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Help me do this pl - splitting holiday villa costs

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captainmarvella · 06/08/2023 07:25

Morning. Planning a landmark event celebration next year in pool villa in a very sought after destination spot.

Bedroom 1 - DH & I
Bedroom 2 - Best Friend and her DH
Bedroom 3 - Friend's teenaged kids (2)
Bedroom 4 - Friend's BIL & his DP
Bedroom 5 - Friend's BIL's adult child

Villa rental is 3000$ / week. Friend has suggested that each family pays 1000$.

I feel grumpy that the split is a threeway when my DH and I will use only one bedroom. But DH says not to make a fuss as it is a long awaited celebratory holiday and by being tight we will cast a shadow over the happy planning stage (we are not rich AT ALL but a bit more financially secure than my friend's or her BIL's family)

AIBU in thinking that I should be paying less for the villa rental.

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Quitelikeacatslife · 06/08/2023 09:23

As the adults will get the nicer rooms I'd go with 3 way split. However this could be great springboard to say, "even though there is just 2 of us we are happy to pay 1/3 of villa, but can all other costs once we are there be per person?" You can do a kitty or pre load a credit card based on per person input . Teenagers eat and drink a lot , as much if not more than adults.

MaggieFS · 06/08/2023 09:24

I would say "happy to pay 1/3 for the villa cost but just want to check we won't be splitting all other costs in three given there's only two of us?".

TimeIhadaNameChange · 06/08/2023 09:24

I'm waiting for her to reply "No need for a calculator, dividing by 3 is easy enough 😄😙"

Glad you've messaged her before things got out of hand.

Poppyblush · 06/08/2023 09:25

I could suck to the accommodation but would not be prepared to split food and other stuff 3 ways.

captainmarvella · 06/08/2023 09:26

AnotherEmma · 06/08/2023 09:18

Do any of the rooms have en suite bathrooms while the others would be shared bathrooms? That would be a factor.

All rooms being equal (which I doubt they are) I would split half the cost by room and half by person. So $166 per person plus $300 per room. That means the couples pay $632, the family of 4 (with 2 teenagers) pays $1264, and the adult child pays $466 - although their parents might choose to subsidise them.

3 double bedrooms with en suite, balconies and scenic view. All in the first floor.

one bedroom with bunk beds. Not ensuite. No balcony, but window opens to the cobbled pathway below.

One bedroom with a single bed. Not ensuite. No balcony, small window with a view of inner courtyard.

The teens and the adult child have a (spacious) common bathroom in the ground floor, that they will share.

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MerryMarigold · 06/08/2023 09:28

Glad you messaged but considering someone put the effort into finding a really nice villa, not sure they will go for a hotel. It will be thousands more as you'll need to eat out all the time too.

I think you should have just said, how about adults count for 1 and kids for half? And sent revised costs.

SummerWhisper · 06/08/2023 09:29

As there will be 5 rooms, the fairest split is by fifths, so:

£600 OP and DH
£1200 Friend, her DH and 2 kids
£1200 BIL, his partner and their child

Bills could also be split by fifths as this is proportionate. If you want to alleviate a small amount of the cost, you could treat everybody to an activity or pay the whole bill for one meal. If friend is a true friend, she will be on board with this.

AnotherEmma · 06/08/2023 09:30

captainmarvella · 06/08/2023 07:46

the adults rooms all have en suite
the kids rooms don't, they have to use the common bathroom in the living space

Sorry I had missed this and kept asking when you'd already answered Blush

How about $500 per double room with ensuite, $300 per room without ensuite, plus another $100 per person?

Bedroom 1 - DH & I $700
Bedroom 2 - Best Friend and her DH $700
Bedroom 3 - Friend's teenaged kids (2) $500
Bedroom 4 - Friend's BIL & his DP $700
Bedroom 5 - Friend's BIL's adult child $400

user1492757084 · 06/08/2023 09:33

Do you all get our own bathroom?
If you are all paying the 1000, you should have your own bathroom if that is possible.

Twyford · 06/08/2023 09:35

captainmarvella · 06/08/2023 09:08

Thanks for everyone who answered, I could not reply each one of you but this is all such good advice. As we are still in the discussion stage, I am going to private message my friend this:

"dear friend, villa rental seems complicated, to split per family. It will become a head banger if every meal we need to bring out the calculator and keep doing the math. Shall we look for a half board hotel as Option B? So many things will get easier. We can request interconnecting rooms for the kids and hotels usually have shuttles, more entertainment options. what do you think?"

Going to see how she replies. If she says okay but can we find a good hotel in our budget, then I will help her to plan with that budget and if its a great hotel i don't mind subsidising it a bit

If she says no we prefer villa, then I will tell her what a few others have advised - ask her as non confrontationally as possible what is going to be the food and bills for the week, are they going to be split three ways too.

If you haven't already sent that, don't. Suggesting that division by three is complicated just makes you sound a bit bonkers plus, as people have said, going to a hotel will be much more expensive - and it sounds as if the villa she's found is lovely. I think it's better so say that the three way split isn't really fair and suggest a fairer split that recognises that the children's rooms are inferior to the others.

Therealjudgejudy · 06/08/2023 09:37

Id stick with the Villa, but make sure to say that meals out, shopping should be split fairly.

Otherwise you will be subsidising them all week

TENDTOprocrastinate · 06/08/2023 09:39

Oh for God sake, stop overthinking it. Split the villa 3 ways. The kids rooms aren’t as nice as the adult rooms.

Ask to split the grocery food shopping per person.
Ask to split the restaurant bill per family (do this when ordering to make it easier for the waiter)

job done.

coodawoodashooda · 06/08/2023 09:41

GabriellaMontez · 06/08/2023 07:35

Will you be splitting every meal/drinks bill/ shopping bill like this?!!

She's a CF.

Yeah. I could handle one hit but not a holiday of subsidising everyone.

gettingolderbutcooler · 06/08/2023 09:42

I would think of it this way:
Is £1000 a good deal for you? I mean, would you be happy if you paid this much for a holiday like this off your own bat? If do, pay the money.

But if you would not have paid £1000- or it's too much for your budget- then tell them that it's too expensive for you this way.

Marwoodsbigbreak · 06/08/2023 09:43

This situation would spoil the holiday for me.

tictactoe1234 · 06/08/2023 09:43

Before I'd even read the whole post I was thinking a cost per room

I still think that now

coodawoodashooda · 06/08/2023 09:44

calmcoco · 06/08/2023 08:09

I think you should read this back.

I was going to say I'd split 3 ways before this update but this is also important info as to why they were invited.

I agree with your DH. Sometimes being a people pleaser is a good thing, it means you get along with people and have nice times.

Yeah. This is true

AnotherEmma · 06/08/2023 09:44

Twyford · 06/08/2023 09:35

If you haven't already sent that, don't. Suggesting that division by three is complicated just makes you sound a bit bonkers plus, as people have said, going to a hotel will be much more expensive - and it sounds as if the villa she's found is lovely. I think it's better so say that the three way split isn't really fair and suggest a fairer split that recognises that the children's rooms are inferior to the others.

Agree with this.

Also agree with PP's suggestion of a kitty for the meals, but with $100 contribution per adult and €60 per teenager. Assuming the teenagers (and I include the 19yo) won't be drinking alcohol with the meals if you're going to the US.

BodegaSushi · 06/08/2023 09:46

Hufflepods · 06/08/2023 07:39

For family and and close friends I would just split it 3 ways. It all balances out with decent people imo. I couldn’t imagine complaining about this. It’s like wanting a £30 discount for a smaller room.

Expect its £400

lionsleepstonight · 06/08/2023 09:55

I'd take the hit on the 3 way split as the adults are getting equal rooms and the kids rooms are inferior.

However, you do need to raise how the rest of the expenses will be split before you go, otherwise you're going to inwardly seeth every time a bill is split 3 ways.

Seasideanticscanleadtosandybuckets · 06/08/2023 09:57

We rent a huge cottage. We divide the cost by employed adults.... The ones with no dc pay a food contribution (£10 per day) also then me and dh pay the rest as we have dc.. We never eat out as no real opportunity.. Each pay own ferry costs. Worked out well for a decade!

andweallsingalong · 06/08/2023 09:57

I think I'd suck it up for the villa given its a good price and the "kids" have lesser rooms, but before paying I would be clear that's only if meals and shopping are split per eater.

Oblomov23 · 06/08/2023 10:02

The whole thing is a minefield!

Paq · 06/08/2023 10:04

Is it worth souring a friendship for a couple of hundred dollars?

captainmarvella · 06/08/2023 10:19

Quitelikeacatslife · 06/08/2023 09:23

As the adults will get the nicer rooms I'd go with 3 way split. However this could be great springboard to say, "even though there is just 2 of us we are happy to pay 1/3 of villa, but can all other costs once we are there be per person?" You can do a kitty or pre load a credit card based on per person input . Teenagers eat and drink a lot , as much if not more than adults.

Friend has replied that hotels are out, as her BIL's DP and child both feel overwhelmed at the thought of a hotel and want the privacy of a villa.

I feel for them, as I am neurodivergent and often shun crowds. I and DH have decided to pay 1/3rd of the villa as friend has suggested in the common whatsapp group. Now it's my turn to write a message asking friend privately about food arrangements and bills.

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