to expect dd to tolerate her brothers playing while she's trying to sleep?

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My 10 year old likes to sleep late, but her brothers wake up early and play in the mornings. They make noise when they play. I think it's a good thing because they're spending time together and not on screens. But dd keeps getting upset that they wake her up. Then she comes out of her room and it starts a fight and dh gets upset because that wakes him up and he also likes to sleep late.

Define late, define early and what age?

Like they're up around 8 and she likes to sleep until 10 when there's no school. She's ten. My sons are 6 and 12.

10 is late for a 10 year old i think

teach your boys to be kind and play quietly.

agree on a time when they can turn up the volume.

it's ok to sleep in at weekends and sleep is important.

It's not reasonable to expect everyone to bed quiet until 10am, it's very late for young children. 8am is perfectly fine.

How late is your 10 year old going to bed if she wants to sleep until 10am?

They should learn respect for others. Just watch morning TV ffs.

Can you ask them to do something quietly until 9am weekends. It is annoying being woken up.

It's not normal for a 10 year old to sleep until 10am. Not normal at all.
What time does she go to bed?

it's not 'just' dd losing sleep, is it.
dh wants to sleep in as well.

How noisy are they being? They aren't waking DP up. As long as they aren't screaming and shouting, then I don't think it is fair to expect a silent house until 10 am. However they could be considerate and keep the noise down near her room.

Waking up at 10am isn't losing sleep imo.
DH can wear ear plugs.

She does stay up late when there's no school in the morning. She doesn't have a set time she has to sleep, but she has to be in bed with only books at 8pm. Dh stays up late, too, so he's opposed to a strict bedtime when there's no school in the mornings. My sons go to bed early, around 8. The oldest wakes up the earliest and is very quiet until his little brother also wakes up. My 6 year old is the loudest, and my 12 year old can also get loud once they're playing together. Maybe I could move the toys to another area of the house.

The ten year old needs an earlier bedtime, but the boys need to be taught from an early age to be considerate of other people in the house. You may already have missed the boat with the eldest.

If they're up at 8 that's fine.
She needs to learn to live with it

@greenacrylicpaint The area they play is near the front of the house and our bedroom is in the back of the house, so dh doesn't wake up until there's fighting.

Where are the boys playing? Right next door to her room? That would be annoying. But if they're downstairs for example.and not directly next to her, I think that's ok at 8am and later.

Maybe compromise and ask them to keep it down until 9, and tell your daughter people can't tiptoe around until she decides she wants to get up.

Nah the DD can go to bed earlier if sleeps that important to her! She can be kind to her brothers, the world doesn't wake up at 10, it's far earlier than that!

10??? Send that child to bed earlier!!

What about the princess going to bed earlier? Why should screens be the first thought? They want to play!

I thinkyour DH is unreasonable to expect to be able to sleep until 10am when he has 3 children.

Tell your DD to use earplugs.

8am is not 'early'.

@TwiddlingMyToes There's an open room all their bedrooms open up to and it's being used as a place for them to play and watch tv. I could move the toys downstairs, though dh might balk at a bunch of magnetic tiles and legos out in our adult space. But that would probably solve the fighting, which wakes him up. I could also do a better job of keeping everyone quiet since I'm up early, too.

@AuContraire DH sleeps until 11! And always insists he had terrible sleep and is exhausted. He might get up at 10:30 if I tell him the time and ask how late he wants to sleep.

This is a natural consequence of her choosing to go to sleep late. If you feel she's old enough to make that decision, then she's old enough to deal with the consequences if she's tired in the mornings. And frankly your DH is definitely old enough to deal with the consequences of his choice not to police that. I would bring it to a family meeting, tbh, and let them all work through that solution. Quiet in the house at 10 am is not a reasonable expectation with children.

My dd is the same, has always slept late. Even as a newborn wouldn't wake until around 9/10. I don't think 10 is particularly late tbh but the house shouldn't revolve around her. Her brother sometimes plays violin outside her room that causes a fun weekend.

Id try to cap noise till around 9 and then ensure that they are away from her room but if she is woken tough.

I feel your pain though a woken "princess" is scary 😂

Wtf.

He has three children. You don't have adult space in the living room 😂 that's what your bedroom is for.