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To immediately remove my child from childminder

214 replies

Ohriley · 21/07/2023 16:17

My child has been going to a childminder for 2 years - with 2 days a week at a preschool and the remainder with her. I don't like her at all, she's becoming more and more unhinged in how she deals with me - however I've kept them with her because they enjoy their time there and have nothing negative to say.

This week, my child has told me that they're sometimes left alone in the car while the childminder goes to the shop. They're not one for making up stories.

They start school in September so only 6 weeks to go and I can scrabble together alternative care until then.

Would you upset your child's routine for your own sanity / the safety issue or would you stick it out for a further 6 weeks?

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adriftinadenofvipers · 23/07/2023 19:27

@Ninalon that's awful, and exactly the reason I shied away from reporting my POS childminder. She was vicious and perfectly capable of making up lies and I was afraid to. I gave her notice but had to remove my children sooner as she was being so horrible to them, like making them drink water while the other mindees got juice, etc!!

Ninalon · 23/07/2023 19:28

I feel the same way, she only took my son to nursery and the odd morning because I’d had a bad accident and ended up with a spinal injury. I wanted my son to mix rather then be trapped in the house with me. All the time she was hitting him and punching him. I felt so awful and betrayed. I tried to warn other mums about her behaviour but she told Terrible lies about me she even reported me to social services because I made a formal complaint about her. All I can say is always trust your gut.

adriftinadenofvipers · 23/07/2023 19:31

Yamatoosogani · 23/07/2023 09:42

My point is that childminders are usually considered a less skiled job, and you get what you pay for in terms of their composition.

I gave up my career for my family to avoid that problem.

Well bully for you.

adriftinadenofvipers · 23/07/2023 19:32

Ninalon · 23/07/2023 19:28

I feel the same way, she only took my son to nursery and the odd morning because I’d had a bad accident and ended up with a spinal injury. I wanted my son to mix rather then be trapped in the house with me. All the time she was hitting him and punching him. I felt so awful and betrayed. I tried to warn other mums about her behaviour but she told Terrible lies about me she even reported me to social services because I made a formal complaint about her. All I can say is always trust your gut.

I don't know how you kept your hands off her, and I have never hit anyone in my life!

TG he wasn't there much.

Ninalon · 24/07/2023 00:43

I’m sorry that’s not true at all. I started nannying when I was just 14 years old I was also studying fine art and used the wage to pay for my education and save.
I then decided I loved working with children and I decided to get childcare and do first aid and then did childcare development and education. I did every course I could including the Triple p babies to toddlers. 5 -12 and teen years.
When I was a nanny I made sure everything in the house also got done. I worked my socks off for each family but I never had to look for work because I had a schedule and worked for the whole area. If you choose childcare it really is a blessing and a honour that parents leave their precious babies in your care. I mainly worked for teachers and social workers and CEO. They all treated me like one of the family I never lived in but I was there to get the children up at 7.30 and they’d be bathed and ready for bed by 7 pm. Plus I looked after their family pets two huge dogs that I also walked. Just because you choose childcare doesn’t mean you’ve not got a college /university education. Some people choose childcare because they love children. It really is such a thrill when a child comes running up to you so excited over the coming holidays and your helping them make tree decorations for their mum’s and dad’s. When they hug you and are so excited for their next story time adventure. What I love about children is how they learn so fast and they have such imaginations. I really miss it all😓
yes I saw so many people that shouldn’t be allowed to look after animal let alone a baby. Which I tried to do something about, this nanny would come over for a coffee morning that I’d arrange for a play date both babies were 8 month old but the baby I was taking care of could sit unsupported but I still always made sure there was support for her and we’d play and sing nursery rhymes and the other little boy really struggled to sit up. I remember him falling back and smashing his little head on the toys. Instead of comforting the little boy she would shout get up you fat get. I couldn’t believe how she treated him. This also wasn’t a one off. I spoke to my employer and asked their advice and they advised me to go around and see the parents, which I did . I felt so sorry for that little innocent little boy and for his parents who are both doctors. The sad thing is they thought their nanny was amazing. yet she didn’t do any household chores and they just wanted her to sit watching the baby. All she did was read her magazines and have friends over.
Good childcare workers don’t do it for the money they do it because doing the job brings them so much joy and reward seeing each child grow and develop and move forward. I can honestly. say even now I miss the children I’ve looked after.
You don’t have to give up work rather then employ a childcarer there are many good employees out there you just have to look do background checks and phone OFSTED ask other childcare workers. Ask friends for recommendations and trust your gut feeling. If the childcarer when meeting your children gets down on their level and starts to interact and play and the children are engaging that’s a great sign. I always insisted that I shadowed the mum for a few weeks so I knew their routine and it also allows the children time to bond.
Just because you leave your children you have the right to expect the same standards as if you were home taking care of themselves. Been a nanny or childminder you are extremely privileged been trusted to take care of their precious little ones. When I had my son I really understand how difficult it must have been for them mothers. When many clearly wanted to be at home taking care of their family. No mother should feel guilty for trying to do their best for their children and if that’s working to make ends meet then they sacrifice that time and I’ve seen so many mothers hate leaving their babies, it really is heartbreaking and not a easy choice for any mother.

curaçao · 24/07/2023 01:06

Whispering in front of others us rude, and peeing on the bathroom floor needs addressing too, so I dint think either of those examples hold water.If she is parked right outside the shop she can maybe see the kids the whole time, or, more likely, it didn't happen at all

Ninalon · 24/07/2023 03:25

Unfortunately I’ve worked with many childcarers from nannies to childminder’s and inside nurseries and I have to say there are so many that choose this line of work for all the wrong reason’s. They think it’s easy and they get to be with their own children if working from home. Sadly it attracts the wrong people.
I’ve always loved children but when I saw how they were been treated I had to stand up and say something. I believe karma always calls and the truth always escapes sooner or later. Remember your children are your precious little gifts and the childminder should be honoured you are letting her take care of them. Any childcarer knows how difficult it is for a mother to let go of their baby. I’d waited 25 years for my little bundle of joy then six weeks later I have a accident and numb from hips down. I’d looked after so many babies and toddlers for my employers but now my son needed me and I couldn’t look after him or protect him from this awful childminder.
But something much worse happened later on. Everyone needs to beware of what can happen. My child was marked at primary school a teacher wanted my son. They got a friend of hers who was a social worker and they did everything to remove my child. I did everything they asked but it was never enough. I started writing to everyone who’d listen and after around six months the head of social services came to my home. I played her audio of the social worker threatening me and also my young son. She removed the social worker off our case and I agreed for another worker to be assigned. When the new social worker took over she was horrified by the file and she couldn’t understand why they were taking me to court to remove my son. Within days the case was closed and I was told my son had been marked by teacher at his school and they were unable to have children and they’d just been approved for fostering and adoption. This teacher had been taking my son for special afternoon teas while at school and told my son they were their secret. I always believed social services were there for children who were abused and needed help. They made a mockery out of the whole system what they did to my family. They decided to come after me because he was my son and because I have a spinal injury and they thought I wouldn’t work it out what they were doing. If my son had any friends over to play or stay the night then poor children were interrogated by the teacher. My son came home crying telling me they are spying on him. When I finally got the social services report they’d lied all the way through. It was disgusting how baby p had just been murdered yet they were pursuing us like we were going to abuse and hurt our son. We are now in the process of taking them to court after the harm they did to my son and our family.
people need to know there are predators and people that will harm our children all around us including in agencies that should protect our children. Teachers have way to much power and sadly some use it to lie and get what they want. The reason she wanted my son was because he is sweet innocent trusting loving and kind we’ve always encouraged manners and right from wrong and every teacher described him like a breath of fresh air because he loves to learn and be with his so polite and kind. Even now at 18 teachers still say how wonderful he is.
while all this was happening I remember if anyone knocked on the door he’d hide because they’d told him he’d be taken away soon and live with them. It was heartbreaking I knew I needed help. The social worker told everyone I was mad and not to listen to me. I ended up having a full psychological and IQ assessments that took over a week to prove I wasn’t mad or stupid. The only thing they found was OCD with cleaning and my IQ came back at 145 which I was told was good. Yet this social worker was making lots of lies up about me. Finally when the head of social services came her excuse really hurt me, she said this worker had obviously taken a dislike to us and wanted to cause us problems. She said this worker had never acted like this before.She was always professional unfortunately she was anything but professional with us or our son.
i think people need to be aware with what can happen and how nasty and awful people can be. I’d love to share our whole story because it needs to be told to warn others of the dangers of school teachers treating your child differently isn’t a good thing. I just thought she was helping him read not having secret tea parties in her offices and having little chats.
I finally got the courage at a meeting and asked to speak to the headteacher and told her straight if she carried on with her lies and unprofessional behaviour I’d report her to every government agency and also to the board of governors. Again everything changed they were all aiding and a betting and I have audio and video evidence of it all. We recorded the meeting we had and when it went to court I was appointed a solicitor what a joke! He wouldn’t do anything he told me to just accept it and move on with my life he told me if I stood up or asked questions I’d loose my son. I did stand and didn’t listen to my legal team. I demanded all evidence and wow when I got it it was like reading about a very unhinged abusive family who didn’t care for there child. They even said my son looked dirty and unkept for school. Yet the headmaster said my son was in the top 10% that is immaculately dressed and bathed daily.. They also said we never helped him with his projects that family gets involved with so in court we pulled a Roman shield out full size that him and his dad had made and this huge A3 picture with small square of foam shaped has a lion. He always got first prize and voted best project by other students. They also said we allowed him to stay up until midnight. Which again we could prove wrong since the day he was born bath at 7 pm bedtime story at 7.30pm and lights out for whole house at 8pm because we get up at 5 am. They also said we brought him inappropriate books and toys because we bought him David Williams books aimed at our sons then age. My husband bought him a drone because they loved taking remote control things out and flying and driving them. Yet we are been told it’s inappropriate. We also bought him science kits eg solar powered robot and clock that are some at our son’s age yet again we were told inappropriate.
The worst part of the report goes on about my son has gastroenteritis and I took him to doctors and within a few minutes need to bring him home because of accident, this time I took a pile of clean clothes just encase he was He had the runs again. While we were waiting to see our Gp he messed himself twice more and I put him one of my pads on to catch any accidents. When I got home social worker was at the door and she wanted to know why he wasn’t at school. She then saw the pad in the back of my sons trousers and told me to remove it. I explained I just put it in while we were out. I thought that was it, but no she wrote in her report that I was trying to regress my child back in nappies even though it was a one off and it was a pad not a nappy. Some sick people make evil out of the most innocent situation. All because I was trying to keep my son clean. The whole thing was a total nightmare. Always trust your gut it saved my family.

sueelleker · 24/07/2023 10:36

curaçao · 24/07/2023 01:06

Whispering in front of others us rude, and peeing on the bathroom floor needs addressing too, so I dint think either of those examples hold water.If she is parked right outside the shop she can maybe see the kids the whole time, or, more likely, it didn't happen at all

And the childminder shows up!

adriftinadenofvipers · 24/07/2023 20:32

curaçao · 24/07/2023 01:06

Whispering in front of others us rude, and peeing on the bathroom floor needs addressing too, so I dint think either of those examples hold water.If she is parked right outside the shop she can maybe see the kids the whole time, or, more likely, it didn't happen at all

Hopefully the bathroom floor held water.

CathyFitzs · 25/07/2023 12:47

Please, please remove them. The childminder obviously doesn’t like you and is demonising both you and your children. You will never be able to please them. They’re happy to go because that’s all
they know. I’m sure she will
also be criticising you to them or in their earshot. Good luck, I know it’s an upsetting thing to have to do.

ChaosCrew · 26/07/2023 20:41

Even that isn’t allowed. As a childminder, she should ensure her vehicle has sufficient amount of fuel in it for the day. It is not permitted to fill up with fuel when you are childminding.

Divadoc · 26/07/2023 21:21

ChaosCrew · 26/07/2023 20:41

Even that isn’t allowed. As a childminder, she should ensure her vehicle has sufficient amount of fuel in it for the day. It is not permitted to fill up with fuel when you are childminding.

Of course a childminder can fuel their car whilst working. I use pay at pump, I work long hours and at times it just isn’t possible for me to go out late at night to fill my car 🤷🏼‍♀️

KateyCuckoo · 26/07/2023 21:24

ChaosCrew · 26/07/2023 20:41

Even that isn’t allowed. As a childminder, she should ensure her vehicle has sufficient amount of fuel in it for the day. It is not permitted to fill up with fuel when you are childminding.

Would love you to link to this 'rule'.

Don't make things up!

I use a local drive through fuel station and that works perfectly well.

FuchsAndMöhr · 26/07/2023 22:19

ChaosCrew · 26/07/2023 20:41

Even that isn’t allowed. As a childminder, she should ensure her vehicle has sufficient amount of fuel in it for the day. It is not permitted to fill up with fuel when you are childminding.

Yeah, you made that up 🙄

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