PT 2 of Who the F**K still thinks voting Tory is a good idea?

[Zonder]

Would be such a shame not to continue the discussion.

Thanks Zonder

I only came across the previous one this morning thanks to Clav

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I haven’t seen the previous post but spending time recently with my retired parents and in-laws, it was pleasing to hear how pissed off they are and that they won’t be voting Tory next time round!

I reckon a lot of Tories don't think it's a good idea.

My parents will still vote Tory. Although they stand by Brexit and think Boris is funny.

I have given up and we just don't talk about it any more

Yes there is a flip side to trying to fill the last 50 posts of a thread with random stuff.

Both my parents and in laws always vote conservative. Both say that next year they are going to spoil their ballot paper.

Conservatives are currently the only party that know what a woman is. Greens and LibDems are entirely captured by trans ideology. I don’t think a man can ever be a woman. I believe we have to find a better solution than women ceding sporting podiums, places on an all female shortlists etc.

I may well hold my nose and vote Conservative. Trans ideology is authoritarian nonsense.

Mixture of voting intentions in the Stairs family. Notably the Stairs members who are currently working in financial services are voting Labour for possibly the first time.
I vote LD as that was the best way to get rid of our terrible Tory MP.

LibDems were an anti Brexit vote. Their vote share is likely to fall away now that’s done and they aren’t even proponents of rejoin. You need to look back to the voting in your constituency before the EU membership referendum.

Also LibDems are only ever going to be in a position of power via coalition. Last time when they propped up the Tories they even failed to get proportional representation done. They are pointless.

Thanks Zonder. I see it didn’t take long for the “know what a woman is” bollocks to surface. Shame they don’t know how to treat women.

Around 3.8 million people experienced destitution in 2022, a 61% rise since 2019.

This included around 1 million children, an 88% rise since 2019.

The no. of people experiencing destitution has more than doubled in the last 5 years, while the no. of children has tripled.

Joseph Roundtree Foundation Oct 2023

"but they know what a woman is"

@YesshesaidyesiwillYes cos the Tories are amazing at protecting women 😬.

Ha!

I think it's because they are seen as the party of The Establishment and a lot of people kind of fetishise that and assume they'll get given a prize and maybe even a place in The Establishment if they support them. But of course, The Establishment doesn't give a shit about them and has every interest in keeping people In Their Place.

It’s not hard to allow my feminist principles to trump my socialist principles when none of the opposition parties are socialist.

Thread two - cracks fingers - I'm ready!

I live in an echo chamber, almost all my friends and colleagues are Labour supporters, and I only actually know one person who definitely votes Tory.

She's still voting Tory because she's politically and economically illiterate, and has no grasp of how stuff works. She bloody loved the flatulent fabricator Johnson because she thought he was "hilarious". She was an NHS nurse for many years and is now in local government, managing sheltered housing schemes, but because she's got a few lazy colleagues she's still convinced that our public services are adequately funded and any problems are down to bad management and/or lazy staff. Oh, and also because so many people have more children than they can afford because they get more benefits (I've pointed out that since 2017, they don't get any more money after the second child, but she just shrugs).

I frequently question why I still regard her as a friend, but it's really because she's very kind to people she actually knows, very funny and generally good company. But my god, she really does frustrate me to the point where I feel like shaking her.

One SIL and her husband vote Tory, but they've fucked off to live in Australia to avoid paying tax on the millions they make on the houses they build/do up, so might not vote in the GE. The cheeky fuckers thought they should get tax relief on the money they spent on school fees, because they were saving the state money! The other SIL might vote Tory, and I suspect her DH does, but as they live in one of the safest seats in the country, it makes little difference. I don't actually know how they vote, and they don't get involved in political conversations.

Try living in South West Surrey and not voting Tory! We have Hunt and Gove. There's a possibility that LD might dislodge the Tories in Guildford, but generally if you don't vote Tory, no point in voting 😂

SW Surrey is in the top 20 of LD target seats. While that may have been a bit of a long shot, after recent by elections, I'm not so sure.

People are clearly getting the hang of tactical voting. I live in a Tory/LD marginal (ranked 10 on the LDs' list) and fully expect it to go back to being LD at the next GE (it was LD between 1997 and 2015). All my Labour friends here, many of whom are party members, vote tactically. I would be pleasantly surprised if SW Surrey went LD next time, but not shocked.

Hunt and Gove’s majorities are both smaller than those overturned in recent by elections, Hunt’s is less than 10k and he’s not standing next time anyway. There’s more point in not voting Tory everywhere now than there’s ever been. I live in a Tory stronghold that’s predicted to have a 75% chance of going Labour.

After the boundary changes, Hunt's new seat is Godalming and Ash. Paul Follows is the Lib Dems candidate there.

I don't know if the candidates for Farnham and Bordon have been announced yet.

We actually live in Guildford Borough, but can't vote in Guildford for parliamentary elections. The boundaries here are shit for us. We have been included in Woking for years, which was shit, now with the boundary changes they thought about putting us in South West Surrey but no. Now we are in Surrey Heath.....no sense to it at all, we now have Gove. Lucky lucky me!

You can check out your own seat on www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html

Mine is now looking dicey for the current Conservative who is a reasonable guy, but he has had zero impact on his party really; not a Johnson or Brexit supporter.

My own impeccable High Tory relations do not want to vote for Sunak. They will be staying at home.