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New partner and parenting

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Nchange12 · 16/01/2024 16:16

I have 3 teenagers, 18 (Y13), 17 (Y12) and 15 (Y11). I have been seeing someone for about 8 months, he also has 3 teens, 19 (second year of uni), 17 (Y13) and 15 (Y11).
He met my children last month, I told them about the relationship and they asked to meet him. I haven’t met his children, they know about me but don’t want to meet me yet, that’s fine.
The circumstances are different, their mother passed away 7 years ago, he hasn’t had a relationship since, I’m divorced and have a positive relationship with my ex, we don’t really have an arrangement for when the kids are where right now , leave it up to them.

Naturally we discuss the wonders of parenting teenagers. We could say our kids are very different though.
I’ve definitely dealt with more in terms of behaviour (vaping, school avoidance, general boundary pushing) where as he seems to have had very little of this.
Our parenting is remarkably different, I’d say he is stricter but his kids get more, while I’m more relaxed but my kids aren’t spoiled.
Examples

  • His kids were/are expected to get a job as soon as the turn 16 and pay digs accordingly (he says he puts this in savings), I don’t expect my children to work and if they wanted to I wouldn’t take money while they were still in school
  • He bought his older 2 cars for their 17th birthdays - I view this as being spoiled
  • If you walk into his house you wouldn’t think he had children (I’ve been while they’ve been out), everything they own gets kept in their rooms, down to costs and shoes, my house looks like I have teenagers!
  • His kids have a higher chore expectation, including doing all their own washing and cooking once or twice a week (for his middle child this is on top of working 8 hours on Sunday and 4 hours after school one night a week and studying for A-levels), I just expect mine to keep their room clean and help when asked
  • His kids have newer tech, he claims it is an incentive to work harder etc. He says he’d have a no tolerance policy on chat back or rule breaking but he hasn’t dealt with much in the last couple years, if he did all tech would be confiscated immediately and they wouldn’t be allowed out. I don’t take my kids tech regardless, I know I couldn’t be without my phone so why should they be
  • He wouldn’t allow a gap year after sixth form, if they chose to take it he will reduce the funding he offers while at uni, he would support one the year after uni though
  • He expects A and Bs (6-9s) exclusively in GCSEs and A-Levels and provides financial incentives. My kids have yet to achieve an A or B between them and I couldn’t care less - they did their best

I think you get the idea.

To the point, whenever my kids do something a bit silly (vape, get phone taken off them at school, don’t clean their room) and I have a little moan about it to him, he makes it clear he thinks I’m too relaxed, have low/no boundaries and my kids walk right over me. He then reminds me of his straight A, perfect Peter kids, who work and keep the house spotless and never dare to talk back.
All I can think is his kids must be either petrified of stepping out of line or miserable as they never catch a break.

AIBU to want to tell him that half of the reason his kids are like they are is because of their personality and not his stellar parenting and it’s luck of the draw? If I forced my kids to do everything his do they’d be bloody miserable!!
Or am I just a crappy parent who lets her kids run circles around her?

OP posts:
Iwishiwasasilentnight · 16/01/2024 16:18

You sound just as judgemental of his parenting as he is of yours.

W0tnow · 16/01/2024 16:19

There are lots of ways to be a good parent. Frankly you both sound perfectly fine! I’d bristle at my parenting being criticised though.

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:21

AIBU to want to tell him that half of the reason his kids are like they are is because of their personality and not his stellar parenting and it’s luck of the draw? If I forced my kids to do everything his do they’d be bloody miserable!!
Or am I just a crappy parent who lets her kids run circles around her?

i have no idea whether you’re a crappy parent or not. But you’re certainly a bit insecure about your style of parenting and not too keen on this man generally.

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:22

AIBU to want to tell him that half of the reason his kids are like they are is because of their personality and not his stellar parenting and it’s luck of the draw?

are you aware there’s a nature / nature debate ?

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:23

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 16/01/2024 16:23

Certainly there’s room for different strokes for different folks. I wouldn’t feel compatible with him from what you’ve said (but that’s me not you!)

His outlook seems quite materialistic, putting little value on time (time to relax, time to study etc) and too much on buying and owning things.

Alwaysalwayscold · 16/01/2024 16:25

I don't understand what you want to criticise him about? His kids clearly have a lot of respect and have been brought up well. Are you jealous or something?

You say he spoils them by buying them a car etc, but then say he's too strict because he makes them earn it by pulling their weight at home. These two things contradict each other.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 16/01/2024 16:25

Why force kids to work and pay digs, when he doesn’t need the money, and then spend large amounts on them? Why not let them be kids? My 15 yo would have a nervous breakdown on his schedule- she values having some down time and time to pursue the things she loves (music, and youth politics). She doesn’t want loads of stuff bought for her as she’s keen on being environmentally friendly.

Bibbetybobbity · 16/01/2024 16:26

You just sound really incompatible with each other. I’d move on- it’s going to end in years of grief otherwise.

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:27

school avoidance,

what has that meant in practice?

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:27

Bibbetybobbity · 16/01/2024 16:26

You just sound really incompatible with each other. I’d move on- it’s going to end in years of grief otherwise.

for the children too i suspect

CatamaranViper · 16/01/2024 16:27

"All I can think is his kids must be either petrified of stepping out of line or miserable as they never catch a break."

This is very sad that you think this just because he has more boundaries than you do.

It doesn't sound like you like him very much

Nchange12 · 16/01/2024 16:27

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 16/01/2024 16:23

Certainly there’s room for different strokes for different folks. I wouldn’t feel compatible with him from what you’ve said (but that’s me not you!)

His outlook seems quite materialistic, putting little value on time (time to relax, time to study etc) and too much on buying and owning things.

I wouldn’t say he is materialistic actually. I’d say I put more value on items than he does but he has more disposable income so perhaps can afford nicer versions.
I think he’s a high expectations high rewards parent. He expects his kids to be good at lots of things, where I don’t and is big on experiences.

OP posts:
Nchange12 · 16/01/2024 16:29

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:27

school avoidance,

what has that meant in practice?

My youngest has really struggled either going into school, though finding a reason has been hard (anxiety mainly).
This has resulted in an attendance of below 75% in the last two years.

OP posts:
Namenamchange · 16/01/2024 16:29

If he can afford it, why shouldn’t he buy his children cars? You sound jealous and resentful.

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:29

Namenamchange · 16/01/2024 16:29

If he can afford it, why shouldn’t he buy his children cars? You sound jealous and resentful.

This

you really do op

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:30

All I can think is his kids must be either petrified of stepping out of line or miserable as they never catch a break.

but it is your child who has an incredibly low school attendance rate due to anxiety 😐

Nchange12 · 16/01/2024 16:31

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 16/01/2024 16:25

Why force kids to work and pay digs, when he doesn’t need the money, and then spend large amounts on them? Why not let them be kids? My 15 yo would have a nervous breakdown on his schedule- she values having some down time and time to pursue the things she loves (music, and youth politics). She doesn’t want loads of stuff bought for her as she’s keen on being environmentally friendly.

I’ve said this, he claims they do have downtime. Though whenever I talk to him they seem busy (even if it’s busy as in our doing a sport or at their friends/boyfriends) they never seem to be just at home relaxing. My kids love to just play video games for a couple of hours!!

OP posts:
spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:32

I am not surprised that he’s chosen not to introduce you to his children. And i suspect he won’t be keen on much “blending” at any point between the children

spriots · 16/01/2024 16:32

My parents were quite like he is, by the sounds of it, and while I wouldn't say I loved it at all times as a teenager, if I am honest, it did set me up really well for adult life.

In particular, I think the chore expectations these days for teens are way too low. I think it's outrageous that yours don't even reliably keep their rooms clean when that's all you ask of them.

But I think the wider issue is that you have very very different parenting approaches - unless you can keep that entirely out of your relationship (seems difficult), it doesn't feel like you have a future together

MsAmber · 16/01/2024 16:32

I'm so proud that my 2 bought their own first cars with their savings from their part time jobs. They did so well.

If I'd had the money, yes, I would have bought them cars. I don't think that's spoiling kids, don't we all just do what we can?

GenXisthebest · 16/01/2024 16:34

There's no "one size fits all" in parenting. I'm closer to you in some of your examples and closer to him in others. We're all just doing our best aren't we? It sounds like both of you are happy with your own approach, which is the important thing.

YABU to call his kids perfect (in a mean way) but YANBU to refuse to let him criticise yours. You both need to agree to disagree, or not discuss.

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:34
  • *He expects A and Bs (6-9s) exclusively in GCSEs and A-Levels and provides financial incentives. My kids have yet to achieve an A or B between them and I couldn’t care less - they did their best*

Surely, surely, you see that not caring about results that really will impact their future is…. very very uncommon and perhaps not really in be their best interests. And i would be very surprised if they “did their best” given no parental involvement it would seem

GenXisthebest · 16/01/2024 16:35

I have three teens btw.

TheLongpigs · 16/01/2024 16:38

He sounds like a fantastic parent. And especially impressive given that he's had to deal with grief on top of this - theirs and his.

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