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Roman Empire female equivalent

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HeadChog · 12/09/2023 22:21

Inspired by the Roman Empire thread, I wondered whether there is an equivalent thing that women think about a lot but men never do.

I reckon I think about Michael Jackson a lot more than my DH. I probably think about MJ at least 3-4 times a week.

Anyone else think about one obscure thing, unconnected with work or hobbies, a lot?

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meadowlass · 14/09/2023 08:46

I think about the history of the Holocaust a lot and read a lot about the subject. I ask myself what would I have done if I was an ordinary Germa rather than a very ordinary Englishwoman. As I live in France I often think about the German tanks rolling past what is now my house, Would I have been brave enough to hide Jewish children for my neighbour? I know it’s weird!

Str3bor · 14/09/2023 09:02

I think about cranes or titanic

UnconventionalLife · 14/09/2023 09:03

@meadowlass I also spend a lot of time thinking about this. I studied it in university & remain v interested & read a lot about it
I'm not Jewish but I feel a huge affinity which I can't explain.

I have visited the Jewish quarters/ ghettos in lots of cities - Venice, Prague, Budapest, Krakow, Trieste, Paris. I also wonder about how I might have reacted & whether I would have taken in people & hid them.

I find it very affecting to stand in those streets / places & imagine life there before the war. All the families & children running around & then gone.

mauveiscurious · 14/09/2023 09:23

Medieval Europe

EsmeSusanOgg · 14/09/2023 09:27

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 12/09/2023 22:22

I think about the Roman empire more than my DH :)

Yup! Though not as much as my 5 year old (thanks to Horrible Histories and a trip to Italy).

FatherJackHackettsUnderpantsHamper · 14/09/2023 11:06

I'll just be in Superdrug and think 'I wonder what Milli Vanilli or Shania Twain are doing now?'

Poor Rob (from MV) died 25 years ago, aged just 32 Sad

MavisMcMinty · 14/09/2023 12:10

I think about the end of the world a lot, have done for decades and my favourite books and films are post-apocalyptic. To be clear: I don’t want the world to end, and if it did I wouldn’t want to survive, but I spend an inordinate amount of time wondering how I’d cope all alone, what I’d do about all the animals trapped in dead people’s homes, assuming domestic pets will be immune to whatever it is that killed all the people.

I’d do pretty well here in rural Devon, wood to burn, rivers to drink and wash in, wildlife and domesticated livestock to eat, but the first thing I’d do is search neighbouring farms for a gun. Even though guns aren’t a thing in the UK like they are in the US, the end of civilisation in my wild imaginings is a lawless, dangerous place, and I’d need a gun to kill food and dangerous men. (I suppose women would/could become dangerous too.) And much as I love my house, I’d probably have to move into a neighbour’s smallholding, as his water comes from a natural spring and he has a solid fuel range to cook on.

AliceOlive · 14/09/2023 12:13

I just realized I spend a ton of time thinking about clothes and shoes that I used to have and throughout my life how to find similar again. My aunt just sent me a picture that’s about 25 years old. I loved the sweater I’m wearing in the picture. It’s going to be a long day now.

AngryBirdsNoMore · 14/09/2023 12:24

AliceOlive · 14/09/2023 12:13

I just realized I spend a ton of time thinking about clothes and shoes that I used to have and throughout my life how to find similar again. My aunt just sent me a picture that’s about 25 years old. I loved the sweater I’m wearing in the picture. It’s going to be a long day now.

I wish there was a Shazam for clothes

AliceOlive · 14/09/2023 12:56

What a great idea!!! Surprised it doesn’t exist.

OrianaBanana · 14/09/2023 13:30

Why I should probably do my ironing but never do
Pokemon. Like, who came up with the translated names? How do they decide what is effective against poison types? Who even came up with the idea of capturing small made up animals and making them fight each other and aiming it at kids.
And so forth.
I do think about the Roman Empire, medieval history etc a lot but that’s my job.
My husband never thinks about the Roman Empire at all. He does think a
lot about birds and birdwatching.

YeahIsaidit · 14/09/2023 13:51

There was a shazam type thing for clothes etc a while ago, perhaps it still exists I'm not sure. I think it was called something like "where'd she (maybe they?) get that" I've probably fudged the name but 100% was a thing I used it many moons ago

A quick Google. There is a website called lykdat (definitely not the one I remember) that can tell you where clothes are from with an image

RandomForest · 14/09/2023 14:13

SleepingStandingUp · 13/09/2023 13:57

You need to remember tho that anything you do will cause a ripple in time that might mean you are never born and time will collapse in on you

If you ask DS the first rule of time travel, he'll tell you it's to only go forwards

And there I am, actually taking this advice on board.

AliceOlive · 14/09/2023 14:15

I also think about places I have been and obsess about going back.

UnconventionalLife · 14/09/2023 15:35

@AliceOlive I also do this A LOT. I spend lots & lots of my time thinking about places I've/ we've been & usually in the context of one of my other historical or literary obsessions. It gives me great pleasure to be able to picture (remember) places in my mind when I'm reading.

And when I'm actually there & it's a place that I've read about or dreamt about I find myself almost in a strange twilight place constantly trying to 'see' or 'experience' the person or event that inspired me to fo there in the 1st place.

I love history & find this to be a very visceral & exciting experience.

I think I spend a lot of time thinking / dreaming as lots of the things mentioned on this thread have resonated deeply with me.

I read a huge amount too.

Mistressanne · 14/09/2023 15:41

I think about Les Miserables a lot and the life of french peasants and the legal system that meant you could be imprisoned for stealing a loaf of bread.
And then I look at food banks and realise that so many people would steal food today without them.
And I wonder just how far we’ve really come and if life really has improved.
Even healthcare is random now.

Mistressanne · 14/09/2023 15:42

RandomForest · 14/09/2023 14:13

And there I am, actually taking this advice on board.

I want to follow Charles Dickens around London.

Slowlylosingmymind101 · 14/09/2023 15:45

I don't think about anything really unless it's to do with kids/family/work. Those are my regular thoughts. Everything else is fleeting and isn't a regular thing.

UnconventionalLife · 14/09/2023 15:49

@Mistressanne I'm sure there are literary historical walking tours where you can do just that!

We've done loads of them over the years, not necessarily Charles Dickens but we've followed a 'Shardlake' walking tour of London (C.S.Sansom books) & ive done a Following in the footsteps of Leopold Bloom walking tour in Dublin etc

sockarefootwear · 14/09/2023 16:04

Septemberlady · 13/09/2023 22:56

Witches

I do too. I don't believe in magic (or any form of supernatural being/activity/powers etc) but I love the idea of being part of a secret group of women with the ability to cast spells etc. I also think about the historic treatment of women suspected of witchcraft (and whether many of them were ever really truly suspected of this, or it was just a convenient way of silencing women who refused to conform).

I also think about the patriarchy quite a bit but don't put this in the same category as the Roman Empire as it is something that directly impacts most (if not all) women every day.

Also stone circles, why they were built, what they originally looked like and whether the ideas that historians have put forward are anywhere near the truth

fruitnutz · 14/09/2023 16:05

Regency era.

TheGhostofLoganRoy · 14/09/2023 18:24

Dinosaurs.

Crispr.

Doctor Who and the greater Doctor Who extended canon (eg Torchwood but not Miracle Day because it was crap).

The Plantagenets and the royal women of that period.
Richard II and alleged sexuality.
Wars of the Roses.

JaneFarrier · 14/09/2023 18:32

TenOhSeven · 12/09/2023 22:32

This isn't a real thing, but I reckon I think about time travel more than the average person. I want to go back a hundred years and walk around my city. I plan routes, and idly wonder if I'll still be wearing my Skechers when I clamber out the time machine.

So do I, but I am a big fan of time travel writing/TV so I'm not sure this is unconnected to hobbies for me. I also have a job that is connected to the past.

JaneFarrier · 14/09/2023 18:34

My thing that I think about most is probably the nuts and bolts of storytelling, tropes, narrative devices etc. I am not a writer or a critic, just an average reader and consumer of TV and films. I would LIKE to be a writer but am not actually good at it.

JaneFarrier · 14/09/2023 18:36

JennyForeigner · 12/09/2023 22:32

I think a lot about the Byzantine Empire. And early Medieval history in general really.

But mainly Byzantium. And particularly about the clockwork trees they had that would grow up by the Emporer's throne while visitors did proskynesis, and how the palaces were filled with running water so eavesdroppers couldn't overhear the plotting but the streams were secretly connected to the Roman cisterns so that Christian terrorists could pop up in the palace after 1392 and how far Greek fire would have travelled under water before it fizzled out and...

Today's Roman Empire chat has been quite exciting for me. I feel seen.

Well, now I WANT to think more about the Byzantine Empire! Any book recommendations?