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AIBU to marry for some financial security for me and the children?

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foolsgolddigger · 18/08/2023 10:44

Long-time user but with a new account, as the matter is a bit sensitive.

I am a nearly-40 single mother of two young children, with no maintenance from their father (long story, he is reasonably well off, but it is cleverly arranged so the official maintenance is nil). He left when the children were toddler / newborn age.

I have a good, but quite stressful and long-hours career, and a reasonable income. The income does not stretch far in London though (rent north of £2K, childcare north of £1K + everything else on top), and my job does not exist outside London. I don't get any help from the government for anything apart from the 25% single person council tax discount, before everyone jumps on. I am solvent and not in debt, but that's about it. Some months end in the "red" - a school trip or unexpected dental expense usually have to go on credit. I didn't have a holiday (not an exotic holiday, but even a break from work) for 8 years. No pension or savings.

Recently I got closer with a guy I dated in my early 20s (he is a few years older than me, mid-40s). For him, I am (as strange as it sounds for me) "the one who got away", and he apparently carried very strong romantic feelings for me through the years. He has never been married or in a long-term relationship, and never moved out of his parental home. We stayed friends, but more of a "text once a month" friends - not surprisingly, as we are in different countries (he lives back in our home country, and I moved to the UK). I have very warm and friendly feelings for him, somewhat nostalgic, but that's it. He's a great guy and a good friend, but there is absolutely zero romantic or sexual attraction from my side.

He proposed to me last week and I asked for some time to think. And - I am very ashamed to admit - one of the main factors on the "pros" side was to have a second income in the house. I have never been materialistic (quite opposite - very bookish, nerdy and idealistic), so it took me by surprise, and I started feeling a bit disgusted about myself. He is not wealthy, but has a good freelance income (tech sector), roughly at the same level as me. It would be a massive change to our quality of life though, and will open some opportunities to my children that I am currently not able to cover. For clarity, I do not mean him paying for my children, but even just sharing normal living expenses of a couple would make such a difference - and I could start contributing to my own pension and saving.

I am not attractive at all and has never been asked out in my life or visible to men, so it is not a "plenty of fish in the sea" scenario. It is very unusual for me to feel loved and adored to this level, and I feel really bad that I cannot offer the same intensity of feelings in return. If I could electrocute my brain and fall in love with him, I'd do it immediately without a second thought. I think he is aware - he told me he loved me multiple times, but I did not say it back.

Do you think it could work if I "settle"? "Settle" is probably not the right word here, as I am not really looking for other options now, and my realistic expectation prior to reconnecting with him was that I would be single for life.

OP posts:
AnotherCountryMummy · 18/08/2023 11:46

If you do it, then you really should be honest with him about your motives.

Imagine how you'd feel if you found out that your husband married you for money and wasn't in love or even attracted to you.

catsnhats11 · 18/08/2023 11:47

I can't believe the number of people supporting this tbh, maybe I'm the naïve one?!

I'm in my 40s, live alone and never married, I couldn't bear the thought of sharing my home and my life with someone I don't love.

And so many posts I read on MN say LTB for the silliest thing and yet here so much encouragement to STAY when they don't love each other and its basically a relationship of convenience (which is likely to feel very INconvenient further down the line if the OP meets someone she actually does want to be with).

Pinkdelight3 · 18/08/2023 11:47

And if his dream woman is someone who doesn't even fancy him, he's deeply fucked up.

backtogrey · 18/08/2023 11:48

smartiesneberhadtheanswer · 18/08/2023 10:48

If you truly believe you'll make each other happy, even if it's not for the usual reasons, then I don't see why you wouldn't marry him.

Romantic love fades, you have a friendship, that counts.

In my experience, romantic love grows but infactuation fades.

ClematisBlue49 · 18/08/2023 11:50

Looking at the practicalities, I'd ask yourself how you would feel if his freelance income suddenly dried up. You'd end up supporting him as well as your kids, and could be worse off after a divorce. And what if you meet a better prospect? Will you divorce and marry someone else for a better lifestyle? Sorry to sound harsh, but I think you need to be very honest with yourself, and if this is really about financial security, look at every potential scenario.

But if it's more about emotional insecurity - feeling unattractive etc., then you need to work through those issues first.

JenWillsiam · 18/08/2023 11:50

foolsgolddigger · 18/08/2023 10:59

We've properly reconnected during covid (remotely) and have been spending time together once lockdowns were lifted (so for around 2 years in person). He usually comes (flies in) to stay with me when the children are with their dad, probably once every 2 months on average. The children met him a few times, but outside of the house (he stays in an airbnb then, it usually was on an emergency basis when the children's father changed his mind at the last minute).

My answer is no purely based on this. You absolutely cannot marry a man who hasn’t spent significant time with your children.

Tippley · 18/08/2023 11:50

People marry for all sorts of reasons and I think that's fine as long as both are on the same page, but this sounds beyond desperate and like an awful decision.

Badbadbunny · 18/08/2023 11:50

CalistoNoSolo · 18/08/2023 11:18

So many people on this thread who would marry for money and see nothing wrong with doing so. How depressing.

Not as bad as people only marrying for sexual attraction, who often clearly don't even like their spouse and aren't "friends".

I'd say friendship, companionship, etc is just as important, if not more, than sexual attraction.

After all, it's what most relationships will end up being once the "excitement" of the sex has faded.

Highdaysandholidays1 · 18/08/2023 11:50

The OP doesn't romantically love him or is infatuated with him, she doesn't even fancy him, it's just nice to have someone interested and appreciative. I don't think it's enough for marriage, myself, I suspect when the novelty of being his 'dream woman' wears off for both him and you, the resulting mess will be awful.

nably · 18/08/2023 11:50

Be careful what you wish for... financial security is great but people can also lose their jobs. My ex was financially secure etc etc. lost his job then I was the sole breadwinner which put extra pressure on and he told me he 'couldn't get a job with the same money' so didn't bother.

If this guy is aware that you are not romantically interested, it seems odd to me if he marries in the hope that you fall in love with him. Also, I dont think I could sleep with someone I don't fancy just for the financial gain.

LetMeEnfoldYou · 18/08/2023 11:51

This is the equivalent of a single dad marrying a woman who loves him just so he has a housekeeper.

It's really wrong. Bringing a new 'dad' into your kids lives when it's incredibly likely to end badly...just no.

foolsgolddigger · 18/08/2023 11:52

5128gap · 18/08/2023 11:45

You're absolutely right that pooling expenses with another adult is an excellent way to have more money, and if you have no prospect of increasing your wealth independently, perhaps your best option. Ideally you would do this with a person who ticked all your relationship boxes as well but that's not possible for everyone.
I think its important to be realistic about your prospects before you 'settle'.
You may be right you won't get a more suitable opportunity, but equally you may have a skewed perspective based on the fact you've not had opportunities to meet men, or been proactive in looking for a partner.
These arrangements can be better than nothing, but once you commit to them you're closing the door on other possibilities. Which is all well and good if no other possibilities present themselves. The problems will start of you accidentally encounter Mr Righter at a later date.

Well... In the 6 years that I am single I have not been asked out, or even talked to by a man socially outside the work context. I estimate my chances of building another relationship from scratch, with all the upfront investment of time and effort required, as negligible. Here at least I have a solid friendship foundation already, is it really wise to throw it away?

OP posts:
BHRK · 18/08/2023 11:52

Yes I would live with him but might not marry just yet. Love can grow, attraction can grow. And financial stability, holidays and opportunities can go a LONG way to a happy life

5128gap · 18/08/2023 11:53

AnotherCountryMummy · 18/08/2023 11:46

If you do it, then you really should be honest with him about your motives.

Imagine how you'd feel if you found out that your husband married you for money and wasn't in love or even attracted to you.

A lot worse than you'd feel in the same scenario of he kept other to himself and you were non the wiser I'd imagine.

Highdaysandholidays1 · 18/08/2023 11:53

I suspect the guy doesn't know the OP isn't romantically interested at least on some level, she invites him over from abroad, they spend time together, and they have sex. How's he to know that she's flattered, likes his money and attention, but doesn't find him attractive?

Remember OP, as well as his 'dream woman' you are also his ticket away from his mum and out of his home country to a UK passport (or visa at least). Perhaps you are all kinds of dreams tangled into one.

Highdaysandholidays1 · 18/08/2023 11:56

I haven't been 'asked out' from scratch in the 4 years I've been alone. Getting dates is about going out, meeting new people, joining things, chatting to people, trying dating apps, it's not about people approaching you out of nowhere. If you haven't tried to do these things, and probably you couldn't as your children were little, then you can't say no-one will be interested in you. Also, your children will get older and eventually leave home, so the opportunities to meet someone increase at that point. I'm not saying they are endless, I'm saying that your current actions won't have delivered a new partner, but that doesn't mean it's this guy or no-one forever...

Comedycook · 18/08/2023 11:57

Well I can see it maybe a sensible move. Quite honestly I think a lot of women would be in better situations if they thought with their head rather than their heart loins ! You are a single mum in your forties...in the nicest possible way I don't think you have the luxury of waiting for the perfect romance.

AlwaysJumping · 18/08/2023 11:58

If the plan is for him to come over here and live separately for a year with an engagement to ease into things, then meh I would give it a go! You can see if that spark is there and what he will be like living with long term. You won’t be married yet and can end things. You have the kind of relationship people hope for once the spark goes

StillWantingADog · 18/08/2023 11:58

I don't think you are being unreasonable at all to be contemplating this. However I think you need to be 100% honest with the guy about your feelings on the matter, as difficult as that might be.

Does he want to contribute financially to bringing up children he's barely met? That is another key question.

I suspect that there are some cultural factors at play at both sides here too which are likely important.

Certainly, moving him to London (but not yet co-habiting) would appear to be the next step, not marriage. I certainly wouldn't be marrying him just yet.

Tinklyheadtilt · 18/08/2023 11:59

Forget the money side. The guy is mid 40s and lives at home. Can you honestly see him doing even the bare minimum is being a Step Dad?

I can see a thread in 2 years time - "DP doesn't know how to do washing". Don't do this.

erinaceus · 18/08/2023 11:59

This does not sound like a good idea.

Is there scope for you to increase your income? The energy that this potential relationship would sap from you would surely be better invested in your career.

foolsgolddigger · 18/08/2023 12:00

Highdaysandholidays1 · 18/08/2023 11:53

I suspect the guy doesn't know the OP isn't romantically interested at least on some level, she invites him over from abroad, they spend time together, and they have sex. How's he to know that she's flattered, likes his money and attention, but doesn't find him attractive?

Remember OP, as well as his 'dream woman' you are also his ticket away from his mum and out of his home country to a UK passport (or visa at least). Perhaps you are all kinds of dreams tangled into one.

I think he is aware - I never made any promises, or told him I love him. We discussed the situation once and I said that for me it is more of a "friends with benefits" situation, only that the "friendship" component is genuine and a big part of it too. I am not trying to mislead him, but I am probably not 100% honest either. If not for the financial side, I'd prefer to stay put as it is.

He is 100% not after a UK passport, he is not a big fan of the country and his ideal solution would be that we live either back in our home country, or somewhere with a better standard of life. I can't do it for another decade because of the children (the father is British and lives here), so UK it is.

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SpaceRaiders · 18/08/2023 12:00

Someone who has never had a long term relationship and has never moved out of his parents house. He’s mid 40s. You have no idea what he would be like to live with. He’s never lived with another unrelated adult.

Not to mention lived with a child! I’d be very wary of idealising any relationship which hasn’t stood the test of time especially when they’re children involved.

Neurotic90 · 18/08/2023 12:01

I don't think situations like this were particularly unusual until quite recently, and providing you respect each other there's nothing wrong with it.
I'd definitely want him to build more of a relationship with your children before accepting a proposal though.

Thelonelygiraffe · 18/08/2023 12:01

You know, all this could be avoided if we had a system in place where men were forced to pay 50% off the cost of bringing up their children. The current system is completely unfair.

I'd have massive reservations, op, mainly about being expected to have sex for the rest of my life with a man I don't find sexually attractive.

You're prostituting yourself. And I think that will get harder to deal with over time, not easier.

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