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Husband's kids have zero work ethic

224 replies

tiredofthisshit21 · 16/07/2023 10:27

I have two DSS, aged 17 & 22. Neither of them have any desire to get a job. Am currently dreading the summer hols when the 17yo will be in the house all day while I WFH and DH is in the office. 22yo is coming back after finishing his masters and expecting to be supported financially. I feel done with it all - my own adult child (20) is working in uni town all summer and not expecting anything from me.

AIBU to have DH speak to them both about finding work?

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tiredofthisshit21 · 16/07/2023 18:40

LeviJeanQueen · 16/07/2023 18:33

Your own child was always out. Can’t imagine why.

Why? Because she had a social life, and a job. Is that not healthy?

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MintJulia · 16/07/2023 18:41

I think you need to give them a chance to find some work. There are plenty of hospitality jobs around so it shouldn't be a problem.

But yes I would expect a 17yo to work at least part time during the summer. I started at 13, cleaning a pub.

Ask them directly what sort of jobs they are looking for this summer. Make it an assumption that they will look for work. Keep an eye out for pubs and shops advertising for summer help, and tell them what you find.

Whatever you do, don't cook for them, tidy their rooms or do their washing. They don't need that sort of help.

Willyoujustbequiet · 16/07/2023 19:06

PinkiOcelot · 16/07/2023 10:40

Do you think they shouldn’t get jobs and be funded by OP?

A 17 year-old yes they should be funded by parents. They are still a minor.

I'd think it bizarre that anyone expected otherwise.

Willyoujustbequiet · 16/07/2023 19:08

tiredofthisshit21 · 16/07/2023 11:22

Have they actually said they’re expecting to come home and not work at all for the foreseeable?

I asked eldest what his plans were and he said he was just gonna chill for a bit.

They do nothing around the house. If I sound resentful it probably comes from having to pick up after two more adults.

17 isn't an adult

Willyoujustbequiet · 16/07/2023 19:13

MCOut · 16/07/2023 17:08

No, I remember my department didn’t let us work in uni. It depends on your number of contact hours I think.

YABVU I’m sorry but allowing your children to live at home and supporting them while they are still in education or while they are looking for a job, is just basic modern parenting. Step children or not. Some of you are truly tight. If

This.

It's their home, their dad is supporting them. I don't see the issue, it's normal parenting.

Just don't pick up after them.

HonoriaLucastaDelagardie · 16/07/2023 19:16

Why do people think a 17 year old has just finished GCSEs? I assume he's half-way through the sixth form.

If he was a July/August baby, he'll have finihed his A Levels and left school.

A 17 year-old yes they should be funded by parents.

OP isn't his parent.

Ridemeginger · 16/07/2023 19:29

Why is the 22 year old coming back to your house, rather than his mother's (which I assume is/was his family home/primary residence)? How much of their summer holiday will be spent at your house?

My daughter started working at 14 at weekends. Most of her friends have weekend jobs outside the home - sports coaching, pet sitting/dog walking, babysitting, running coffee stalls at sport, helping at kids' clubs etc - they are a very enterprising bunch! There's really no excuse for either of these older children to be sitting around all holiday being unproductive, especially the 22 year old.

GrapeHyacinth · 16/07/2023 19:33

Ridemeginger · 16/07/2023 19:29

Why is the 22 year old coming back to your house, rather than his mother's (which I assume is/was his family home/primary residence)? How much of their summer holiday will be spent at your house?

My daughter started working at 14 at weekends. Most of her friends have weekend jobs outside the home - sports coaching, pet sitting/dog walking, babysitting, running coffee stalls at sport, helping at kids' clubs etc - they are a very enterprising bunch! There's really no excuse for either of these older children to be sitting around all holiday being unproductive, especially the 22 year old.

Op said they don't live with her FT.

GrapeHyacinth · 16/07/2023 19:35

She'd rather they didn't live with her at all

Ridemeginger · 16/07/2023 19:41

I know what she said, which is why I'm asking her how much of their holiday will actually be at her house, and whether their mum's house is their primary "base", such that her concerns about them being under her feet all the time are unfounded.

Hibiscrubbed · 16/07/2023 20:55

The mad stepmother bashers are out in force, I see.

SingingNettles · 16/07/2023 21:05

I’m generally against children in full time education having term-time jobs if it can be avoided. On average, those who work have poorer grades.

The 17 year old shouldn’t have to pay towards household costs but it’s not unreasonable for him to get a summer job if he’s expecting his social life to be funded.

The 22 year old - he’s an adult so he needs a job, but I find it hard to believe he has no intention of getting one. Surely he doesn’t expect to live off his parents forever?

tiredofthisshit21 · 16/07/2023 21:55

Ridemeginger · 16/07/2023 19:41

I know what she said, which is why I'm asking her how much of their holiday will actually be at her house, and whether their mum's house is their primary "base", such that her concerns about them being under her feet all the time are unfounded.

Three days a week.

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Coyoacan · 16/07/2023 22:06

I would be so proud if a child of mine had done a masters.

OP; does your dh not do any housework either?

Baconisdelicious · 16/07/2023 22:25

I’m generally against children in full time education having term-time jobs if it can be avoided. On average, those who work have poorer grades

do you have any links to research?

Coyoacan · 16/07/2023 22:41

@Baconisdelicious

Yeap. We were dirt poor and my mum was totally against us working while studying. It always strikes me as a very American tradition.

TimesRwo · 17/07/2023 00:52

I think as OP has avoided explaining what the 17 year old is doing, he must be in his school / college holidays rather than lazing about with no ambition. In other words, the very opposite of a lack of work ethic.

And same for the 22 year old who has just completed a masters.

Baconisdelicious · 17/07/2023 06:02

@5foot5 so your opinion, then?

Baconisdelicious · 17/07/2023 06:03

Baconisdelicious · 17/07/2023 06:02

@5foot5 so your opinion, then?

sorry wrong person!

finewelshcheese · 17/07/2023 06:38

I don't really understand why they're still doing some kind of 50/50 custody arrangement at their age.

I know loads of divorced families, and when the kids were post 16 they lived in their main residence and just visited their dad when they wanted (obviously in some families they live with dad but in the case of my friends all live with mum)

These two going to a different house just to doss around for three days, what's the point?

And no OP, YANBU to expect them to do something useful and contribute to your household, even the 17 year old "child".

cinnamonfrenchtoast · 17/07/2023 06:40

It's starting to sound like you're jealous that they have the summer off and you have to carry on working as normal 🙈

It's not unusual for a 17yo not to work and the eldest has just completed a Masters so presumably hasn't had the time to work.

If they want some time off then that's their decision. Lock yourself in your office while you work and let them get on with it. You don't need to pick up after them or take them anywhere.

jolaylasofia · 17/07/2023 06:42

sound like the classic evil stepmother.

17 year old is a kid and as you are married to his dad you are partly responsible for him until he leaves full time education. He doesn't need to get a job, there's plenty of time for that when he is an ADULT.

Those saying they worked from age 13...poor you! that's nothing to show off about and find it very sad.

AngelAurora · 17/07/2023 06:46

It's none of your business OP, wind your neck in and give it a rest.

tiredofthisshit21 · 17/07/2023 06:48

I honestly find it very surprising that so many people don't encourage their kids to get part time jobs and think it's ok to have them lazing around the house all day every day. It stands them in good stead later in life - that's what I believe, anyway.

I will be locking myself in my office. But it gets very wearing having to tell them to keep the noise down when they're gaming with their mates and yelling at their screens when I'm in meetings.

And to the poster who doesn't understand why we're still doing contact arrangements at their age: I completely agree.

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tiredofthisshit21 · 17/07/2023 06:49

AngelAurora · 17/07/2023 06:46

It's none of your business OP, wind your neck in and give it a rest.

Completely my business when it disrupts my home.

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