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To immediately remove my child from childminder

214 replies

Ohriley · 21/07/2023 16:17

My child has been going to a childminder for 2 years - with 2 days a week at a preschool and the remainder with her. I don't like her at all, she's becoming more and more unhinged in how she deals with me - however I've kept them with her because they enjoy their time there and have nothing negative to say.

This week, my child has told me that they're sometimes left alone in the car while the childminder goes to the shop. They're not one for making up stories.

They start school in September so only 6 weeks to go and I can scrabble together alternative care until then.

Would you upset your child's routine for your own sanity / the safety issue or would you stick it out for a further 6 weeks?

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Loz2323 · 22/07/2023 21:41

Don't know who said it was illegal to leave kids in car unsupervised but that is a load of tosh, there is No such UK law

Ihateslugs · 22/07/2023 22:02

YukoandHiro · 21/07/2023 16:24

Agree @Annachristie but it's still illegal even if for a loaf of bread if they're pre school age.

It's not even legal to leave under 7s in the car on the forecourt which is why Dh and I always fill up when we're alone

I wasn’t aware it is illegal to leave children in a car alone - unwise and unsafe certainly but not actually against the law. I guess times have changed since my children were young, I can’t believe my son is 40 tomorrow, I’m much too young to have a child that old!

TrueScrumptious · 22/07/2023 22:10

Ihateslugs · 22/07/2023 22:02

I wasn’t aware it is illegal to leave children in a car alone - unwise and unsafe certainly but not actually against the law. I guess times have changed since my children were young, I can’t believe my son is 40 tomorrow, I’m much too young to have a child that old!

It’s not illegal.

Yonderway · 22/07/2023 22:11

Daisylookslost · 21/07/2023 16:42

And that’s why I use a nursery!

please put your child’s safety first, I would

Nit all nurseries are wonderful and some childminders are excellent.
I regularly see children.from a local nursery being taken to the park and the staff look bored and not particularly engaged with the children.

MammaEvz3 · 22/07/2023 22:12

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Wow. Was that really necessary?

T1Dmama · 22/07/2023 22:13

I’d pull my kids out without a second thought and report her to the local council or whoever childminders need reporting to

Mojitomad · 22/07/2023 22:21

definitely remove your child and report. No excuse for leaving a child alone in a car especially if you’re looking after someone else’s child !

TRexTara · 22/07/2023 22:22

Annachristie · 21/07/2023 16:23

It depends on how long they are in the car. Popping in for a loaf of bread isn't the same as leaving them while she does a full supermarket shop.

This. But it sounds like you don't like the woman. So why is your child there? Surely you would only leave your child with people you personally like and respect?

Chiccaletta · 22/07/2023 22:50

I wouldnt be happy.
Some under 5s cant be trusted alone in the car (mine especially). Childminder might not have child-locked the door (or the windows, imagine kids opening and closing them whilst leaning/waving out if keys left in). A lot of modern cars alarms get set off when door is locked and person moving inside, so if they havent disabled it they may just leave it unlocked. And it gets hot in cars in the summer, not nice if she gets distracted chatting in shop and not nice if kid is desperate for a wee and all alone. I could think of loads more cons if I had the time

Divadoc · 22/07/2023 23:03

Have you had a chat with the childminder at all? I once had a child tell their parent I had left them in the car at the petrol station. What had actually happened was I was putting air in my tyres. Yes, the child was in the car however I was just outside of it. I couldn’t help having to put air in, we wouldn’t have got to our destination otherwise. Thankfully, when the parent spoke to me I could explain and all was right.

I’ve also had occasions where I’ve dropped a child at home, I pull up onto the drive, leave the others in the car and walk child to their front door. I’m less than 10 feet away and can see and hear the children. If a young child described it though it may sound vastly different.

I’m not saying that what you’ve heard is wrong, more to just get the full story

Mumof32017 · 22/07/2023 23:22

Ihateslugs · 22/07/2023 22:02

I wasn’t aware it is illegal to leave children in a car alone - unwise and unsafe certainly but not actually against the law. I guess times have changed since my children were young, I can’t believe my son is 40 tomorrow, I’m much too young to have a child that old!

It’s not illegal, in the this country anyway. Where majority are from 🤷🏻‍♀️

Southlondoner88 · 22/07/2023 23:23

sounds awful @Ohriley I am sorry this happened to you, it gives other childcare workers a bad reputation and it’s so unfair. I’ve been a nanny ten years and would never treat children or parents this way!

Where are you based? I am
looking for a summer nanny role (I don’t start my permanent role until late September). Message if you would lbw interested or just need to vent, I know a lot of great nannies.

T1Dmama · 22/07/2023 23:47

TRexTara · 22/07/2023 22:22

This. But it sounds like you don't like the woman. So why is your child there? Surely you would only leave your child with people you personally like and respect?

No it doesn’t depend how long at all… a child should NEVER be left in a car.
someone in our town ‘popped’ in a shop and while in their collapsed … she woke in ambulance and said she’d left kids in her car… police went looking and found the kids dead in the car…. Other people have ‘popped’ in somewhere and an electrical fire in the cars killed the kids.
m up to parents if they want to risk their kids but no way a paid childminder should risk other peoples children

timesaretight · 22/07/2023 23:47

No it doesn't depend how long they are left. Ever heard of car fires, kidnap, kids playing with handbrake, ignition?

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Hmm… think we’ve found the childminder 😅

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Besides being a horrible thing to say, what the hell has that got to do with anything? OP hasn't said she can't afford childcare and she can afford to take the financial hit of removing them from their current childminder, who quite frankly, sounds as unhinged as you do.

SpiralHecate · 23/07/2023 01:06

Ohriley · 22/07/2023 21:26

@notsurewherenotsurewhy that's what I'm suspecting- that she might be becoming increasingly dissatisfied in the job and her children being almost grown up now etc are manifesting in being persistently nitpicky with what are very small children and difficult to communicate with. Its not like she gently asks if we could work together on improving aim to not leave any drips in the bathroom for example - its snarky texts telling me other children don't do it and that her loo is starting to smell because of him etc.

My main concern was that it could be unsettling for him to remove him from her care when he is used to her - but I had a talk to him today and his response was that he would not miss her but he will miss his little friend and please could we visit him at his house one day. He's excited that he'll spend the summer with a mix of me, his granny, and a nanny that he knows well and has agreed to cover a couple of weeks for us.

Sounds like you've found a good workable solution.

BackAgainstWall · 23/07/2023 01:11

Yanbu

It’s totally irresponsible that she leaves small children alone in her car.
I would sack her off for that reason alone.

TRexTara · 23/07/2023 01:13

@T1Dmama yeah. Your situation sounds unlikely.

T1Dmama · 23/07/2023 01:16

Invisibleeye · 23/07/2023 00:57

Hmm… think we’ve found the childminder 😅

Beth is a sexist nasty woman. Thinks women who have children should stay at home clearly! Sexism at its best

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