between women and could indeed be very personal.

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