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Ex pays for his new kids to go private school, but not ours?

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1Rebecca · 11/01/2024 15:09

My ex and I have a 13 year old child together, who lives in the UK with me. My ex lives in France with his wife and 2 children (10 and 9), where our child spends time, as we have a split custody arrangement based on our child’s school holidays. He pays me around £400 a month (our own arrangement) in child support, but I don’t know what earns exactly - his wife stays home.

I explained all of the above for context. I found out this summer when my child stayed over there, that his two other children would start going to private school (they do now) - my child was naturally really upset. They told me that they spoke to their father, who told them that he couldn’t afford to send them to private school in the UK as it’s too expensive even if he split the cost with me.

Upon hearing this, I asked for an explanation as to why he thought this was fair, and why he isn’t obligated to pay for ours. He told me that he feels as though he isn’t obligated to do that, as he only started paying for their private education this school year as the older other child will now be in secondary education (I called it that so it’s understandable for us UK folks), and it is affordable (I can’t verify as I don’t know where they study) there. I then asked why does the younger child need to go to private school now in that case, which he said was because his wife asked for them to have the same treatment and is supposedly using her savings to help pay, as it was her will for the younger one to go earlier. I then asked him why he didn’t extend that offer to our child when they started secondary, which he said he didn’t because no one asked and it’s too expensive in the UK. I asked him to take our child with him in France during the school year and that I’d help pay for private schooling, but he refuses to as his wife doesn’t our child there for the entire school year. I told him that he’s being unfair, but he keeps on saying that it’s not comparable as the kids live in different countries, with different parent, and thus different circumstances, and I’m apparently in the wrong for “comparing children.”

I initially let it go, but our child is upset over this and I’m getting angrier thinking about this over time, as I feel as I’m at a loss. I can’t afford to send my son to private school here, nor do I feel safe sending him to a private boarding school in France. I’ve asked him to pay more child support, but my ex thinks it’s me being petty/vengeful as he thinks he already pays a lot, but I think he should do more as he does he seems to do a lot for his other kids. AIBU?

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SlippyDip · 11/01/2024 15:27

You are being ridiculous. You are comparing children. You were fine with your sons school until you knew about the private school over there. And to think you're now trying to ship your child off to France to get his education paid for when all was fine before you knew about it. Kindly, get a grip and teach your child not to compare lives with others.

GLOHRIE1 · 11/01/2024 15:30

I don't think you are being unreasonable, but you just tell your son to be happy about the school he is attending currently because obviously you don't have a money tree to pluck money. And your ex is your ex; manage the money he gives and hope for the better.

Vinrouge4 · 11/01/2024 15:33

You are being ridiculous. Private Schooling in France is totally different. It costs very little - especially if it is a Catholic private school which most of them are. It also costs less for the second child to go there. I think you should get on with your life here and stop comparing what your ex is doing with his life. Boarding School in France is also not like here. It is not considered as elite and is often for children with issues and most french people would not want it for their children. Maybe you should teach your son to appreciate what he does have and not what he doesn't.

randomchap · 11/01/2024 15:33

Would the cms make him pay more or less than the £400 you agreed?

EllaPaella · 11/01/2024 15:33

I think if he can afford to send two of his children to private school he can very well afford to pay you more than £400 a month in maintenance.
I don't agree you necessarily need to be sending your child to private school but maybe it is time to get your child maintenance agreed more formally.

TopicalNameChange · 11/01/2024 15:33

I can see your ex's point. Is private school in France at all comparable in cost?

Although if it's his wife's savings paying for it it's a moot point anyway

Sodndashitall · 11/01/2024 15:34

Sorry this is madness.
Why on earth would you want your poor DS be going to school in France all of a sudden. Does he speak fluent French? 13 is a tricky age and he'd lose all.his friends.
So private school in France is a totally different ball game to here and also different costs. Plus it sounds like his new wife is funding this. So YABU asking for your son to be treated the same given she's paying for it. Do you ask that their clothes cost the same? Or their presents are exactly the same value ? Or their after school clubs the same?
Are you unhappy with your DS school? Why do you want to change unless there's a problem? Is he academic enough to get into the elite privates? Does he realise that the non academic ones are not always good for all.kids?
The real issue is it's all been handled very badly with your poor DS. This could have been a non issue but now it's blown up.
I suggest another sit down with DS to explain amongst other things that private school may not be the best solution for him!

SisterMichaelsHabit · 11/01/2024 15:34

I think you're conflating too many things and need to unpick why this matters. Is your child happy and making expected progress in their current school? Why would you want to move them to another school, overseas, in a foreign language, away from their friends and you just to give them the "designer label" of a private school? Private schools in other countries are very different (and priced differently) to those in the UK.
Do your child's wishes or best interests even slightly fall on your radar here?

Sodndashitall · 11/01/2024 15:34

EllaPaella · 11/01/2024 15:33

I think if he can afford to send two of his children to private school he can very well afford to pay you more than £400 a month in maintenance.
I don't agree you necessarily need to be sending your child to private school but maybe it is time to get your child maintenance agreed more formally.

His new wife is paying ! Not him

SisterMichaelsHabit · 11/01/2024 15:35

@Sodndashitall X post! 😅

BIossomtoes · 11/01/2024 15:36

I think if he can afford to send two of his children to private school he can very well afford to pay you more than £400 a month in maintenance

Even though the other children’s mother is paying at least half and you have no idea what the fees are?

PatriciaHolm · 11/01/2024 15:36

Private schooling in france is a completely different set up to here.

Assuming they are going to a sous-contract school, which is the majority of private schooling in france, it's costing less than 1000 euros a year. Not comparable in the least with a UK private school.

x2boys · 11/01/2024 15:37

How comparable are French s
Private school prices and uk?
And its not just him paying if his wife is using her savings

BoohooWoohoo · 11/01/2024 15:38

You need to find out how much private schooling in France costs before you feel hard done by. If it’s £400 or less per month then you definitely need to let it go. You are assuming that their school costs as much as Uk school £10k+ and that’s not a given.

LolaSmiles · 11/01/2024 15:40

You're confusing too many issues.

At the end of the day the children have different sets of parents.

He isn't obliged to find private education for your shared child just because the mother of his other children is in a position to fund their children going.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 11/01/2024 15:40

Is the 2 children in France his?

Ghentsummer · 11/01/2024 15:41

If his children in France aren't going to an international school then private school fees could be just a few thousand a year for the pair of them. It can be much cheaper in France than the UK.

As to your idea to send your son to live with them. Would he want to uproot his life and leave his friends? Does he speak and write fluent French? Because if not you would be seriously screwing him over given he would be sitting exams in a couple of years.

Wheresthefibre · 11/01/2024 15:41

Why does your child feel that they need private school?

I get asking questions, I get wondering why? But really upset they aren’t getting to go private? In this country, even though it’s very different?

and both you and your child would be happy to send your child to France to live most of the year to make equal?

Can you pay half private school fees here?

Wheresthefibre · 11/01/2024 15:43

And if his wife is paying for the younger one, it’s definitely not unfair.

They have different mothers. His wife isn’t obliged to only provide her children with things that your and her husbands children can also have. Especially, when they live in another country

lunarleap · 11/01/2024 15:45

You're being utterly ridiculous

GuinnessBird · 11/01/2024 15:46

Are you on glue?

PieAndLattes · 11/01/2024 15:48

Private school fees in France are generally about £800 a year. They have an agreement with gvt who fund most of it (to the cost of going to a state school) and then parents ‘top up’ with the extra 10-20% or so. I doubt he’s paying the £40k it would cost to send two kids to private school here.

sonjadog · 11/01/2024 15:48

I think you ex has good points. Do you realise that private school is not the same in France and the UK? Why are you so desperate for your child to go to this school that you would want to send him to France for most of the year? Does he even speak French?

1Rebecca · 11/01/2024 15:49

Vinrouge4 · 11/01/2024 15:33

You are being ridiculous. Private Schooling in France is totally different. It costs very little - especially if it is a Catholic private school which most of them are. It also costs less for the second child to go there. I think you should get on with your life here and stop comparing what your ex is doing with his life. Boarding School in France is also not like here. It is not considered as elite and is often for children with issues and most french people would not want it for their children. Maybe you should teach your son to appreciate what he does have and not what he doesn't.

I see what you and many people are saying, but I’m sure that they go to one of the better ones in France which cost £5-10k a year. And yes, I know it’s at least £5k because he told me that paying £5-10k a year is not comparable to paying that much per term here. Our child does speak French fluently, as they speak it fine with his siblings and cousins in France. For clarification, the wife only helps pay for the youngest one, because my ex didn’t want them to go earlier, he’ll pay fully when the child reaches secondary education. Which is true, but I can afford to help him pay more than half even if my child studies in France with his siblings - why is my solution bad?

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Doppelgangers · 11/01/2024 15:49

YANBU and you're not comparing like for like situations. The two kids he has in France attending private school will be a drop in the ocean cost wise compared to your child attending a private school in the UK. Even if he was paying for it himself which he isn't as the cost is shared with his wife it won't be anything near termly fees for a school in the UK.

Your child doesn't need a private school education and you sound pretty grabby expecting him to pay for one.