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Are mumsneters TERFs

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ChedderGorgeous · 18/01/2024 13:25

I started a thread on the new taskmaster line up here. This greatly angered a taskmaster fb group who screenshot the conversation and agreed all mumsnetters were TERFs. AIBU to suggest this isn't the general perception of others when you have mentioned mumsnet ? Ps. I still haven't heard of John Robins !

OP posts:
OneTC · 18/01/2024 16:28

It seems to me the most transphobic position is that of being trans, most everyone else seems to not give a fuck about them.

If you dress like a lady or a bloke I don't know why you can't just be proud of that.

All other forms of prejudice require me to believe something that isn't true about a group of people but the only way I can be non prejudiced about TWAW people is to believe something about them that isn't true

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 18/01/2024 16:28

I was saying that other posters were using sealioning tactics on you

Ah ok apologies

VampireWeekday · 18/01/2024 16:29

a222 · 18/01/2024 14:24

so are you saying trans women (men, crudely dressed as a woman) are women?

No? How did you get that from what I wrote?

Theinnocenteyeballsinthesky · 18/01/2024 16:29

Yes @lifeturnsonadime I’d like to know how a man changes his skeletal structure from the one on the left to the one on the right

Are mumsneters TERFs
fedupandstuck · 18/01/2024 16:29

Nothing will ever satisfy people who are determined to cast everyone who posts on FWR as transphobic. We are all collectively responsible for each post from every user that ever posts or posted there. Whether we agreed with it or not or whether it was deleted or not.

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 18/01/2024 16:30

Oh sorry, did you say who the post was by

You're unbelievable.
Not worth bothering with.
For everyone else, they at least are capable of reading the thread (I hope)

a222 · 18/01/2024 16:31

VampireWeekday · 18/01/2024 16:29

No? How did you get that from what I wrote?

Honestly, yes, MN is very TERF - heavy. Trans Exclusionary - yes, thinking that trans women aren't women is a popualr view on here

this^

apologies if i misinterpreted. x

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/01/2024 16:31

So your half remembered post where some random allegedly said "I have a problem with them all" is the extent of the "transphobia" you can articulate, @NoMoreFalafelsForYou?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/01/2024 16:31

I rest my case.

SpeedyDrama · 18/01/2024 16:32

a222 · 18/01/2024 16:31

Honestly, yes, MN is very TERF - heavy. Trans Exclusionary - yes, thinking that trans women aren't women is a popualr view on here

this^

apologies if i misinterpreted. x

Again, once anyone can explain how trans women are actually women outside of biology or personal beliefs, perhaps we can all move forward.

Begsthequestion · 18/01/2024 16:32

SpeedyDrama · 18/01/2024 16:26

So something else taken from women and twisted into something else to suit gender ideology? Shocker.

Feminists don't own the term, it just describes the kind of tactics that MRAs sometimes use to derail a discussion about feminism.

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 18/01/2024 16:32

Some random
😂

Scutterbug · 18/01/2024 16:33

edited to add a longer response

Begsthequestion · 18/01/2024 16:33

SpeedyDrama · 18/01/2024 16:32

Again, once anyone can explain how trans women are actually women outside of biology or personal beliefs, perhaps we can all move forward.

Case in point.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/01/2024 16:33

Nothing will ever satisfy people who are determined to cast everyone who posts on FWR as transphobic. We are all collectively responsible for each post from every user that ever posts or posted there. Whether we agreed with it or not or whether it was deleted or not.

Yes. It's quite amazing.

NalafromtheLionKing · 18/01/2024 16:34

SpeedyDrama · 18/01/2024 16:02

I’m a few years down the line of asking ‘what is being a woman outside of personal beliefs/biology’ and not once been given an answer….

That’s because you asked a ridiculous question.

What is an elephant beyond its belief that it is an elephant and its biology? If you took away its body and its mind, there is nothing left. Same applies to literally any creature. That doesn’t mean that another species eg a giraffe can believe it is an elephant and therefore become one.

@Blueeyedmale yes, there is already a word for a man whose genitals have been removed. It’s eunuch, not “female”.

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 18/01/2024 16:34

Nothing will ever satisfy people who are determined to cast everyone who posts on FWR as transphobic
I don't think anyone has said everyone on.FWR is transphobic?
Of course not all are

SpeedyDrama · 18/01/2024 16:34

Begsthequestion · 18/01/2024 16:33

Case in point.

Yes you have proven my point. Completely avoid the question you can’t answer and call ‘sealioning’ or any other name. Because you can’t answer.

lifeturnsonadime · 18/01/2024 16:35

Scutterbug · 18/01/2024 16:33

edited to add a longer response

Edited

Female is a word that means of the female sex.

Trans women are not female. You said you believe that they can become female.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/01/2024 16:36

Some random

Yes, some random. Unless you have a name and it's a FWR regular? Lots of people post on FWR, it's often in active threads. We don't know anything about this mysterious person who "has a problem with them all", but apparently that is "evidence" of something.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 18/01/2024 16:36

Yes you have proven my point. Completely avoid the question you can’t answer and call ‘sealioning’ or any other name. Because you can’t answer.

Happens all the time over on the board they don't look at. Like a spectacular own goal/s.

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 18/01/2024 16:38

Yes, some random. Unless you have a name and it's a FWR regular?

Stop gaslighting. You know exactly what you're doing and your faux innocence won't work on me.

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 18/01/2024 16:39

Oh and read the thread as you're clearly not or pretending you don't know.
Fuck knows

Begsthequestion · 18/01/2024 16:39

SpeedyDrama · 18/01/2024 16:34

Yes you have proven my point. Completely avoid the question you can’t answer and call ‘sealioning’ or any other name. Because you can’t answer.

The thing is, I don't have to spend time on here explaining anything to you. I answered the op with my opinion and I'm not interested in debating you. You might want to, but I don't.

That doesn't mean you're suddenly right to be transphobic. It just means I don't want to argue with you. That's all.

NoMoreFalafelsForYou · 18/01/2024 16:41

The thing is, I don't have to spend time on here explaining anything to you. I answered the op with my opinion and I'm not interested in debating you. You might want to, but I don't.

That doesn't mean you're suddenly right to be transphobic. It just means I don't want to argue with you. That's all.

Well said

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