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List of rules for visitors

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WhyamIprocrastinatingonhere · 10/09/2023 17:33

My friend has just had a baby and her husband has sent out a list of rules before we visit. No visitors for at least 10 days. No advice to be given by visitors or sharing their experiences. Only stay an hour. Visits to be arranged in advance to fit around breastfeeding. There’s an Amazon gift list, if we wish. Wash your hands. Get changed if vaping or smoking. You probably won’t get to hold baby. Don’t kiss baby. Give baby back immediately to mum if crying etc etc.

I really was looking forward to going round to this friend’s house as we are super close, but now I will worry about saying the wrong thing, or offering unwanted advice. Or what if the baby is eating its hands or nuzzling, do I give it back to my friend and say it’s hungry but she will be offended because she will take that as unwanted advice.
I have 3 kids and breastfed them all, but I didn’t produce enough milk when I had the first. If someone else hadn’t told me about cluster feeding to get the milk supply going, I might have given up. Also, I could never arrange times for people to visit around breastfeeding because it just doesn’t work like that with many breastfed babies.
When I had my kids I wanted people to share my happiness and to meet my baby and have cuddles. I find it strange when people produce lists like this or don’t want people holding their babies. AIBU that this is too much? And I had a horrible Labour and then a c section with 1 baby and 1 child was in NICU for a bit.
By The way, this friend came round my house absolutely loads when my babies were small and used to stay all day and all evening. I never minded. I thought it was lovely that she took such an interest in my kids, but now she won’t let anyone even stay more than an hour or give advice, with her own baby. So now I think I might stay away and not have the same relationship with her kids as she’s had with mine, because I am too worried about doing or saying the wrong thing and I shall feel like I am not really wanted there.

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JaiynDough · 10/09/2023 17:40

I just wouldn't go. Fuck that bullshit. I wouldn't send a gift either.

fortnumsfinest · 10/09/2023 17:43

I wouldn't bother visiting, you'll be on edge the whole time. Did your friend give you any indication if there's rules before the baby was born?

JaiynDough · 10/09/2023 17:44

My sil never gave me her 2nd to hold any you didn't feel like you could play with the baby etc (the 1st was a year/18m when I met my dh).

Consequently I let my dh deal with bday and Christmas etc, which means they invariably don't get presents etc.

But what can you do, you can't pick and choose involvement.

OnAFrolicOfMyOwn · 10/09/2023 17:45

Next thing she will be charging for tickets ...

Confused19831983 · 10/09/2023 17:45

I wouldn't go, and if they ask why, be honest and say you were worried about breaking a rule. I have just had a baby and I think this is the most ridiculous thing ever. They need to calm down.

Bonniethewestie · 10/09/2023 17:46

That is absolutely bizarre. Is it the husband being weird/controlling or do you think she actually wanted that message sent out?

Did he send the message before or after they had the baby?

It actually makes me laugh that there are so many rules and even a prescribed gift list!

What did you reply? I think I would say ‘I was assuming X would just let me know when she wanted me to come round and is ready for visitors. I’ve already brought a gift for the baby but I’ll save it for another baby and have a look at your Amazon list’ 😂

JaiynDough · 10/09/2023 17:46

JaiynDough · 10/09/2023 17:44

My sil never gave me her 2nd to hold any you didn't feel like you could play with the baby etc (the 1st was a year/18m when I met my dh).

Consequently I let my dh deal with bday and Christmas etc, which means they invariably don't get presents etc.

But what can you do, you can't pick and choose involvement.

Well obviously you can but you can't be surprised when people you shun don't want to know.

WhyamIprocrastinatingonhere · 10/09/2023 17:46

Not just me then. I wondered if this was a normal thing and most people were like this.

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Privatelyliving · 10/09/2023 17:47

I'd be worried for my friend. Her husband has sent that out because of her stress levels. I'd call him and see if they're OK, especially if as you say you're "super close". Why would your first response be to take offence?

Hereforsummer · 10/09/2023 17:47

That is a bizarre list. I'd be steering well clear until they are able to chill out a bit! Its a baby, not a museum exhibit.

hdbs17 · 10/09/2023 17:48

Very, very weird. I wouldn't be going.

It's a baby - yes they're precious but they aren't gold plated. I find it very weird when people set rules. Don't kiss the baby and wash your hands before holding - ok those I get, fairly common sense. But having to list out rules to people - I just wouldn't bother with them tbh.

WhyamIprocrastinatingonhere · 10/09/2023 17:49

That’s what I want to say. I mean isn’t that what people do? Just text and say when can I visit? Maybe her husband is driving it?

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Privatelyliving · 10/09/2023 17:49

I can't believe the number of people saying steer well clear of a "super close" friend because of this, rather than being concerned.

Notagains · 10/09/2023 17:49

That is extremely odd. I wouldn't visit.
Is this her husband being extremely controlling though rather than her?
I would just text her to congratulate her and say she knows where you are if she needs you, wants to talk about breastfeeding etc.
Then leave it at that.

Souporsoup · 10/09/2023 17:50

There's less rules to visit prisoners.

WhyamIprocrastinatingonhere · 10/09/2023 17:50

Notagains · 10/09/2023 17:49

That is extremely odd. I wouldn't visit.
Is this her husband being extremely controlling though rather than her?
I would just text her to congratulate her and say she knows where you are if she needs you, wants to talk about breastfeeding etc.
Then leave it at that.

Yes that’s a good one. But I worry even the comment about breastfeeding will be taken the wrong way.

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DoubleTequilaSunrise · 10/09/2023 17:51

JaiynDough · 10/09/2023 17:40

I just wouldn't go. Fuck that bullshit. I wouldn't send a gift either.

why no gift?

It sounds such a dramatic overkill, I wouldn't want to come either in the first weeks, but if they are friends, why no gift?

I would also cut them some slack. We heard so many horror stories about new mums being treated like second class citizens and visitors showing no respect whatsoever because they demand a "cuddle" with the baby, I have more respect for a husband putting his foot down to protect his wife than someone who ignore her feelings and needs.

DinnaeFashYersel · 10/09/2023 17:51

I wouldn't go.

Send a card and wait till the PFB stage passes.

😳😳😳

WimpoleHat · 10/09/2023 17:52

I wouldn't go, and if they ask why, be honest and say you were worried about breaking a rule.

Absolutely! Who does he think he is…..? He needs a good dose of reality (and good manners!).

DoesNotPlayWellWithIdiots · 10/09/2023 17:53

I'd ask them when it would be convenient to arrange a viewing and whether they'd prefer gold, frankinsence or myrrh as a gift?
Actually I just wouldn't bother visiting. Doesn't seem much point if you can't even have a free flowing conversation 😕

DoubleTequilaSunrise · 10/09/2023 17:53

JaiynDough · 10/09/2023 17:46

Well obviously you can but you can't be surprised when people you shun don't want to know.

it's a bit sad when grown-up get miffed and offended so easily. Respect the mother, give her the space she needs, sulking and refusing to see the child after is just stupid. That attitude shows why the parents push the visitors away in the first place.

You don't need to be all over a baby to bond with them, especially when they are growing up.

Notagains · 10/09/2023 17:54

WhyamIprocrastinatingonhere · 10/09/2023 17:50

Yes that’s a good one. But I worry even the comment about breastfeeding will be taken the wrong way.

Perhaps leave that out then and just say she knows where you are your phone /number if she needs anything

WhyamIprocrastinatingonhere · 10/09/2023 17:54

Privatelyliving · 10/09/2023 17:47

I'd be worried for my friend. Her husband has sent that out because of her stress levels. I'd call him and see if they're OK, especially if as you say you're "super close". Why would your first response be to take offence?

I haven’t taken offence but I will be worried about doing or saying the wrong thing. It is very strange behaviour from my friend and I think you might be right that maybe they are feeling a bit overwhelmed. But by asking not to give advice, it makes it hard to know what to say.

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Shinyandnew1 · 10/09/2023 17:54

Do you think this is your good friend’s rules or the husband’s?

lemonyellows · 10/09/2023 17:54

Holy moly. So they want the Amazon vouchers but not their friends or family. Seriously, what is wrong with people!!