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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To ask why the hate for boys?

807 replies

Numberttwotwo · 06/01/2024 07:14

I know this has probably been discussed before. But I seem to come across something every day that makes me feel less worthy, someone to pity and just a bit shit.
I have 2 boys. They are kind, gentle, loving and the best of friends.
So why are my friends (really ‘good’ very longstanding friends) and strangers making comments that make me feel like this. Granted they’re comments about ‘boys’ and not MY boys.
I’ve been told (by a friend with one of each) that mums of boys won’t matter when they’re married and sons will be closer to the in laws.
I was told by a friend’s husband they HAD to find out the sex at 20 weeks because they’d have been soooo disappointed if it was a boy. (In front of my boys)
I was told yesterday (also in front of them) that my friend had been put off EVER having a boy by the behaviour of her nephew.
And this is not including all mentions of trying for a girl whenever we talk about possibly having a third.
I wish I had better ways of responding in the moment but for some reason I always bite my tongue.

YABU - boys are the worst and I pity anyone with more than one.
YANBU - the world should just parent their children and stop with the stupid comments based on nothing more than genitals

Rant over.

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VanityDiesHard · 07/01/2024 11:45

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mottytotty · 07/01/2024 11:53

VanityDiesHard · 07/01/2024 00:26

97% of killers may be men. The way people on this site go on, you would think that 97% of men were killers.

You think it’s ‘pathetic’ for women to be scared of a group who are responsible for 97% of killings?

At what point would you think it becomes acceptable for women to fear men?

VWCVVCWV · 07/01/2024 11:56

mottytotty · 07/01/2024 11:53

You think it’s ‘pathetic’ for women to be scared of a group who are responsible for 97% of killings?

At what point would you think it becomes acceptable for women to fear men?

It's half the population

mottytotty · 07/01/2024 12:01

VWCVVCWV · 07/01/2024 11:56

It's half the population

Yes, and therefore even more reason for women to fear men. They’re everywhere and most hate women.

5128gap · 07/01/2024 12:03

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I don't believe that. And I don't think a certain co hort of men do either. If they did I doubt they'd feel the need to be on here all of a flutter about the erosion of MR and trying to discredit women as (somewhat bizarrely) simultaneously 'woke' and out of touch dinosaurs.

VWCVVCWV · 07/01/2024 12:04

mottytotty · 07/01/2024 12:01

Yes, and therefore even more reason for women to fear men. They’re everywhere and most hate women.

NO! Most don't hate women.

VanityDiesHard · 07/01/2024 12:06

mottytotty · 07/01/2024 12:01

Yes, and therefore even more reason for women to fear men. They’re everywhere and most hate women.

You should seek therapy for your paranoia. I'm serious, it's no way to live life.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 07/01/2024 12:07

going on and on about cis women being the most oppressed in society

Going on about who being the most oppressed in society? Did you mean 'women'?

VanityDiesHard · 07/01/2024 12:07

5128gap · 07/01/2024 12:03

I don't believe that. And I don't think a certain co hort of men do either. If they did I doubt they'd feel the need to be on here all of a flutter about the erosion of MR and trying to discredit women as (somewhat bizarrely) simultaneously 'woke' and out of touch dinosaurs.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

VanityDiesHard · 07/01/2024 12:08

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 07/01/2024 12:07

going on and on about cis women being the most oppressed in society

Going on about who being the most oppressed in society? Did you mean 'women'?

I meant cis women! So yes, women.

CurlewKate · 07/01/2024 12:09

Yes, I love the idea of being both woke and a dinosaur!

More seriously- the dismissal of 2nd wavers is actually quite alarming when you realise how quickly hard won rights can be lost. We forget our history at our peril.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 07/01/2024 12:12

I meant cis women! So yes, women

So if by 'cis women' you mean 'women',why the need to add 'cis'?

VanityDiesHard · 07/01/2024 12:14

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 07/01/2024 12:12

I meant cis women! So yes, women

So if by 'cis women' you mean 'women',why the need to add 'cis'?

Because, unlike most people on this site, I believe that trans women are also women. I'm not going to get into a big argument about it, as that stuff needs to keep to the feminism boards IMO.

mottytotty · 07/01/2024 12:17

VanityDiesHard · 07/01/2024 12:14

Because, unlike most people on this site, I believe that trans women are also women. I'm not going to get into a big argument about it, as that stuff needs to keep to the feminism boards IMO.

Transwomen are not women, they are transwomen. There is no such such as cis women.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 07/01/2024 12:17

You are entitled to your beliefs, of course. However, quite a lot of women find 'cis' offensive.

mottytotty · 07/01/2024 12:17

VanityDiesHard · 07/01/2024 12:14

Because, unlike most people on this site, I believe that trans women are also women. I'm not going to get into a big argument about it, as that stuff needs to keep to the feminism boards IMO.

So why did you bring it up?

mottytotty · 07/01/2024 12:18

VWCVVCWV · 07/01/2024 12:04

NO! Most don't hate women.

Yes, you would be surprised by just how much men hate women.

VanityDiesHard · 07/01/2024 12:20

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 07/01/2024 12:17

You are entitled to your beliefs, of course. However, quite a lot of women find 'cis' offensive.

I don't care. It is a scientific term, not a slur. I find it offensive how much ignorance and hatred there is on this site.

VanityDiesHard · 07/01/2024 12:20

mottytotty · 07/01/2024 12:17

Transwomen are not women, they are transwomen. There is no such such as cis women.

Yes, there is. I am one.

CurlewKate · 07/01/2024 12:28

Do people on here really believe that all is well with masculinity in our society? No issues at all? Happy with the level of male
violence? With men's mental health? With the number of families without a father figure?

mottytotty · 07/01/2024 12:28

VanityDiesHard · 07/01/2024 12:20

Yes, there is. I am one.

Bully for you.

VWCVVCWV · 07/01/2024 12:30

mottytotty · 07/01/2024 12:18

Yes, you would be surprised by just how much men hate women.

I wouldn't be surprised because it's just not true.

mottytotty · 07/01/2024 12:33

VWCVVCWV · 07/01/2024 12:30

I wouldn't be surprised because it's just not true.

When women were asked what’s their biggest fear, 53.7%, said sexual assaults,

Which sex are responsible for sexual assault? Men

Ergo, women are scared of men.

VWCVVCWV · 07/01/2024 12:34

CurlewKate · 07/01/2024 12:28

Do people on here really believe that all is well with masculinity in our society? No issues at all? Happy with the level of male
violence? With men's mental health? With the number of families without a father figure?

There is understanding there is a problem but also realising its not all of them.

It's boring when women attack other women on here because they know its not all men and in my case not many. The Not My Nigel comment is boring too. Its not an argument. Its just thrown about to try and make other women look stupid.

It's not clever.

jiggyjiggyjig · 07/01/2024 12:35

TheJanuaryPinks · 06/01/2024 07:27

YABU. This isn’t about you, or your boys. Stop trying to make it a personal attack.

Some people just don’t want boys. I didn’t. I thank my lucky stars everyday I got two girls.

But even you can surely see how outrageously rude it is to say 'ugh I wouldn't ever want a boy' in front of small boys. It's just ghastly behaviour.