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Incident in park- feel disgusting

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NutmegOrCinnamon · 20/07/2023 12:05

feel a bit stupid even being upset by this but I am. Long term poster btw but I’ve NC for this.

Earlier this week I was walking my dog through a local public park. The park consists of a huge area of woods but also more public/busy areas like the kids play park etc. I was walking my dog through the first bit to get into the park which is basically a big giant grassy field and there were lots of dogs playing off the lead. 2 dogs came running up to her and wouldn’t leave her alone. There was a big group of neddy guys I’d guess aged 30-40 sitting on the grass drinking around 30 feet from me. 2 of them came running over to collect their dogs and apologise to me for their dogs being annoying, I was like no worries etc. one of them then turned round and started saying can I get your number ? Do you walk round these woods yourself and fancy a walking partner ? And his pal burst out laughing at it. I just completely ignored him and walked on with my dog. But as I walked past the big group of guys (I had to to get into the park/woods) they all started shouting stuff at me, it was clear they were all drunk and trying to one up each other with the worst thing they could say but it felt absolutely horrible to listen to. It started with oi can my friend get your number? Where do you live hunny? Then quickly became things like shouting comments about my body, and asking obscene questions like how many fingers can you fit in? Have you ever tried an*l?? Want to come to my house and we’ll all have great fun?? Each comment got a fit of laughs from the others. I also heard them taking loudly to each other about me - for example, one of them was like if we tied her up we could all take it in turns. And again they all roared with laughter at this

usually I’d be quick enough to shout back at them to fuck off but for some reason I didn’t, I just completely froze and choked up and couldn’t say anything. It was like I was in a trance, I could hear them but I remember thinking I’m just walking my dog and ignoring them, keep walking, keep walking etc. one of their dogs then ran up to my dog again and one of the guys ran up to bring it back and again started trying to get my Snapchat and started saying things about my body, I wasn’t really listening because honestly it was as if my dog and I were in a trance and we kept walking and which seemed to annoy him more and eventually he left.

eventually they left me alone. I went into the park and took the first side exit out because I wanted to go home. There were other people walking about but only 2 people walked past me and the guys and they just kept walking. I know they were just neds and it was them just being drunk idiots and trying to be funny to each other but I felt so disgusting and embarrassed. I was just out walking my dog at 3 in the afternoon in a busy public place at 24 years old.

sorry for the rant, I don’t know why this has upset me so much because nothing actually happened but I feel horrible about it and don’t want to go back to the park, even though they probably won’t be there again. I’m also so annoyed at myself for not standing up for myself and telling them to fuck off but it was so weird, I honestly felt like I was hypnotised just to keep walking and ignore them

Has anyone got any advice on how I can get over it and stop feeling so rubbish about it all? Thanks in advance.

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TiffAndTheHusband · 20/07/2023 15:54

Would never go back to a park like that tbh.

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 20/07/2023 15:58

God that is horrible.

YANBU to have been so upset and scared. I'm generally a bit of a hardarse but that honestly got my hackles up just reading about it.

I think you should report it to the police as well.

Verbena17 · 20/07/2023 15:59

Definitely report it to the police. Although lots of people here saying they won’t do anything, for things like this, they might actually alter their patrol routes and therefore it might make a real difference.

I’m so sorry this happened to you @NutmegOrCinnamon . Please do not think you’ve overreacted or they were just messing about.

They were sexually harassing you. Not replying to them kept you safe and you instinctively knew that.

Misspinkdiditinthelibrary · 20/07/2023 16:03

You need to report this to the Police, OP.

It's harassment/intimidation.

I'm sorry this happened to you.

Blinkinbloodyhayfever · 20/07/2023 16:05

Sorry this happened to you op. I absolutely agree with everyone else that you should report to the police. They were threatening and verbally assulting you, so it would be a 999, not a non emergency. Please don't let them make you feel embarrassed or bad about yourself, this was about them and not you. Hope you are okay. 💐

lostinfusion · 20/07/2023 16:05

sorry it happened OP, sounds truly horrible

what is a neddy guy/neds please?

Pammy26 · 20/07/2023 16:09

That is such an awful experience. I am so angry on your behalf. I feel like (sorry) xxxxxxxxx them and xxxxxxxxx in their faces. How dare they violate you like this. I am sending you a big cyber hug. You would be within your rights to report them to the police. I am so sorry. You are slightly younger than my youngest daughter and she gets this sexualised verbal abuse. Once she was spat at because she did not respond to these guys cat calling etc The trance must have been shock and even fear.

BeginningToLookALotLike · 20/07/2023 16:10

Yes do report this to the police and also if you can find out if the council or a voluntary organisation runs the park, let them know as well. Could be that this isn't the first time this group have harassed young women.

SchoolQuestionnaire · 20/07/2023 16:13

Those fuckers are the ones who should be feeling disgusting because they fucking are. What kind of men pick on a lone woman like that? You have done nothing wrong, you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. None of us could say how we would react when confronted with that sort of behaviour. Those twats on the other hand should be fucking ashamed of themselves. Bloody misogynistic bullies.

JJxxxxx · 20/07/2023 16:13

That’s awful 😢
I hope you are okay!!!
I know easier said then done but try and put it into the back of your mind! You did everything right just ignoring and walking away from it they behaved in a disgusting and disrespectful way to ‘amuse’ themselves they should be ashamed not you!

angstridden2 · 20/07/2023 16:16

Agree with everyone saying tell the police. This is at the very least Antisocial behaviour and most councils will take action on this. I don’t suppose you’re the first woman harassed by these vile creatures.

nonmerci99 · 20/07/2023 16:18

I'm so sorry this happened to you. This is pretty serious sexual harassment -- you have every right to feel the way you do, and I think most women would in your case. I don't have any advice for getting over it, but know that in time the feelings of shame/embarrassment/anger will dull, and eventually you will hardly remember this incident at all.

If you can report the behaviour to police (especially if you see them again or it happens again), I absolutely would. There is no excuse for saying things like that to another person.

ArabeIIaScott · 20/07/2023 16:18

So sorry, OP. That sounds a deeply frightening and disturbing incident.

Rape Crisis can provide support, and advice about reporting. I'm guessing you're in Scotland, if you're calling them neds.

https://www.rapecrisisscotland.org.uk/about-what/

What RCS does

Rape Crisis Scotland is Scotland’s leading organisation working to transform attitudes, improve responses and ultimately to end rape and sexual violence in all its forms.

https://www.rapecrisisscotland.org.uk/about-what

andthat · 20/07/2023 16:20

Dear god… what the hell has happened to humanity?

If my sons ever behaved even remotely like this I’d report them to the police myself.

I absolutely despair of this culture of misogyny that only seems to be escalating.

Comedycook · 20/07/2023 16:29

It's very scary and I'm not sure even decent men can understand how scary it is. Imagine if a man was walking alone and a group of men who were all physically stronger than him shouted out threats to rape him. That's what it's like...terrifying

Autumntimeagain · 20/07/2023 16:39

No, OP, something most definitely DID happen !

You were forced to listen to those men joke about sexually assaulting and raping you ffs ! How the hell were you supposed to feel ?

Do you think they'd have done the same thing if they were with their Mothers ? No ? Then they damn well knew they were doing wrong ffs ! They just kept up their threatening and abusive cat calls and actually approached you twice ! How the hell were you to know the one who approached you to 'collect their dog' wasn't going to grab you and call his 'friends' over to 'join in' ?

It would only have taken ONE of them to decide to go that far, wouldn't it ?

Misspiggy1012 · 20/07/2023 16:41

Is everyone on this in Edinburgh Scotland or is it worldwide? I still want to know what park this was in just so I can warn my daughter and keep well away myself. This is what happens when men drink I've never came across any man doing things like this when sober or even the pot smokers don't act like that. I don't drink but I've always thought it should have a warning label saying add alcohol instant a hole.

lucylulululu · 20/07/2023 17:02

I can completely sympathise with this. Similar things have happened to me many times including when I was well underage by grown men. Disgusting. And I totally get the feeling disgusting thing as well it's so awful. There needs to be significant laws brought in about this kind of thing as it happens way too often. People are put off phoning police because in all likelihood nothing will happen, no one will bother coming out or when they do it will be hours later and these disgusting freaks know that so they have the freedom to keep doing it and feeling invincible.

It's plagued me so badly over the years that I can't go ANYWHERE on my own now. I have zero independence in that regard. Which I'm working on, but it's really hard when something like this happens and then knocks your confidence and makes you not want to return to a place you used to love going because it has now been tainted and become scary. Horrible for anyone to go through. I really feel for you OP I'm sorry you've had to go through that xx

constantreader · 20/07/2023 17:02

It's bloody horrendous what you were subjected too, I'm so sorry you had to deal with that. FWIW the 'freeze' reaction is the most common of the fight, flight or freeze responses when it comes to sexual assaults, so please don't feel that you somehow reacted in the 'wrong' way. You didn't. You did exactly what your body told you to do.

It makes me incredibly angry that females are subjected to this kind of abuse. I have been... in fact I don't know a single woman who hasn't been the victim of this kind of harassment, or even worse, at some point in their lives. Fuck those men.

I'm guessing you're in Scotland by the use of the word ned. You can contact Victim Support Scotland for emotional support - they can also offer you practical support such as a personal rape alarm, they can send this to you today. You can contact them even if you don't want to report it to the police.

www.victimsupport.scot

Hope you're ok. Take care of yourself.

Home - Victim Support Scotland

http://www.victimsupport.scot

Fernticket · 20/07/2023 17:03

I am so sorry you had to go through this. It's incredibly scary being in that position. You absolutely did the right thing, keeping yourself and your dog safe. Please report to Police so that they are aware.

SplitLevel · 20/07/2023 17:06

You did amazingly. You reacted how you should to get away and stay safe. Reacting to them wouldn’t help.
i agreee with taking to the police. They were threatening to rape you and that will be taken seriously. They can also signpost you with some people who you can talk to if needed.

yoi did nothing wrong in what you did or how you reacted. It was 100% on them

SunnyEgg · 20/07/2023 17:07

I’m so sorry you experienced this

I am older but reading it made me feel teary as that feeling of being attacked in that way is awful

SunnyEgg · 20/07/2023 17:09

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 20/07/2023 12:21

That's awful OP. You did exactly the right thing. Shouting back at them or reacting in any way at all would have risked them escalating. Your instinct took over and got you the hell out of there. It was absolutely the best thing to do. And I would have gone straight home too!

I would report to the police, they sound terrifying.

I think the fear was because there was absolutely nothing stopping them if they'd decided to do what they were shouting about. Some bloke on a scaffold wolf whistling is a creep, but he can't actually get to you. Some gross bloke in a club or a bar is surrounded by other people, there's safety in numbers.

You were alone with a large group of unpredictable drunk men threatening you. Of course you were terrified.

Exactly this

Please know what happened was terrifying for a reason, you did well

Twillow · 20/07/2023 17:10

I'b be very upset too. Sorry this happened to you - what arseholes. How would they feel if someone did that to their sister or girlfriend eh?

ArabeIIaScott · 20/07/2023 17:11

SunnyEgg · 20/07/2023 17:09

Exactly this

Please know what happened was terrifying for a reason, you did well

Absolutely. OP your instincts managed to get you out of there safely.

You will then have a lot of stress to process, once you come out of the 'freeze' state. It's highly unpleasant. A counsellor or therapist may help, or talking to a friend or family member.

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