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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think she's a CF?

382 replies

nopainnogain1 · 17/09/2023 16:42

My 12 year old has a school friend. This girl frequently comes home from school with DD and I feed her, care for her, she sleeps here etc when her mum's 'busy'.
She's a nice kid, but prone to a lack of respect at times. She refers to me as her second mum which is slightly odd but somewhat endearing. It's probably why I let some of her behaviour slide. Like, for example, she'll decide she needs a shower and will go in to my en-suite and help herself to my very expensive shampoo and conditioner. She takes them back to DD's bathroom, where after use she'll leave them thrown on the floor along with her wet towels. Apparently the shampoo and condition I provide for my own daughter isn't good enough for her hair type.

Anyway. On Friday after school my DD calls. Can her friend come over? Okay I say. They turn up just before dinner..... and this kid has been here ever since. She left about ten minutes ago after announcing 'I'm going! My mum's outside in the car. We're off out for dinner, bye!' Then out the front door she trots, wearing my daughter's hoodie, socks and sliders. I doubt I'll see those again. 🙄 I asked DD if she was invited out for dinner too. She wasn't.

This bothers me, and I'll tell you why. On Friday evening she tells me her mum is out in town in a date. DP and I exchanged a glance. So we are both aware that her mum's off with a new fella thus she needs the childcare and so sent her kid here.

On Saturday early eve the girls ask if they can go out and ask for money for food and drink. I send £20 to this girl's account because DD doesn't have a bank card yet and I didn't want to hand mine over.
They head off to the garden of a local very reasonably priced chain pub for a coke and a pizza before going on to meet friends at the park.

My daughter calls later on to ask for a lift home. I say no, it's still light and you're a ten minute walk away, see you shortly. She chats about their evening and says they asked her friend's mum for a lift home to ours but she was 'too drunk'. When they arrived at the pub she was already there drinking apparently.

Am I unreasonable to think that if you're going to palm your child off on someone else all weekend so you can go out to the pub and go on dates, and you've very much aware that someone else has given your daughter money for a meal out, then the very least you can do is get out of your car, come to the door and say thanks for having my child all weekend. And if you want to take your kid out for dinner afterwards, that's fine. But don't tell your DD this plan until you're well away from the house you left them at all weekend. Otherwise you just look like a massive CF!

OP posts:
LiarLiarKnickersAblaze · 01/10/2023 06:37

When I was younger, home life was tough. I was also in an independent school despite not coming from a wealthy family. Several of the my friends parents allowed me to spend time in their homes and showed me role models of parenthood and behaviour that looking back changed my life. Helped me aspire to more professionally and personally. They gave me sanctuary and I hope it has the same effect on this girl but just be careful because of the behaviour of the mother.

CruCru · 01/10/2023 09:42

Yeah, got to say that AIBU is about as unsafe a place as I’ve ever found.

stucky · 28/04/2024 11:49

SunRainStorm · 17/09/2023 17:25

I'm not sure why you would want your daughter to be invited out to dinner with them - I wouldn't let my child get into a car with someone I thought had a drinking problem, a tendency towards choosing abusive men and a history of social services involvement.

I think you need to keep helping this girl but impose some boundaries.

Tell her you are disappointed she ignored you when you told her not to go into your bathroom.

If she's staying all weekend, text the mother asking for some money to cover their expenses. Make a habit of this, if she is staying with you, text the mum and ask for £10 or what have you. People don't value things they get for free, so introduce a nominal charge for the childcare you're providing.

She shouldn't walk out with your daughter's clothes so text her mother asking for them to be returned.

I think it’s really dangerous to make aspersions based on limited information that is being given by a 12 year old. OP has limited visibility in my opinion. Not all women that have been in abusive relationships are bad parents, is a point I would like to make strongly here. Futhermore, we don’t know why the SS were involved. Although i would be very weary of allowing my child around someone that appears to drink a lot.

OP in regards to this situation I would sit down with your daughter and explain your feelings. At 12, developmentally children cannot always make the link between actions and consequences. It is our role to highlight those connections for them, for a child who may have witnessed violence within the the home there can be even more of an impact on there development in this area.

Be boundaried and firm. You can make an anonymous call to SS regarding muns behaviour. It sounds like DD’s friend lacks boundaries or has no awareness of boundaries due to her home life. I don’t think this would be done intentionally to take the P.

I would not fund meals etc for this child, and would want to talk to mum every time her daughter stays at your home. Ask your daughter if she allowed her friend to borrow these clothes and put rules in place around this. It is lovely you want to help her but it is important everyone involved is safe, happy and feel valued. Hope this resolves itself for the sake of your family and this young girl.

stucky · 28/04/2024 11:57

Emz6103 · 20/09/2023 01:44

Be careful OP that she doesn't lead your daughter ashtray, a chaotic home life with drugs n alcohol is bound to cause a rebellion àt some point and if you can't stand up to this child your daughter won't be able to either!! By allowing her to use your shampoo and take your daughters clothes you're subconsciously telling your daughter that the friend is allowed to help herself to your daughters things! Tell her if she uses your shampoo again or takes your daughters clothes she won't be allowed back, and tell your daughter the same! She is still a child but not for long....she sounds like her mother....a taker!! You are not social services it's sad but you cannot be responsible for her mother's selfish behaviour. By not addressing the issue with the mother or the child you're handing them the upper hand and allowing those two to take you and your daughters belongins. This sets a bad example to your own daughter that she should let people take advantage of her. Explain to your daughter that if she wants friend to stay she has to bring lunch money as you cannot be used just so daughter can be happy. The girl sounds like a potential bad influence and you cannot afford to let that happen. Once your daughter goes off the rails it's hard to put them back on.... hindsight is 20/20.

Really saddened by this post.

This child is experiencing a turbulant home life and has also experienced adverse childhood traumas (removal of her father, witness and possible victim of DV at home).
I can understand why she wants to be at OP’s house which is likely to be more stable and meeting her needs in a way that her own home isn’t.

You and your family, OP, could be the positive influence this girl needs. You are a protective factor in her life and she is lucky to have you and your daughter.

Labelling children ‘takers’ and ‘bad influences’ is detrimental to their development, sense of identity and self esteem. Really saddened by the lack of compassion being demonstrated by some of the responses given. This young girl is very vulnerable, is only 12 years old and is not responsible for her situation or her mothers behaviour.

DitzyDoughnutt · 30/04/2024 16:50

@stucky
The O/P first duty of care is to her daughter. This other child is not the O/P responsibility.

Caffeineislife · 30/04/2024 17:07

You need to raise concerns with the school. Help them build the picture of the weekend for this child. It's highly likely the school are already aware of this girl but they may have very limited knowledge of weekend life for her. This girl is been neglected at home. She is known to social services, there is previous history of problematic homelife. Her home life sounds like it needs more monitoring. Her mother is leaving her for full weekends at yours if you are unavailable who does the girl go to? Are they a safe person to be left with?

What happens if the mum shacks up with some random online and moves miles away? Would the girl still be safe? Whilst you are putting a sticking plaster over the weekend care and ensuring she is clean and fed you are helping the mother neglect her child.

stucky · 30/04/2024 20:27

DitzyDoughnutt · 30/04/2024 16:50

@stucky
The O/P first duty of care is to her daughter. This other child is not the O/P responsibility.

I didn’t state otherwise?

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