To think men can NEVER be mothers

[Leafstamp]

I am furious that men like this think they can call themselves mums/mothers. This deserves a wide audience, hence posting in AIBU.

(11) Paul Embery on Twitter: "ITV news did a piece about the impact of soaring water bills on an everyday mother. So naturally they got a man to play the part. t.co/b0ipO7loUE" / Twitter

A man is a man, that’s kind of basic

How is the person in that clip a 'woman'?

If a male says they are a 'woman', what they mean is that they are only the manifestation of their perception of what a 'woman' is. They have not changed sex. They are still male. They can never know what a woman feels like to know whether what they feel is anything like what a woman feels like to a female who is now an adult.

Therefore how is that person a 'woman'? Because that person says so? What other identity will you accept a person is when they are not actually that identity?

Skirt go spinny, eh.

Worth checking out that youtube/twitter account.

I don't see how the person calling themself a mother has any impact on you / your life - why do we have to get so worked up over what other people are doing or what they call themselves? It doesn't make you any less of a mother. Personally if I was to find myself in the position of wanting to identify as male I think it would be rational to ask my kids to refer to me as dad 🤷‍♀️ so the other way seems sensible

His reference to his 'kid' gave me the ick.

Well it kind of does if you are being performative about it, otherwise there would be no point in.................. 🤔

Well, there you go. Stereotypes abound 🤷‍♀️

Poor kids.

We'll it may well be his kid, he's just not it's mother.

Well there is nothing rational about getting your kids to call you 'Dad' if you are their mother.

But if you begin with an irrationality, then I suppose you have to keep carrying it through in order not to appear irrational.

But it's not just about that is it.
Words have meaning.

If it's ok to say a male is a woman and to call him mum, then it's ok for that male to be in spaces where women and girls are vulnerable, it's ok for him to be in womens soorts, it's ok for him to be in a DV shelter or female prison.

So no, I won't call men women, because it has consequences.

I see this sort of thing and sometimes feel like I'm not allowed to be a woman because I don't have a Penis. This is the world we live in now!

@LittleMG

I know I’m going to be really flamed and I don’t think this in a nasty way at all… but I honestly feel that when I had my child I became a mother in lots of ways, I mean like I gained this kind of second sight/intuition to my children I never had with anyone else. My husband is an amazing dad and we parent 50/50 but he does not have my intuition when it comes to my babies. Men dont get it imo

I expect the lazy, selfish can’t be arsed fathers love this sort of unscientific opinion, as they feel it gives them a justification. But it is lazy unfounded bs. All the evidence shows that children bond closest with their primary care giver - be it a mum, dad, grandparent or someone biologically unrelated.

Of course many babies do spend more time in close proximity to the mum than dad in the first 1-2 years. Partly because of breast feeding and partly because of social expectation. So yes, then, the mum will often “get” the babies/toddlers needs quicker than the dad. But there’s no magic 6th sense to it by virtue of some mystical female power. It’s simply knowledge gained by proximity and experience - aka, primary care giver.

Another quote from the website of children of trans on how they are impacted by dads who say they are women :
'Try to imagine, if you can, what is it like to have a father who believes that he is also
undergoing puberty and wants to share in yours in some way. A father who wants to go to bra fittings with you, wants to know about your periods, wants to try on make up with you, who wants to try on clothes with you, who wants to be your ‘mother’. A father who believes that being a woman means adopting the worst kinds of stereotypes about female submissive behaviour and clothing choices. Imagine being a young woman and aware far too early about sexual fetishishes. Whatever you think the reason is for transitioning, this is not an arbitrary concept to the children of fathers who transition – these are behaviours we experience'.
https://childrenoftransitioners.org/2021/02/27/gra-inquiry-submission/

It's not a mystical 6th sense but babies are more comfortable with their mothers because they were born recognising our smell, sound, movement and taste. We are home.

Frankly I am more concerned about what the water board local to this mother is putting in the water.

( runs off to check on bottled water supplies in Tesco)

A man can be one of two parents or a step-parent to a child, who does not have a mother in their life, but they are not a mother.

First they try to steal Female now they want Mother. The ones they are looking for are Male and Father.

@anotherside Boom 💥 😐

Mika ( the person loading the washing) is the one who has tried to abolish public transport announcements using ‘Ladies and Gentlemen’ as a form of address. Apparently it is ‘exclusive’ to people like Mika who have ‘changed from one category into another’ , although one might think that that is a bit self contradictory. If you now identify as a chap or a chick, although you used to do it the other way round , why don’t you just identify with the now correct term? ‘I’m a lady’ as they used to say on Little Britain.

So how is a generally accepted gendered term like ‘mum’ not exclusive and giving hurt feelings to Mika? Why not just say parent and avoid the anguish of categorisation?

I found it really difficult to watch him wash that plate with the green side of the sponge. I just thought, you are going to scratch that plate, made me wince.

Madness! Supppose they didn’t want to be bothered with those “old fashioned mothers “ you know the ones without a penis.

A male told us the other day that women are a constellation of data points and that male feels that their data points indicate that they are a female person.

Is that the kind of definition you are after Bromptotoo?

Do you think that female people are a constellation of data points that can then be manipulated so that a male person can claim to be a female person?

Are you telling a man how to wash up? Are you a man? Because it’s a well known fact that only men can give advice to men , otherwise if a woman gives advice she is womansplaining, and that’s not right, because only men are allowed to do it, which is why it’s called mansplaining.

Next you will be telling Mika that he can use that breast pump til the cows come home, when, to be fair to the cows it would be actually be more effective, and kinder, to milk them because their poor udders are probably really engorged with milk, unlike his breasts.