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AIBU to marry for some financial security for me and the children?

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foolsgolddigger · 18/08/2023 10:44

Long-time user but with a new account, as the matter is a bit sensitive.

I am a nearly-40 single mother of two young children, with no maintenance from their father (long story, he is reasonably well off, but it is cleverly arranged so the official maintenance is nil). He left when the children were toddler / newborn age.

I have a good, but quite stressful and long-hours career, and a reasonable income. The income does not stretch far in London though (rent north of £2K, childcare north of £1K + everything else on top), and my job does not exist outside London. I don't get any help from the government for anything apart from the 25% single person council tax discount, before everyone jumps on. I am solvent and not in debt, but that's about it. Some months end in the "red" - a school trip or unexpected dental expense usually have to go on credit. I didn't have a holiday (not an exotic holiday, but even a break from work) for 8 years. No pension or savings.

Recently I got closer with a guy I dated in my early 20s (he is a few years older than me, mid-40s). For him, I am (as strange as it sounds for me) "the one who got away", and he apparently carried very strong romantic feelings for me through the years. He has never been married or in a long-term relationship, and never moved out of his parental home. We stayed friends, but more of a "text once a month" friends - not surprisingly, as we are in different countries (he lives back in our home country, and I moved to the UK). I have very warm and friendly feelings for him, somewhat nostalgic, but that's it. He's a great guy and a good friend, but there is absolutely zero romantic or sexual attraction from my side.

He proposed to me last week and I asked for some time to think. And - I am very ashamed to admit - one of the main factors on the "pros" side was to have a second income in the house. I have never been materialistic (quite opposite - very bookish, nerdy and idealistic), so it took me by surprise, and I started feeling a bit disgusted about myself. He is not wealthy, but has a good freelance income (tech sector), roughly at the same level as me. It would be a massive change to our quality of life though, and will open some opportunities to my children that I am currently not able to cover. For clarity, I do not mean him paying for my children, but even just sharing normal living expenses of a couple would make such a difference - and I could start contributing to my own pension and saving.

I am not attractive at all and has never been asked out in my life or visible to men, so it is not a "plenty of fish in the sea" scenario. It is very unusual for me to feel loved and adored to this level, and I feel really bad that I cannot offer the same intensity of feelings in return. If I could electrocute my brain and fall in love with him, I'd do it immediately without a second thought. I think he is aware - he told me he loved me multiple times, but I did not say it back.

Do you think it could work if I "settle"? "Settle" is probably not the right word here, as I am not really looking for other options now, and my realistic expectation prior to reconnecting with him was that I would be single for life.

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smartiesneberhadtheanswer · 18/08/2023 10:48

If you truly believe you'll make each other happy, even if it's not for the usual reasons, then I don't see why you wouldn't marry him.

Romantic love fades, you have a friendship, that counts.

BlueMoe · 18/08/2023 10:49

How recent a thing is this? Have the kids even met him?

What if it went tits up in 5 years.

In principle I think it’s OK, but you have a lot more thinking to do.

troubleanstrife · 18/08/2023 10:50

You should only marry him for his money if he is fully aware that it is a factor in your decision. Don’t lie and say you’re marrying him only for love if it isn't true.

Findyourneutralspace · 18/08/2023 10:50

I can understand your thought process - I’m a single mum in similar circumstances and it’s very hard, but I think it would be seriously unwise to accept his proposal.
Has he even met your children? Bringing a new partner into their lives as a permanent fixture is a huge deal and a strain on even the happiest of in-love couples. You don’t sound like you’ve spent nearly enough time with each other in your present circumstances to make such a life changing decision.

CrapBucket · 18/08/2023 10:53

Don’t mistake knowing someone for a long time as knowing them well. There are potential red flags all over this.

Are you actually dating each other at the moment? I would start there and see how it goes. But don’t marry him at this point!!

TheHolyGrailSpeaks · 18/08/2023 10:54

Can you bear to be intimate with him? If so, I would do it in those circs.

troubleanstrife · 18/08/2023 10:56

Also it sounds like he still lives with his parents overseas?
Is the plan that he would come and live with you in the UK?

Why not just let him come be your lodger / housemate. I have seen stranger setups! If it works? Less dishonest than marrying him, you’ll still share housing cost, he’ll get to enjoy your company every day.

If that doesn’t work, marriage surely won’t either. And divorce is terribly expensive.

RaininSummer · 18/08/2023 10:56

Do you honestly think that you could build a happy life with him or would the lack of attraction cause problems? Try to imagine your instinctive response if he gets close physically . Is it positive? Does this matter to him.

Hoppinggreen · 18/08/2023 10:56

I am sure plenty of people will say you should only marry for passionate love and you are being mercenary.
However, in yous shoes I would seriously consider it - but only after living together to see if it worked.
Presumably you will be having sex with him so you need to want to do that

BIossomtoes · 18/08/2023 10:56

smartiesneberhadtheanswer · 18/08/2023 10:48

If you truly believe you'll make each other happy, even if it's not for the usual reasons, then I don't see why you wouldn't marry him.

Romantic love fades, you have a friendship, that counts.

This. Most people discover in the end that they’ve settled however it starts out.

CalistoNoSolo · 18/08/2023 10:59

No. Absolutely, 100% not. This is a terrible idea. He has an idealised version of you in his head. He will want sex. He will guaranteed become unhappy and resentful when you don't reciprocate his desire and feelings and don't behave how his idealised version of you should behave. You are going to put your children in a vulnerable position and this also may negatively affect your own financial security. All in all it's a dreadful idea.

foolsgolddigger · 18/08/2023 10:59

BlueMoe · 18/08/2023 10:49

How recent a thing is this? Have the kids even met him?

What if it went tits up in 5 years.

In principle I think it’s OK, but you have a lot more thinking to do.

We've properly reconnected during covid (remotely) and have been spending time together once lockdowns were lifted (so for around 2 years in person). He usually comes (flies in) to stay with me when the children are with their dad, probably once every 2 months on average. The children met him a few times, but outside of the house (he stays in an airbnb then, it usually was on an emergency basis when the children's father changed his mind at the last minute).

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SavingsVCurrent · 18/08/2023 11:01

Are you even sexually attracted to him? How would you feel about having sex with him?

foolsgolddigger · 18/08/2023 11:01

TheHolyGrailSpeaks · 18/08/2023 10:54

Can you bear to be intimate with him? If so, I would do it in those circs.

Yes, I can, but being brutally honest - it is not something I would initiate.

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Papernotplastic · 18/08/2023 11:02

Someone who has never had a long term relationship and has never moved out of his parents house. He’s mid 40s. You have no idea what he would be like to live with. He’s never lived with another unrelated adult.

Eitr · 18/08/2023 11:02

It doesn't sound like you have been together that long. Even though you know him from earlier on in your life, do you really know him?

You may not have dealt with the break up of your last relationship yet. For him to want to marry you so soon has red flags all over it for me. Be careful you don't get yourself into the same situation you did previously. Divorces are so costly and painful and more so with kids. I'm speaking from experience. I was left when my kids were 1 and 3 and I was very vulnerable for many years after, although I'm sure not everyone would be like me.

If he truly cares for you he will be happy building up a friendship that may develop into more over time in my opinion.

I'm sure marriages of convenience can work well but I think you have to really know and trust the person even so.

foolsgolddigger · 18/08/2023 11:02

Hoppinggreen · 18/08/2023 10:56

I am sure plenty of people will say you should only marry for passionate love and you are being mercenary.
However, in yous shoes I would seriously consider it - but only after living together to see if it worked.
Presumably you will be having sex with him so you need to want to do that

I was probably not clear in my OP, we are of course having sex now when we see each other.

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catsnhats11 · 18/08/2023 11:03

Are you actually in a relationship? It sounds like you are friends and nothing romantic has happened, so that's really odd to suddenly get a proposal... what is in in for him I wonder?

But no personally I wouldn't marry him or anyone in these circumstances, but it seems a lot of people disagree so maybe?.

CherryPieMadness · 18/08/2023 11:03

I would give this relationship more time but it sounds pretty positive. I think romantic feelings can grow, and someone supporting you financially is part of a secure basis for feelings. I think in a way you are clouding your decision by focusing too much on whether to take his finances into account, of course it matters.

More important though is how he fits in with your kids, it’s hard being in a step family. How you feel when you are with him. Whether you have common future goals. Give it a chance and take it slowly.

SavingsVCurrent · 18/08/2023 11:04

What country is he from? Does he have any rights to settle in the uk?
If not, what if he marries you to get into the country and then buggers off?

talknomore · 18/08/2023 11:04

How old are your kids? Do they like him?

foolsgolddigger · 18/08/2023 11:04

SavingsVCurrent · 18/08/2023 11:01

Are you even sexually attracted to him? How would you feel about having sex with him?

Not sexually attracted at all. He is a good looking guy, it is me who is probably very shallow in this case.

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Mummysgogetter · 18/08/2023 11:06

smartiesneberhadtheanswer · 18/08/2023 10:48

If you truly believe you'll make each other happy, even if it's not for the usual reasons, then I don't see why you wouldn't marry him.

Romantic love fades, you have a friendship, that counts.

This ^^ There will be people on here rushing on to tell you that love without sexual attraction is a sham-marriage, but love is a verb, not a noun. It is active. Love is not just feelings of passion and romance. It is behavior. I think you can grow to love someone through your actions and vice versa.

SavingsVCurrent · 18/08/2023 11:07

foolsgolddigger · 18/08/2023 11:04

Not sexually attracted at all. He is a good looking guy, it is me who is probably very shallow in this case.

Why are you currently having sex with him then?? This makes no sense!

foolsgolddigger · 18/08/2023 11:07

SavingsVCurrent · 18/08/2023 11:04

What country is he from? Does he have any rights to settle in the uk?
If not, what if he marries you to get into the country and then buggers off?

He is from the same country as me (let's call it a "second world" country). Why exactly would he do that? He has an infinitely better standard of life where he is now, earns his money as a freelance software developer on the global job market, and with a sub 10% tax rate.

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