Ugh men are gross

[crochetmonkey74]

I say this as someone who would like to meet someone , but currently rethinking it...
I'm in a pub waiting for a friend for our annual nye lunch. A nice pub. In walk 3 couples. Roughly mid to late forties, all look nice and well dressed. Bit of chat and the women of the couples say goodbye and go off for a bit of shopping and will be back in an hour. Kisses all round, bye etc
Now the women are gone, I can hear everything the blokes are saying (while I'm pretending to read my book and go on mumsnet)
Topics they have covered so far (and I wish I was making this up)
1.One of them hasn't had a poo for a few days , went to toilet came back and showed photos of what he's done in the pub toilet. It was massive apparently and they all looked at it.

1. They were all at a party for Christmas eve and a different friends daughter is definitely 'smashable' even though she is only 17
2. Sienna Miller is fit and knows it so you could do what you want to her. They then were googling porn pictures of her.
3. The band 10cc is a joke on the average amount of semen a man produces but the one regularly covers his wife back in it and there's loads more than that.
4. The barmaid is too fat to shag unless you're desperate

These are normal looking attractive men who anyone would think look well dressed, seem like 'good' men etc but they acted totally different when their partners were here before they went shopping. . I can sit here and listen as I am fat and middle aged so invisible to them. I'm not a prude, but the switch was Shocking. Those women would probably never think their partners spoke like that.

I don't mean to distrust him or accuse him of lying but I can imagine these pub guys saying the same and feigning innocence to their wives if questioned

Funny I just read your OP and it does sound a bit embellished if I'm totally honest.

So much so I just asked my DH and his friends who are round for a few drinks for new years eve if they knew who Sienna Miller was, none of them knew without googling her first 🙄

Most of your comments are something some one would say to get the backing from MN in a female perspective. Not sure how many guys know how old their friends daughters are never mind their partners birthdays 😂

orchiddottyback · Today 22:38 are you serious?

I honestly cannot think of one man I know who is "mid to late forties" who wouldn't know who Sienna Miller is.
Back in the day I'd say she was a sex symbol and not just because of her association with Jude Law or the fact she was/is blonde. Women named their daughters after her ffs.

🤣🤣🤣
What a weird thing to be accused of.
Sadly not embellished at all.

I just asked DH (43) who Sienna Miller was and he had no clue. I didn’t either to be honest…we’ve had to Google.

Also they definitely know their friends daughters age . Remember ? She's smashable even though she's only 17.

Woman must be lying then as random unconnected man doesn't know who a famous person is

I didn’t say you were lying. I was just commenting to the person who commented saying she didn’t know a man mid forties who didn’t know who Sienna Miller was.

How long did this conversation go on for?
It must have been quite a while for all that to be discussed, along with the picture viewing.

About 15 to 20 mins maybe. I was waiting for my friend and had got there a bit early.

My DH, mid 40s, knows the name (wasn't she married to whatshisface that was recently in Captain Marvel?) but said he'd have to Google her to remember what she looked like. Just for a second one who isn't sure.

@Fannyfiggs hahaha brilliant 🤣🤣🤣

Do you not believe her ?

I think you're hugely generalising OP!

Yes there are some, maybe many, men that do this but millions who don't. I would say income and status has nothing to do with it although background does.

My DH is not perfect in any way, but he is 100% not one of those guys, and I don't know any man who is.

And there's us women that sit together discussing politics and poetry as soon as we are alone
People chat crap, it's normal (excluding the 17yr old part)

Not surprised you were shocked that they turned from nice husbands into Neanderthals. I would have been too. But I suppose talking in a gross way amongst themselves doesn’t actually do any harm unless someone else is eavesdropping. I think I have jokingly said inappropriate things to friends that I didn’t really mean to join in / make them laugh etc.

Sexually violent things about a friends child?

The comment about Sienna Milker being good looking and she knows it so they can do what they want to her is disgusting. It's like they want to punish her for looking like she does.

If they talk about it in a gross way amongst themselves it sort of makes it acceptable though doesn’t it?

Exactly and the "you can do whatever you wnat" like with normal women they have to hold back

I'm really hoping this is sarcasm

An ex boyfriend many years ago told me you don't know what men are like when women aren't around . I guess this is what he was talking about .

well I didn’t read this before I posted. What I meant is that they’re validating each others comments- like they’re ok and just a bit of fun.

i don’t think they’re acceptable. The poo one doesn’t offend me. The daughter, the cum on wife’s back and sienna miller are gross though.

what I meant is that if people banter about these things it makes it seem acceptable.

And if people think that’s acceptable it’s going to inform the way they act. That is all.

Ah yes I see what you mean!

It's gross and lots do it. But there are many who don't do it. I've overheard loads of conversations between men who don't realise I'm nearby, men I've known and strangers, and many talk about sport, work, geeky stuff, the world. They don't have the locker room thing.