To think men can NEVER be mothers

[Leafstamp]

I am furious that men like this think they can call themselves mums/mothers. This deserves a wide audience, hence posting in AIBU.

(11) Paul Embery on Twitter: "ITV news did a piece about the impact of soaring water bills on an everyday mother. So naturally they got a man to play the part. t.co/b0ipO7loUE" / Twitter

Oh for a like button..

And the haaka on the draining board. Surely this is satire?!?!?

I do think mothers have an intuition and a desire to put their child above all else more so than fathers. In my experiences anyway. I don’t doubt my ex loves my kids as equally as I love them, but he had made many choices over the years which puts his own desires and wants over that of his children, whereas even at 18 & 15 I still put their well-being first. Men can be good dads, but mothers they are not

Did his skirt fall off at the end

Mother is a term defined in law. It has specific legal meaning which gives us rights.

"the status given to the person who undergoes the physical and biological process of being pregnant, carrying and giving birth to a child."

It is not a man's to use nor for any woman to blithely give it away to because she doesn't understand its importance.

So if a woman wants to be a dad and a man wants to be a mum, then whatever. That’s quite aside from the trans issue.

People can want to be anything, it doesn’t make them that thing and quite clearly no one else will think they are that think when they aren’t!

Just like everyone here know that the man in question here is in NO WAY a mum, not matter how much he wants to be.

YABU

HE is clearly a woman and HE clearly is a Mother NOT a FATHER because HE says so 😂

There was a recent incident near me. I'm not going to discuss it as it's a current case. But the person involved is Andrew Miller going by Amy George so you can Google if you wish (Trigger Warning it involves kidnap & CSA). It's a horrible case but a worrying part was that he claimed (some of) his actions were 'motherly'. A very disturbed individual trying to draw society into his disturbed world. A man person cannot BE a mother. They can be an excellent Father, Uncle, Cousin etc. Even stand 'in place of' an absent Mother but they cannot BE one. Its really important to be clear, especially in cases like this one.

I'd be interested in how much of the actual motherwork/mental load trans woman who insist on being called mothers do.

I'll be interested when no one can understand anyone else because we've all decided to call things by the wrong names.

Maybe you should ask him seeing as he feels the need to call himself a mother. Why can’t he be happy with being a father?

So if a woman wants to be a dad and a man wants to be a mum, then whatever. That’s quite aside from the trans issue

yeah, fuck the English language, who needs it…🤨

Women are not allowed to use the word 'mother', but this man is?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-56372118

https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/uk-world-news/councils-told-stop-using-terms-25190763

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/23396055.oxfams-inclusive-language-guide-advises-avoid-mother-youth/

No man can be a mother. Enough.

Interesting isn't it, because the implication is that being a mother is somehow more than being a father.

And this man wants that more. They'd be far better off fighting the stereotype/mores that perpetuate this attitude. Women would bloody love it. Instead, they piss us all of mightily, makes themselves look like a twat and undermine their cause. Own goal?

Yes.

Well done Rosie Diffiels for staying strong against the odd backlash she is getting on twitter for pointing out the legal meaning of mother.

You really think that is the only meaning of mother?

It cultural appropriation and would be recognised as such with any other demographic. But as it's only women, we're expected to be silent & watch our language and identity be taken over by others.
Disrespectful in the extreme.

@TeaKlaxon Clymene was clearly talking about the way mother is defined in law. She did not make any claim that that is the only definition.

Mother can also be a verb or mean a female ancestor. Obviously adoptive mothers are also mothers. But mothers are never male, that’s for sure.

Exactly @MrsOvertonsWindow .

If mumsnet could stop telling us we can't say that men aren't women and deleting our messages that would be great.

Men in womensface want to appropriate EVERYTHING that women have/do/say. They are so jealous of natural born women they appear to want to erase us.

ITV running the story with a trans person who is a man with a penis saying he is a woman (because he wears a skirt and dangly earrings). This particular man in a dress has been on TV before, he is an activist for a trans lobby group. Watching all the handmaidens running around bending over themselves to show how 'inclusive' they are. It's pathetic. He is pathetic. Did you see the milk pump on the washing up drainer!

ah but then the handmaidens would not be happy. Men in dresses come first, don't you know and we all have to go along with the charade because they feel like a woman. How the heck would they actually know what a woman feels like, and we aren't a homogenous group either.

So glad I drew your attention to this thread @TeaKlaxon

Agree. It's past time we were allowed to state this basic, simple truth.