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To think spending £400 on a 4 year old at Christmas is too much?

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user6776 · 04/12/2023 20:55

Not a bragging post before I begin and I appreciate we are lucky to have the money to spend.

We've already bought DS an iPad which cost £180. This was the "main" present and he will get his use out of it, as he's ASD and it helps to regulate him so I didn't mind forking out for that.

Anyway, I was thinking of then setting a remaining budget of £100 for some other bits that he can open - toys, clothes etc. DH was shocked and thought I was being "tight" and suggested we increase the budget to at least £200. He's of the opinion that whatever we see that we think DS might like, that we should buy it and not really have a budget. I told him that's ridiculous and there's no need to buy so much for such a small child!

AIBU to think this is too much?

OP posts:
00100001 · 06/12/2023 10:27

Blankscreen · 06/12/2023 09:47

I'm surprised at how little some people spend.

When children are little is is easier to spend less but as they grow up the things they want become more and more expensive so it is hard to stick to a lower amount.

For example DS is 13 and has asked for anew golf bag - £170, a new golf club £60 and some other golf thing which is £70. So that's £300 on just 3 presents.

Then he needs stocking presents and other bits.

I reckon it will be £450.

With inflation the cost of presents has massively gone up. If you spend £150 what can you actually buy them?

Bit there's nothing compelling you to buy him the new golf bag, club and the other golf thing is there?

You could have just bought one of those....

For ~£150 for a 13yo you could buy them;

Mini drone £40
Wireless headphones £30-40
Card game like exploding kittens £10-15
Air hammock £10
Chocolate £5
Multi tool/ swiss army knife/ swiss army card £10
Hoodie £15-25
Rubik's cube or similar £10

Or ...

Computer game £50
Power bank £30
Vans £50
Various sweets and treats £20

All perfectly acceptable gifts for a 13yo lad, and plenty to show for it 🤷‍♀️

TheGoogleMum · 06/12/2023 10:30

Your budget of 280 (since the ipad was 180) is more than I would spend on a 4 yr old

Sugarfree23 · 06/12/2023 11:06

00100001 · 06/12/2023 10:27

Bit there's nothing compelling you to buy him the new golf bag, club and the other golf thing is there?

You could have just bought one of those....

For ~£150 for a 13yo you could buy them;

Mini drone £40
Wireless headphones £30-40
Card game like exploding kittens £10-15
Air hammock £10
Chocolate £5
Multi tool/ swiss army knife/ swiss army card £10
Hoodie £15-25
Rubik's cube or similar £10

Or ...

Computer game £50
Power bank £30
Vans £50
Various sweets and treats £20

All perfectly acceptable gifts for a 13yo lad, and plenty to show for it 🤷‍♀️

Why buy a bundle of other stuff which may become cupboard clutter if what the kid really wants a new golf bag?

Fightarealfire · 06/12/2023 11:06

00100001 · 06/12/2023 10:27

Bit there's nothing compelling you to buy him the new golf bag, club and the other golf thing is there?

You could have just bought one of those....

For ~£150 for a 13yo you could buy them;

Mini drone £40
Wireless headphones £30-40
Card game like exploding kittens £10-15
Air hammock £10
Chocolate £5
Multi tool/ swiss army knife/ swiss army card £10
Hoodie £15-25
Rubik's cube or similar £10

Or ...

Computer game £50
Power bank £30
Vans £50
Various sweets and treats £20

All perfectly acceptable gifts for a 13yo lad, and plenty to show for it 🤷‍♀️

But what’s the point of spending a load of money on stuff they don’t really want or need? I’d rather spend more but have it be stuff that will last and be used loads.

00100001 · 06/12/2023 11:23

Sugarfree23 · 06/12/2023 11:06

Why buy a bundle of other stuff which may become cupboard clutter if what the kid really wants a new golf bag?

this was in response to "what does £150 even get you these days?" as if you couldn't get a good amount of decent presents for that much - when you can

And also - the golf thing, again, I was just saying there's nothing mandating that the PP absolutely had to buy all three things...

00100001 · 06/12/2023 11:24

Fightarealfire · 06/12/2023 11:06

But what’s the point of spending a load of money on stuff they don’t really want or need? I’d rather spend more but have it be stuff that will last and be used loads.

Again.... the lists were just examples in response to "what does £150 even get you these days?" as if you couldn't get a good amount of decent presents for that much - when you can.

And also - the golf thing, again, I was just saying there's nothing mandating that the PP absolutely had to buy all three things...

Blankscreen · 06/12/2023 11:49

We obviously don't have to buy all 3 golf things but it is his hobby and they will be used loads.

I also don't think a £15-£25 hoodie or a pair of Vans are Christmas presents. Surely they are just basic clothing items that they need?

Anyway each to their own, we all have different budgets and different ideas as to what is appropriate and our children don't know any different.

Littlecatonthefence · 06/12/2023 11:59

00100001 · 05/12/2023 23:14

Why do you not give them anything during the year? I don't really understand the need to keep it all until Christmas and then go overboard?

Mainly because i want to but also they dont need it, xmas toys covers them throughout the year apart from books we get them books and clothes throughout the year.

Littlecatonthefence · 06/12/2023 12:01

Livinginanotherworld · 06/12/2023 00:15

A three year old doesn’t need that many toys in one go, it’s very overwhelming for them. The less toys they have the more play value they get out of them if they are chosen carefully.

Maybe pop a couple of those in the salvation army collection for kids with no toys.
and sorry IPads for that age group is just ridiculous and very harmful to developing brains.

You literally have just assumed we dont do any charity Christmas collections.

SJM1988 · 06/12/2023 12:05

We do the 5 present rule thing for Christmas - something you need, something you want, something to read, something to wear and something extra special. It helps to highlight not just getting presents for the sake of it and that would go to waste.

Some years we spend alot but others we spend not so much. Sometimes it comes down to what they 'need/want' that year. This year we are replacing my eldest's kindle for a newer version so that is £180 but last year he got a skateboard for under £20. My youngest tends to end up with re-gifted items. This year her main present is a new doll but I am giving her all the dolls clothes I had as a child.

00100001 · 06/12/2023 12:11

Littlecatonthefence · 06/12/2023 11:59

Mainly because i want to but also they dont need it, xmas toys covers them throughout the year apart from books we get them books and clothes throughout the year.

don't they get anything for their birthday?

or any gifts/trinkets/toys at all from holidays/days out/summer fetes/fairgrounds etc?

00100001 · 06/12/2023 12:14

Blankscreen · 06/12/2023 11:49

We obviously don't have to buy all 3 golf things but it is his hobby and they will be used loads.

I also don't think a £15-£25 hoodie or a pair of Vans are Christmas presents. Surely they are just basic clothing items that they need?

Anyway each to their own, we all have different budgets and different ideas as to what is appropriate and our children don't know any different.

Loads of people give clothes as presents? Some people even give pyjamas.

Plus things like nice/branded items like a pair of Vans would be an acceptable gift too? Sure, not school shoes or whatever.... but a nicer/coveted pair of football boots / hoodrich hoodie ? That's absolutely fine as a gift.

Littlecatonthefence · 06/12/2023 12:14

00100001 · 06/12/2023 12:11

don't they get anything for their birthday?

or any gifts/trinkets/toys at all from holidays/days out/summer fetes/fairgrounds etc?

So yes for their birthdays it will maybe be overall a cost of about £60-£100, could be some lip glosses, jammies, a gymnastics leo or somethings like that.

When we go on holiday there gran and papas will give them some money so they would use that to buy something

00100001 · 06/12/2023 12:16

Littlecatonthefence · 06/12/2023 12:14

So yes for their birthdays it will maybe be overall a cost of about £60-£100, could be some lip glosses, jammies, a gymnastics leo or somethings like that.

When we go on holiday there gran and papas will give them some money so they would use that to buy something

oh...so they do receive stuff throughout the year then....

ginandtonicwithlimes · 06/12/2023 12:36

Littlecatonthefence · 05/12/2023 14:47

Well.

We have 3 DCs and it varies what we spend each year but at christmas we spoil with what we can affor and never get into debt, we save all year round.

There is no toys throughout the year only essential purchases like clothes etc, Birthdays we maybe spend around £60 on them so christmas we go all out because we want to.

But my 3.5 year old is currently sitting at £460 and thats with some FREE/Hand me down things.

Stuff is expensive, and this is her list for anyone thats interested, and no its not a brag its giving full context to my statement.

DISNEY MERMAID £26.99
MISSY KISSY DOLL £29.99
EASEL £29.99
MAGIC MIXES GENIE £45
MEGAPHONE £4.99
CUTIE CUTS £15
DOLLS PRAM £27.50
KITCHEN £79
DOGGITO £7
SQUIHMALLOW £35
KITCHEN £80
BIKE FREE
LITTLE LIVE MY PUPPY £35
Magic MIXES couldren £18.00
DOLLS HOUSE FREE
DOLLS HOUSE PEOPLE £11
BUCKAROO £16

Being honest I think at least half of that won't be played with at all. Just words of experience.

Littlecatonthefence · 06/12/2023 12:38

00100001 · 06/12/2023 12:16

oh...so they do receive stuff throughout the year then....

LOOK AT WHAT I POSTED

There is no toys throughout the year only essential purchases like clothes etc, Birthdays we maybe spend around £60 on them so christmas we go all out because we want to

Littlecatonthefence · 06/12/2023 12:39

ginandtonicwithlimes · 06/12/2023 12:36

Being honest I think at least half of that won't be played with at all. Just words of experience.

3 Girls with 11 years of parenting experience and Christmases, im well versed thankyou.

Pipistrellus · 06/12/2023 12:45

Littlecatonthefence · 06/12/2023 12:39

3 Girls with 11 years of parenting experience and Christmases, im well versed thankyou.

Is all the stuff from last Christmas too young and passed on/sold now? Does she not get plenty of hand me downs from the two older girls? Just struggling to understand if this is normal for Christmas x3 children what happens to it all?

ginandtonicwithlimes · 06/12/2023 12:47

Littlecatonthefence · 06/12/2023 12:39

3 Girls with 11 years of parenting experience and Christmases, im well versed thankyou.

Don't have you have hand me downs? My son will get the Duplo my daughter was given. He has the dolls she was given and plays with a pram that I bought for her. Each to their own but at three she won't be bothered yet. Is there big age gaps?

elrider · 06/12/2023 12:51

That's a huge amount to me, and I've never spent that much on either child. If I was giving a big thing like an iPad, then I'd give it with a stocking and that would be it, on the basis that (like yours) they get other toys and things from family anyway so it's not like they are sitting in an empty house devoid of all toys. They just get overwhelmed with lots to open and most of it gets played with a few times then never again - I hate the waste so I try to very carefully pick things that will last and be loved, and environmentally, I look to buy second hand where possible. Spending on all sorts of toys they "might like" (and that also other people might have got them) is just a waste and will quickly clutter up your house and cause overwhelm for both the adults and children. Less is more, just chosen very carefully!

Jellybean85 · 06/12/2023 12:52

@Pipistrellus does t have to be normal at all if you're considering three. We have three and that list seems excessive tk me! Lots of wasted and plastic it seems if they all get loads like that! And yes ours passed toys down. One boy two girls.

ChristmasSugarplumFairy · 06/12/2023 12:53

It's the volume of gifts rather than the volume of pounds that's the main decider on whether it is "too much" IMHO.
I could spend that quite easily on my 4 year old and it only be a few gifts because I like to choose gifts with a bit of a longer life span and the family will pick up things related to the latest obsession.
DS hasn't the foggiest whether I spent £20 or £2000 - he's 4. He's just happy playing with his new toys.
I don't like massive "piles" as they are stressful to deal with and it's no fun when kids don't have space to actually play.

Littlecatonthefence · 06/12/2023 12:56

Pipistrellus · 06/12/2023 12:45

Is all the stuff from last Christmas too young and passed on/sold now? Does she not get plenty of hand me downs from the two older girls? Just struggling to understand if this is normal for Christmas x3 children what happens to it all?

Oldest is 11, middle is 9 so quite a big difference now in age. Ive kept load of clothes to be fair. The dolls house is a hand me down as is the bike.

My next door neighbors daughter is 7 so she gets alot of things as she is closer in age.

Ive kept all the barbie stuff from my middle child packed away for my youngest Christmas so absolutely most big things have been kept but alot of "smaller/cheaper" items were given to my neighbor or charity.

She was a surprise (but over the moon) 3rd baby 😊

Derdiedasdie · 06/12/2023 12:58

ginandtonicwithlimes · 06/12/2023 12:47

Don't have you have hand me downs? My son will get the Duplo my daughter was given. He has the dolls she was given and plays with a pram that I bought for her. Each to their own but at three she won't be bothered yet. Is there big age gaps?

Jeez how depressing. I’m one of 5 from a not wealthy family and we never got hand me down gifts from older siblings. We always got something new for Christmas that was our own.

00100001 · 06/12/2023 13:03

Littlecatonthefence · 06/12/2023 12:38

LOOK AT WHAT I POSTED

There is no toys throughout the year only essential purchases like clothes etc, Birthdays we maybe spend around £60 on them so christmas we go all out because we want to

Ok calm down. It's just seemed unlikely they don't receive a single toy, big or small throughout the year. Because people who know kids (aunts uncles, parents of friends etc) usually buy children toys for birthdays or special occasions or whatever.

So,.if you meant "we don't buy them toys" then fine... It wasn't clear.