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To think she's a CF?

382 replies

nopainnogain1 · 17/09/2023 16:42

My 12 year old has a school friend. This girl frequently comes home from school with DD and I feed her, care for her, she sleeps here etc when her mum's 'busy'.
She's a nice kid, but prone to a lack of respect at times. She refers to me as her second mum which is slightly odd but somewhat endearing. It's probably why I let some of her behaviour slide. Like, for example, she'll decide she needs a shower and will go in to my en-suite and help herself to my very expensive shampoo and conditioner. She takes them back to DD's bathroom, where after use she'll leave them thrown on the floor along with her wet towels. Apparently the shampoo and condition I provide for my own daughter isn't good enough for her hair type.

Anyway. On Friday after school my DD calls. Can her friend come over? Okay I say. They turn up just before dinner..... and this kid has been here ever since. She left about ten minutes ago after announcing 'I'm going! My mum's outside in the car. We're off out for dinner, bye!' Then out the front door she trots, wearing my daughter's hoodie, socks and sliders. I doubt I'll see those again. 🙄 I asked DD if she was invited out for dinner too. She wasn't.

This bothers me, and I'll tell you why. On Friday evening she tells me her mum is out in town in a date. DP and I exchanged a glance. So we are both aware that her mum's off with a new fella thus she needs the childcare and so sent her kid here.

On Saturday early eve the girls ask if they can go out and ask for money for food and drink. I send £20 to this girl's account because DD doesn't have a bank card yet and I didn't want to hand mine over.
They head off to the garden of a local very reasonably priced chain pub for a coke and a pizza before going on to meet friends at the park.

My daughter calls later on to ask for a lift home. I say no, it's still light and you're a ten minute walk away, see you shortly. She chats about their evening and says they asked her friend's mum for a lift home to ours but she was 'too drunk'. When they arrived at the pub she was already there drinking apparently.

Am I unreasonable to think that if you're going to palm your child off on someone else all weekend so you can go out to the pub and go on dates, and you've very much aware that someone else has given your daughter money for a meal out, then the very least you can do is get out of your car, come to the door and say thanks for having my child all weekend. And if you want to take your kid out for dinner afterwards, that's fine. But don't tell your DD this plan until you're well away from the house you left them at all weekend. Otherwise you just look like a massive CF!

OP posts:
NunsKnickers · 17/09/2023 16:43

Why on Earth are you letting yourself and your daughter be treated like this?

Thementalloadisreal · 17/09/2023 16:44

Yeah the mum is a massive CF. The poor kid though, I feel for her. She thinks this is normal but her mum is neglecting her. She’s lucky to have you.

Ikeepmybumcheekshidden · 17/09/2023 16:48

You need to have a very stern & frank phone call with this woman! Also do not allow this girl back into your house again

SisterMichaelsHabit · 17/09/2023 16:48

Yes this woman is a giant CF. But from her pattern of behaviour, this type of person isn't known for having the self awareness to be grateful for anything.

It's so good that the daughter has you as a positive influence so she might grow up to not be like her mother. Personally I'd square it with myself that I was doing this because it made my daughter happy, nothing more, because that woman will never, ever appreciate what you are doing, in fact, if you stop doing it (e.g. if the girls fall out) she'll probably complain and make out like she's the victim because she doesn't have childcare anymore.

BonnieLisbon · 17/09/2023 16:48

I wouldn't let her nick my child's clothes and shoes

AffIt · 17/09/2023 16:49

You're getting taken for a ride here, OP, and you need to speak to the child's mother directly.

But a quick one you can put in place is that guests use the family bathroom - your en suite is yours!

Ghostwritersinc · 17/09/2023 16:49

The mother is an entitled cow.
You can’t really blame the daughter if this is how the mother treats others.
I would absolutely not be carrying on with the weekend showers/feeding/sleepovers though, and make sure your daughter gets her stuff back!

Haphazard8 · 17/09/2023 16:51

Before I even got to the bit about her being drunk my ‘alcoholic parent radar’ was going off.

Yes the girl does seem a bit too comfortable at your house and lacks respect but I would hazard a guess she is escaping to yours from a chaotic life at home.

MidnightOnceMore · 17/09/2023 16:51

The other mum is the CF but I don't understand why you're allowing the behaviour? It's your house, don't let her use you shampoo or take the clothes.

Hermittrismegistus · 17/09/2023 16:52

Why haven't you told her not to use your stuff and not to take your daughters clothes?

FrenchandSaunders · 17/09/2023 16:52

I wouldn’t ban her as her home life sounds shit, but you do need to set some rules.

WeeOrcadian · 17/09/2023 16:54

YABU by allowing this CF-ery to continue

You already know she's a CF and you need to nip it in the bud. Now.

BravoMyDear · 17/09/2023 16:55

Why the fuck are you letting this kid use all your stuff and steal your DD’s clothes? You are the adult here!

Spirallingdownwards · 17/09/2023 16:55

To be fair you are the one allowing it to happen.

And as for letting her walk out in your daughter's clothes and shows you should have stopped her and sent her upstairs to change into her own things.

Ponoka7 · 17/09/2023 16:57

So have you spoken to the mother? I'd consider having a chat with the school. You need to start digging a bit deeper on this. It doesn't do children any good for well meaning people to put a sticking plaster over what's going on enough so it is hidden from school/services etc.

SnackQueen · 17/09/2023 16:57

Stop being such a doormat and allowing your daughter to be one too.

FOJN · 17/09/2023 16:57

Mum is a cheeky fucker and you need to have a conversation with her about arranging visits, particularly overnight visits, in advance so that you can refuse or agree as is convenient and ask for the child to be supplied with funds if required.

Why you are letting a 12 year old child treat your home like a hotel and steal your daughter's clothes is a mystery. Set some boundaries for goodness sake.

nopainnogain1 · 17/09/2023 16:57

I usually just take it on the chin because I know the girls genuinely love each other and I've heard from her all about her home life. There's been violence and neglect and drug use in the past. I think things have improved somewhat since the last boyfriend took himself off to be with another woman though. She is a good kid, but just lacks understanding of boundaries.
I've told her, stop using my shampoo! Use the stuff I've provided. She said sorry but has used it again this weekend. She also goes though things like toilet rolls, packs of cotton wool and other sundry items like crazy.

Tonight I'm pretty pissed off with her mum though. I mean, get off your arse and come to the door for your child. And don't invite one child for dinner but not the other. Having said that, at least I know my DD is safe here eating her roast dinner without a drunk fish wife breathing down her neck. It's just wrong on every level.

Also, while I'm on my soap box. Stop telling my child that school doesn't matter. Not everyone aspires to be a washed up ex glamour model.

OP posts:
LadyWiddiothethird · 17/09/2023 16:58

You are the problem OP for allowing this to happen!

FOJN · 17/09/2023 17:00

nopainnogain1 · 17/09/2023 16:57

I usually just take it on the chin because I know the girls genuinely love each other and I've heard from her all about her home life. There's been violence and neglect and drug use in the past. I think things have improved somewhat since the last boyfriend took himself off to be with another woman though. She is a good kid, but just lacks understanding of boundaries.
I've told her, stop using my shampoo! Use the stuff I've provided. She said sorry but has used it again this weekend. She also goes though things like toilet rolls, packs of cotton wool and other sundry items like crazy.

Tonight I'm pretty pissed off with her mum though. I mean, get off your arse and come to the door for your child. And don't invite one child for dinner but not the other. Having said that, at least I know my DD is safe here eating her roast dinner without a drunk fish wife breathing down her neck. It's just wrong on every level.

Also, while I'm on my soap box. Stop telling my child that school doesn't matter. Not everyone aspires to be a washed up ex glamour model.

Stop complaining and grow a back bone. Set a better example to your daughter about expectations in friendships. This poor girl may have had a shit time at home but you will not help her by tolerating all sorts of unacceptable behaviour from either her or her mum.

nopainnogain1 · 17/09/2023 17:00

LadyWiddiothethird · 17/09/2023 16:58

You are the problem OP for allowing this to happen!

You're right. But what's the alternative? This kid would be dragged round the pubs all weekend, or made to feel like shit because she's stopped her mother living her free and single lifestyle.

The social have been involved and probably still are. I know her dad was removed from the family home for some reason and banned from having contact.

OP posts:
fiddlesticksandotherwords · 17/09/2023 17:01

Is your dd happy about this arrangement, or do you think that her friend is the dominant one in the friendship and is calling all the shots? There is the possibility, of course, that this girl comes to you because she has no-one else to turn to, and she is being neglected at home.

Perhaps speak to your dd and find out whether she is actually happy for this friend to spend so much time at your home.

I might also suggest that you speak to someone at their school, just to give them a quick heads-up.

handyandie · 17/09/2023 17:01

@nopainnogain1 can you ask to have a chat with the mum, say your daughter is lovely and we're happy to have her here, but since she is always here rather that it being 50:50, I am having to pay for quite a lot, especially when they're off out together and I'm footing the bill, so we need to work something out so I'm not the only one paying.

GabriellaMontez · 17/09/2023 17:01

Yes she's a cf.

Why are you being a doormat?

You are being used and modelling this to your daughter.

It is you who has poor boundaries.

VanillaImpulse · 17/09/2023 17:03

Ban her from using your bathroom at the very least and stop her taking your daughters clothes and shoes