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My sister is a Sugar Baby

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MiniMinn · 27/11/2023 16:40

NC for this one but I promise I’ve been around for a while. Sorry it’s a long one too!

My younger DS (27) told me a few months ago that alongside her corporate job she is a sugar baby. When I questioned it (in a non judge way, just “are you safe” kind of way) she defended it with “it’s fine because I don’t have sex with any of them”.

she has both men and women who regularly buy her lavish gifts, send her money etc.

but this is where I am worried now:

1- she lets them have her actual address and meets up with them. Doesn’t have a PO Box or anything.

2- most of them she has met over social media and is quite quick to let them send her stuff, she meets up with them alone and with friends, but often asks them to send stuff before meeting in person. How does she know they are who they say they are?

3- the big one. she has now quit her job (good for her, she hated it) and moved back in with my parents. In January she is going travelling alone for six months predominantly funded by her main “sugar mama”. What if someone wants something more in return eventually?

I am worried about this going badly somewhere along the line. What if she comes across a weirdo and they have been given my parents address. Her and my parents will be at risk.

my parents don’t know about this they just know about someone who is her “wealthy friend”

I have tried to talk to her but have very little social media presence, and she seems to think I’m really out of touch. According her this is totally normal. It’s not is it?

I’m so worried, I have such a bad feeling about the whole thing.

OP posts:
teoma · 27/11/2023 22:40

@CagneyAndLazy, interesting why you think multiple people will be interested in supporting a lavish lifestyle without sexual favours in return.

One or two of them might indeed be interested in just a friendly chat or a date, but most people who pursue this lifestyle would eventually ask for sex.

oakleaffy · 27/11/2023 22:45

teoma · 27/11/2023 22:40

@CagneyAndLazy, interesting why you think multiple people will be interested in supporting a lavish lifestyle without sexual favours in return.

One or two of them might indeed be interested in just a friendly chat or a date, but most people who pursue this lifestyle would eventually ask for sex.

No one gives free stuff without something in return.
Why would they?

Especially not numerous men and now a woman.

There will be 'Services given' on some level.

silverxylophone · 27/11/2023 22:45

At 27, she is virtually a geriatric in 'sugar baby' terms. I very much doubt there is no sex or strings involved. She is effectively using your parents' real life address as the operational base for her knocking shop, online or otherwise.

I'd tell them. But then I do judge these silly cows.

oakleaffy · 27/11/2023 22:49

MiniMinn · 27/11/2023 16:53

I think she sends them pictures etc. she told me a few details but I didn’t want to know all of it.

I also highly doubt there is no such thing as free money - they will obviously want something in return in the future if not now

So she poses for w@nk fodder pics.
Probably a webcam girl as well.

MsRosley · 27/11/2023 22:59

Lilibert456 · 27/11/2023 17:00

There will be a sexual exchange of some sort. No point wrapping it up in ribbons...she is a prostitute.

Not really. Prostitutes provide a service. This girl doesn't seem to bother doing that.

Disturbia81 · 27/11/2023 23:24

Ugh I hate the world.

DonnaBanana · 27/11/2023 23:34

It's depressing we live in a time where people think others won't do nice things or give people things unless they get sex in return. This may be a dangerous world in many ways and sex obsessed to a great extent but we can be a bit more glass half full than that, surely?

BlueGrey1 · 27/11/2023 23:37

If they are funding her lifestyle she should use the money wisely to further her education and get a better job, being a sugar baby is not a career and won’t last forever, also friends and family are soon going to find out as there will be too many questions about how her lifestyle is being funded.
I doubt very much that she isn’t having sex with them as you don’t get something for nothing, this would essentially make her a prostitute, you can dress it up as ‘Sugar Baby’ but when you get money for sex it is prostitution

JennyJenny8675309 · 28/11/2023 00:15

ChampagneCommunist · 27/11/2023 16:44

How does one find a wealthy person who wants to give gifts? Asking for a friend

🤣😂

FrasierReboot · 28/11/2023 00:18

I know someone who does this. She has 3 kids, split from her husband a few years ago and now makes mega money as a sugar baby.

YorkshirePuddingBelongs · 28/11/2023 00:20

ChampagneCommunist · 27/11/2023 16:44

How does one find a wealthy person who wants to give gifts? Asking for a friend

If you happen to find out can you let me know I also have an interested friend

JennyJenny8675309 · 28/11/2023 00:21

CagneyAndLazy · 27/11/2023 22:34

Amazing how many people are stating as fact that OP's sister is a sex worker.

Some have "guaranteed" it. Others have said she "definitely has sex with them".

Where do MNers get their misplaced confidence from?

I don’t know about misplaced confidence, but I’m more confident it’s gifts + sex rather than just gifts for the hell of it.

Hardtime · 28/11/2023 00:34

I know a psychotherapist who works as a life coach. Absolutely amazing, resolved something that had been bothering me for over 30 years in a 20 minute telephone call.
Most of their work is helping those with £100 million+ decisions to get their heads straight and to be able to cope with the pressure of their jobs.
My understanding is that earnings vary between £250k and £400k each year without ever meeting clients in the flesh.
Accordingly, I don't find it difficult to imagine that someone with a hectic job, involving lots of travel would be happy to pay a thousand or two a month to have a sympathetic ear to call on, or to have phone-sex with. It might even make them more effective at their job, if they know that they need to generate five or six thousand extra in commission/bonus each month to keep the Sugar Baby in Manolos.

LuluBlakey1 · 28/11/2023 00:36

SurprisedWithAHorse · 27/11/2023 22:10

No. Bodily autonomy - or even simple desperation, which is the reason for many people who do it - is one thing. Purchasing a human is another.

If sex work is sinful, it's on the punter.

I'd question who the punter is in this case - they are all disgusting.

Isittimeformynapyet · 28/11/2023 00:37

CombatLingerie · 27/11/2023 17:20

Isn’t there some sort of fetish where people get a thrill from being taken advantage of financially? Perhaps this is what she is doing? Grasping at straws😂

Someone's probably answered this already, but yes, it's a subset of the kink D/S dynamic.

It's mostly women who are FinDom (financially dominant) over men who get a thrill from being financially submissive. Often the sub will hand complete control of their money to their Dom.

And no, sex doesn't have to be part of it.

Wakemeup17 · 28/11/2023 06:13

glarnaire · 27/11/2023 16:46

So she's a sex worker?

There's findom which doesn't always include sex (but may)

RantyAnty · 28/11/2023 06:26

any sugar baby opportunities for mid 60s woman. I have plenty of jelly rolls to share.

porridgeisbae · 28/11/2023 13:15

Most of their work is helping those with £100 million+ decisions to get their heads straight and to be able to cope with the pressure of their jobs.
My understanding is that earnings vary between £250k and £400k each year without ever meeting clients in the flesh.

Accordingly, I don't find it difficult to imagine that someone with a hectic job, involving lots of travel would be happy to pay a thousand or two a month to have a sympathetic ear to call on, or to have phone-sex with. It might even make them more effective at their job, if they know that they need to generate five or six thousand extra in commission/bonus each month to keep the Sugar Baby in Manolos.

Being a therapist/effective coach is hardly the same as a random who happens to be pretty. Maybe the therapist does some phone work but probably it's mostly 50 min or so Zoom sessions, if they don't do in person sessions. I've had therapy via Zoom and it was ok.

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 28/11/2023 13:51

This sort of thing has been going on for millennia and I doubt it will ever go away.

Recently read ‘Nana’ by Emile Zola, set in 1860s. Same old story.

Hardtime · 28/11/2023 23:20

A story that seems to sum up the state of the world in 2023 - and why it might be best for both parties not to meet IRL:

CagneyAndLazy · 29/11/2023 11:28

JennyJenny8675309 · 28/11/2023 00:21

I don’t know about misplaced confidence, but I’m more confident it’s gifts + sex rather than just gifts for the hell of it.

Again, why "confident"? You shouldn't assume because you 'think' something it's fact.

As someone else has said 'findom' is a thing for some people. No sex involved whatsoever.

That may or may not be the case here; we don't know.

JennyJenny8675309 · 29/11/2023 18:49

CagneyAndLazy · 29/11/2023 11:28

Again, why "confident"? You shouldn't assume because you 'think' something it's fact.

As someone else has said 'findom' is a thing for some people. No sex involved whatsoever.

That may or may not be the case here; we don't know.

You’re right, of course. I was simply using the vocabulary from the quoted post.

Begsthequestion · 02/12/2023 16:53

CagneyAndLazy · 29/11/2023 11:28

Again, why "confident"? You shouldn't assume because you 'think' something it's fact.

As someone else has said 'findom' is a thing for some people. No sex involved whatsoever.

That may or may not be the case here; we don't know.

Does findom not bring sexual satisfaction to the client?

I thought they were getting off on it.

OhMelville · 26/07/2024 20:50

Hi @MiniMinn ive just been reading this thread with interest! How is your sister getting on? Any updates? Hoping she is safe and well and enjoying her travels!

Yourdemonsyourproblem · 26/07/2024 23:15

How do I find one? Asking for me

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