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New partner and parenting

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Nchange12 · 16/01/2024 16:16

I have 3 teenagers, 18 (Y13), 17 (Y12) and 15 (Y11). I have been seeing someone for about 8 months, he also has 3 teens, 19 (second year of uni), 17 (Y13) and 15 (Y11).
He met my children last month, I told them about the relationship and they asked to meet him. I haven’t met his children, they know about me but don’t want to meet me yet, that’s fine.
The circumstances are different, their mother passed away 7 years ago, he hasn’t had a relationship since, I’m divorced and have a positive relationship with my ex, we don’t really have an arrangement for when the kids are where right now , leave it up to them.

Naturally we discuss the wonders of parenting teenagers. We could say our kids are very different though.
I’ve definitely dealt with more in terms of behaviour (vaping, school avoidance, general boundary pushing) where as he seems to have had very little of this.
Our parenting is remarkably different, I’d say he is stricter but his kids get more, while I’m more relaxed but my kids aren’t spoiled.
Examples

  • His kids were/are expected to get a job as soon as the turn 16 and pay digs accordingly (he says he puts this in savings), I don’t expect my children to work and if they wanted to I wouldn’t take money while they were still in school
  • He bought his older 2 cars for their 17th birthdays - I view this as being spoiled
  • If you walk into his house you wouldn’t think he had children (I’ve been while they’ve been out), everything they own gets kept in their rooms, down to costs and shoes, my house looks like I have teenagers!
  • His kids have a higher chore expectation, including doing all their own washing and cooking once or twice a week (for his middle child this is on top of working 8 hours on Sunday and 4 hours after school one night a week and studying for A-levels), I just expect mine to keep their room clean and help when asked
  • His kids have newer tech, he claims it is an incentive to work harder etc. He says he’d have a no tolerance policy on chat back or rule breaking but he hasn’t dealt with much in the last couple years, if he did all tech would be confiscated immediately and they wouldn’t be allowed out. I don’t take my kids tech regardless, I know I couldn’t be without my phone so why should they be
  • He wouldn’t allow a gap year after sixth form, if they chose to take it he will reduce the funding he offers while at uni, he would support one the year after uni though
  • He expects A and Bs (6-9s) exclusively in GCSEs and A-Levels and provides financial incentives. My kids have yet to achieve an A or B between them and I couldn’t care less - they did their best

I think you get the idea.

To the point, whenever my kids do something a bit silly (vape, get phone taken off them at school, don’t clean their room) and I have a little moan about it to him, he makes it clear he thinks I’m too relaxed, have low/no boundaries and my kids walk right over me. He then reminds me of his straight A, perfect Peter kids, who work and keep the house spotless and never dare to talk back.
All I can think is his kids must be either petrified of stepping out of line or miserable as they never catch a break.

AIBU to want to tell him that half of the reason his kids are like they are is because of their personality and not his stellar parenting and it’s luck of the draw? If I forced my kids to do everything his do they’d be bloody miserable!!
Or am I just a crappy parent who lets her kids run circles around her?

OP posts:
Haydenn · 16/01/2024 16:39

There doesn’t seem to be any thing wrong with his parenting. His kids have been through an awful lot losing their mum and sound remarkably well adjusted.

EC22 · 16/01/2024 16:42

You sound a bit jealous and protesting too much about your own parenting style.

His kids sound like they’re better behaved/ getting better grades, so he’s definitely doing something right.

GlitterBall91 · 16/01/2024 16:42

Sounds like he’s doing a good job to be fair!

Ghentsummer · 16/01/2024 16:43

Are your kids genuinely not capable of getting a single B grade between the 3 of them? Or do you just have such low expectations and standards for them that they are falling short of their potential?

I think your DP's way of parenting, while not perfect as no parenting will be, seems to be achieving more for his children. Yours don't seem like they achieve much, even the very minimal chores you expect.

Singingasong · 16/01/2024 16:49

Do you need to know so much about each other’s parenting? I’m not sure. Maybe as you have six kids between you, that’s the most major part of your lives. You haven’t even met his children yet you know everything about everything.

Do you have time to just have a nice fun relationship between the two of you? I agree it sounds like you are very disapproving so I’m not sure that makes for a healthy relationship.

Cantdoitagain1 · 16/01/2024 16:49

His kids are the way they are due to his parenting. It sounds like he is doing a brilliant job.

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:51

Not a single B between 3 teens

and you don’t “care” because they tried their best

OP, they are teenagers and these exams have a huge influence over their future life choices available to them.

I would understand your stance if they were 5. But they’re not.

Alwaysalwayscold · 16/01/2024 16:51

Ghentsummer · 16/01/2024 16:43

Are your kids genuinely not capable of getting a single B grade between the 3 of them? Or do you just have such low expectations and standards for them that they are falling short of their potential?

I think your DP's way of parenting, while not perfect as no parenting will be, seems to be achieving more for his children. Yours don't seem like they achieve much, even the very minimal chores you expect.

Sounds as though OP doesn't care enough to push them to active it.

She sees them playing video games of en example of their life being great. All whilst criticising her partners kids for getting good results, having PT jobs and cooking meals.

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 16:52

i don’t think we’ve given the response the Op expected!!

WestendGrrls · 16/01/2024 16:54

I think it's rather callous of you to say his kids are petrified and miserable. You haven't even met them. If you aren't interested in his advice, perhaps don't moan about your own kids to him. Of course he is going to blame lack of discipline and expectation.

Beamur · 16/01/2024 16:54

You have very different parenting styles.
You know this already.
But I think you're wrong to assume it's all down to luck/personality or that his kids are in any way unhappy with their Dads style. You do seem to feel a bit judged by the comparison with your own kids and parenting though. That's not fair either.

Datgal · 16/01/2024 16:56

I wish my partner was like your partner. Three kids who don't know how to do things around the house. None of them do chores or expected to work for extra money. Parents aren't rolling in it either, so there'll be no cars bought here.
Just kids who grow up not knowing things. The value of money or doing things for themselves. Drives me nuts.

MissingSlimpossible · 16/01/2024 16:57

It sounds like his kids respect him. Sounds like he has done a great job.

Unwisebutnotillegal · 16/01/2024 17:01

I taught teenager for a very short time. What I learned was that the kids whose parents expected them to do chore and work tended to be more independent and engaged with the world. They also had less time for introspection and appeared happier although they did moan!! He is doing a good job of parenting amidst grief!

Vinrouge4 · 16/01/2024 17:04

He was left a widow with three young children and has had to find a way for things to work. Maybe keeping their rooms clean and having a more regimented life style worked for him. Credit to him that his children have turned out to be little trouble and respectful. Your slap dash attitude doesn’t seem to have produced the same results. You sound jealous to be honest. What is wrong with buying cars for his children when they are 17? He sounds a great father.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 16/01/2024 17:09

I too think he sounds a fantastic parent, esp as he is a single parent !

When you read so many posts on here, and read about other men who are parents, he is a gem and will be snapped up !

Pugdays · 16/01/2024 17:09

Your not really on the same page parenting
This probably won't work due to that.

Revelwithacause · 16/01/2024 17:10

How can you say his kids are spoiled? They work hard and behave themselves and are rewarded for it.

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 17:12

The OP won’t be back!

jhy · 16/01/2024 17:13

In general men are stricter so given that he's been a single dad for quite a while, it's not surprising. It would be hard to change your parenting skills now, they are too old and won't listen anyway, cause more arguements and more misery for everyone.
Everyone parents in different ways, there's no right or wrong. But it's not nice to criticise either way.

spriots · 16/01/2024 17:13

Revelwithacause · 16/01/2024 17:10

How can you say his kids are spoiled? They work hard and behave themselves and are rewarded for it.

Yeah that struck me too - being spoiled is more than about money spent on you. His teens sound like they contribute to the household, share the load, cook meals, do laundry etc, it's the OP's teens who sound spoiled to me

Bananabreadandstrawberries · 16/01/2024 17:13

Sorry, he sounds like he’s doing a great job as a parent (and in my view a better parent). I think his children are going to go a lot further in life.

Sunnydays0101 · 16/01/2024 17:15
  • Good that he’s encouraging a work ethic and paying their way. It balances out being given a car and having latest tech.
  • If he can afford to buy his kids cars, nothing wrong with that. They are studying hard, have part-time jobs, etc. This isn’t spoiling.
  • My house probably looks a little like this. Everything put away. All our coats and shoes are in a cupboard. Personal belongings in our room. Books on bookshelves. School books on their desks.
  • Having set chores encourages a good work ethic and will stand to them in college, when they are sharing houses/flats/living with a partner, etc.
  • Don't know if new tech encourages teens to work harder but their Dad can afford it and they work hard, so what’s the harm.
  • Zero tolerance for back chat - good for him, if his methods work. He’s being firm, not cruel.
  • Lots of kids don’t take gap years.
  • He has high expectations but they wouldn’t get those grades if they weren’t capable. Might some of your children get higher grades if they were encouraged ?

You could say his children have a privileged lifestyle but they have part-time jobs, pay towards their upkeep, help with the running of their home, work hard at school - in all probability, they are well rounded, will all go to Uni and have successful careers.

spearthatbroc · 16/01/2024 17:15

See how you feel in ten years time OP when your three teens “with not a B between them” and one stricken with anxiety and missing 25% of the school year are fairing in life and how happy and fulfilled they are… compared with his (but i suspect you and he won’t have been in each others lives for a decade at that point anyway)

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 16/01/2024 17:15

He sounds very much like the way I was brought up.

His kids do things because that's the way it has always been for them. I knew from a young age, were I to live at home and be working full time, I'd have to contribute to the household. That was an expectation that I knew for years. Unless genuinely ill, I would never not go to school, bunking off was incompressible as was refusing to go. It would not have been tolerated.

You have set expectations very differently so of course your kids would rebel if you asked them to act to the same level as his kids.

My parents bought me a car at 17 as we lived rurally. It was an old banger but they knew as a teen I could not get about without it. They do what he asks, these are their rewards.