To intensely dislike Keir Starmer

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I can't stand Tories.
The current Tories are the worst

But I still intensely dislike Keir Starmer and will probably vote Green.

I find him phony, with no vision, like a terrible 6th form prefect. And to be honest his whole front bench are dreadful. Wes Streeting nauseates me.

Is it just me?

Nope. It was over for me when he said women can have a penis.

I couldn't really give a monkeys about that, it's more that I feel he doesn't mean a word out of his mouth

I first came across Keir Starmer when he was DPP. His views and opions were incredibly reasonable and well thought out. I don't necessarliy think he's the best leader that there is but he's a decent man. I hate the Tories so much that I'd rather a decent man tbh. Tories are vile.

I would never vote Tory but Keir is so Luke warm and not exactly selling himself! Absolutely uninspiring!

I like him well enough. I like the fact he is a decent man and an alternative to the Tories.

Wow. You don't care he doesn't respect females as a sex?

He doesn’t even know what a female is - you can’t respect someone like that let alone elect him to run a country.

Yes, I think YABU. Consider the policies and don’t get sucked into personality politics. It’s because of this reductive shallow idiocy, we get Trumps and Johnsons et al: manipulative liars who are good at appearing charismatic to the easily duped.

I know what you mean OP. There's just something a little bit slimy and unpleasant about him. Nothing you can point to though.

He doesn’t bother me. that’s a low bar I know, but it’s all relative isn’t it?!

He has clarified the position on protecting some sex based spaces etc sufficiently for me to be ok with that.

He's not overly charismatic you're dead right. His eyes are too close together.

He is intelligent hard working working wants a fairer society. I mean he's a huge improvement on the narcissists and utter fools we have had

He's a highly educated man who doesn't understand that the word 'pledge' actually has a meaning that leads to expectations.
He forgot he owned a 7 acre field in Surrey.
He has less charisma than the Ed Stone.

Other than that, entirely electable.

Completely agree OP. He makes me wince.. can't bear to listen to him.

People are telling me to focus on his policies. I have. They're as uninspiring as he is

I find him much improved on current government. I normally vote Lib Dem and debating voting Labour under him. He just seems a decent man with a moral compass.

Alternative suggestions for prime minister:

Kathy Burke
My ex boss
Bernie Sanders (not allowed sadly)
Any of the guys from Queer eye (see above)
Lord Grantham (fictional admittedly)
Danny Dyer
Ian McKellen
Marcus Rashford
The fit one from Duran Duran
Rachel Weiss

I could go on all day....

All these people willing to throw the entire country under a bus because they hate and fear trans women.
Tragic and at the same time enraging.

He doesn't convince me either. Luke warm is my best description of him too. Something about him that I can't put my finger on, but it feels like he's playing a role.

I'm thinking of voting Green.

The Greens in my part of the UK are completely barking mad. (Scotland).

I'd vote for him to prevent the tories getting back in

I agree with Mark Steele on Sir Keir, he said his genius is to "say nothing and then a week later go back on it".

I will not vote Labour until they can commit to protecting women's rights to single sex spaces.

He's not a decent man, he's a liar and a bully. He has broken the pledges on which he was elected as leader; he rules the Labour Party with tyranny, treating decent socialist members with contempt, in the main not allowing socialists to be re-elected because he wants to replicate the Tory Party. About 200,000 members have left or been expelled, plenty on spurious grounds.

He is a hypocrite, pretending to be working class when his policies will make poor people and families poorer or no better off.

He treats his own party members with contempt - this is how he will treat the general public.

He is vain and arrogant; a Boris Johnson without the buffoonery.

It’s going to be like the Brexit vote all over again where it is clear that another term of Tories would be a complete disaster for the country but we end up with them because Keir had a beer and doesn’t know what a woman is.

I’ve given up on this country and will sit back and watch it play out knowing I haven’t paid a part in the clusterfuck it is and continue to be and moan like fuck knowing it’s nothing to do with me.

What is it about the genuinely working class gay Wes Streeting that nauseates you?