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Should I ruin everything for everyone or AIBU?

217 replies

HadMeAtCello · 26/06/2023 19:27

Not a professional Mumsnet person - so might not be great at posting - but have created such a web of lies to stop friends and family worrying/judging in real life that I need some perspective please.

It's a long story but here's the short-ish version. I started dating DH when we were in college. We were sixteen then - we're in our thirties now. We've got two primary school aged DC and got married not long ago. Our relationship has always been tumultuous. Mainly because he could never 'settle' but would never leave. Throughout our relationship he's had a history of getting drunk to excess, going out all night with no way of contacting him, cheating with other women. Rinse. Repeat.

There's also been some fairly abusive behaviour which I've come to realise isn't acceptable. Things like driving recklessly - trying to frighten me - with me and the kids in the car (even though I was screaming for him to stop). On several occasions he's started an argument and then stormed off to his parents/friends house for up to 3/4 months - leaving me with both children. There's also a physical side - I know lots of women are living through unimaginable domestic violence and this is nothing compared to that but on at least ten occasions over the past 15 years he has been violent (hitting/punching/shoving).

On the most recent occasion, DH lost it because of something I said to him - he couldn't recall what it was that I'd said, he got right up in my face and started threatening me, DS was present and started shouting 'don't hurt my mummy' as he was dragging me about. DH stormed out and was gone for three months over the Christmas period. On the advice of a concerned manager I logged the bruises with my doctor - I'd never taken this step before even though I've had lots of bruises from him.

This was the first time DH has been like that in front of the children and it frightened me that things were progressing like that. It was a really difficult few months - I was very down but tried my best to make it a nice Christmas for the children. They were really badly affected and cried a lot saying they missed him - he did take them for the odd overnight visit and continued to contribute towards bills. I didn't ask for him to come back though as I felt relieved and like this might have been a natural end to the relationship and maybe we could have put some better arrangements in place to role model better behaviour/relationships for the children.

However, as time wore on, DC began to have some emotional issues at school and DH started asking to come back. I felt like I was ruining everything for everyone so I let him come back and he has been sleeping on the sofa for five months. He does an equal share of the childcare and household duties but we are like ships in the night. Once the children are stowed away for the night - I go to my room and he hangs out in the living room.

Anyway, I had a couple of glasses of prosecco this weekend and ended up getting really upset and messy in front of a number of the mums at school. I'm absolutely mortified and take full responsibility for my behaviour - I shouldn't be drinking if I'm not in control but I realise that I'm not OK at all - it's always in the back of my mind and I just don't ever see anything changing. I was open about what went down at Christmas to family and friends but as time wore on people stopped asking how things were as I'm not falling apart and I guess they assume that I've got a handle on things. There is no handle - otherwise I could open the door and exit.

So....Should I ruin everything for everyone and try and move me and the kids back in with my parents/ try to make it on my own?

YABU - these things happen, relationships are hard work and things will get better with time.

YANBU - there's only one life - nothing is worth being this unhappy.

Any advice appreciated. Does this relationship sound like it could be saved? I've done such a shit job at managing it over the past 15 years that I genuinely don't know what I'm doing or if I can trust myself.

OP posts:
mayorofcasterbridge · 26/06/2023 20:37

Tell your parents. You will need their support. Also contact Women's Aid for practical support.

I can't imagine how you married him as it seems fairly recent.

This is a dreadful situation and you need to get out of it as fast as you can. Take care x

TempyBrennan · 26/06/2023 20:38

It can’t be saved and it shouldn’t be saved.

Re read this post as if it were anyone else in the word and see what everyone else sees. He’s abusive, a cheat, a gaslighter and life would be better without him, for everyone.

Bluebells1970 · 26/06/2023 20:40

Don't ruin your kids lives by carrying on this relationship "for them".

They won't thank you.

Bunce1 · 26/06/2023 20:42

Arguments- yes normal
Arguments infront of kids- not great, but it happens
driving the car recklessly with children in the car- abuse
hitting, punching, shoving, pulling- abuse
keeping you in a web of lies and isolating you from family- abuse
leaving and no communication-abuse

he is an abuser. He is dangerous and toxic. He has really hurt you. It won’t stop.

muster every little bit of courage you have left, and leave this man, tell your family. Get help. It can be done.

pontipinemum · 26/06/2023 20:44

This is awful, just awful to read this. It is not normal. You and your children all deserve better. Leave whatever it takes, leave.

Equalitea · 26/06/2023 20:44

You will be saving yourself and your children by staying away from him.

alwaysmovingforwards · 26/06/2023 20:45

What you're going through is not ok.

And if you're accepting of it, you're passing that down to the next generation.

Get help and support to separate imo.

Feetupteashot · 26/06/2023 20:46

Either leave immediately if you feel unsafe.

Or speak to a lawyer first. Try and get a copy of his income or bank account statement if it's lying around

Write a note in a diary of dates and types of bullshit

Good luck. Sounds horrendous x

thaisweetchill · 26/06/2023 20:52

The only person ruining this is him.

It's clear you can live without him as you have done for those periods of time. Your child will remember that incident for the rest of their lives, please don't let it happen again.

Leave. Now.

Puppers · 26/06/2023 20:55

Tough love time.

You have a responsibility as a parent to protect your children from harm. So does your husband, but he's not here asking for advice and you can't control what he does; only what you do.

Your children have witnessed the abuse that you've suffered at their father's hands. They have also been direct victims of his abuse and have had their lives endangered. They have been frightened, are not developing in a safe environment, and will carry that trauma forward with them. Do not underestimate the damage that is being done to them.

You have the power to remove your children from this dangerous situation and you share responsibility for the impact on them every day you choose not to.

You need to seek professional support because this man is dangerous and has already put your children’s lives at risk to punish you. Women’s Aid can help. You need to report the car incident to the police and seek legal advice RE custody arrangements in light of his violence. You talk about moving in with your mum so presumably you can access family support.

You are a “boiled frog”; you’ve become desensitised and conditioned. You need to understand how serious this actually is and act.

YoucancallmeKAREN · 26/06/2023 20:55

I lived like you for nearly 2 decades and i regret the impact it has had on my children. I should have left the very first time he crossed the line. Leave him and leave him soon, the very best thing you can do is to is refuse to let him ruin your life and that of your children. Leaving is the best thing for you and your children.

ferntwist · 26/06/2023 20:56

YANBU. This is not normal at all. He’s an abusive danger to you and an emotional danger to your kids. Please don’t continue living with this man

YoucancallmeKAREN · 26/06/2023 20:57

HadMeAtCello Please read and take note of Puppers post.

weirdoboelady · 26/06/2023 20:58

Well done for getting to the point where you can consider leaving him.
Well done for posting on here.
Well done for enduring so much.

Now, please trust me when I say he WILL have worn you down, and when you have left him there WILL come a point where you can see as clearly as every poster on this thread that you NEED to leave him. Talk to your parents when it is safe to do so, and see if they can help. Talk to your local DV people (no, I don't know either. Just Google 'local support for DV in [insert name of town]' and DELETE YOUR SEARCH HISTORY when you have noted what you want.

Theoneandonlyjrae · 26/06/2023 21:00

Sounds horrible and you have put up with it for so long. Have a look at this video. It's unbelievable how much damage it causes children being in that environment. I would definitely be asking him to leave in your case.

Lira715 · 26/06/2023 21:01

Leave him op, you and your children deserve better than this, it will be hard but 100% worth it in the long run.

Keha · 26/06/2023 21:03

Leave him.

twoandcooplease · 26/06/2023 21:04

Handhold
Yes of course you should leave. And you ARE strong enough to do it. Your children ARE resilient and strong and they need their mum to not be hurt anymore. Emotionally or physically or anything else.

When kids come along it changes things. You are their protector. It'll be hard but protect them from this violence I promise it will be better than right now xxx

Zimunya · 26/06/2023 21:08

I can’t get my phone to use the voting buttons - but YANBU! Please leave him. You deserve so much better. And in the long run your kids will be so much happier and secure than they would be living their whole lives waiting for the bout of violence. Wishing you strength and courage xx

DancingLights · 26/06/2023 21:12

Definitely leave. You and your children deserve happiness and a safe environment away from such a man. Please listen to other posters who have much wiser words and advice.

ManchesterMama1 · 26/06/2023 21:14

I’m so sorry you’ve endured this.

You and your children deserve 1000 times better.

Unless he is willing to go to therapy for his deep rooted issues and swears to never lay a finger on you again I would 100% leave him.

I know that won’t be an easy choice as he’s the father of your children but this is really not ok.

I could not imagine living in fear of my husband. There are lots of charities out there who can support you ❤️ Sending love xx

Superdupes · 26/06/2023 21:17

'I know lots of women are living through unimaginable domestic violence and this is nothing compared to that.'

Really? In a race to the bottom I think you're getting close to winning to be honest. What would he have to do to make this 'something'? Put you in hospital? Kill you?

You and the children deserve a million times better than this. You need to safeguard them as they are being emotionally abused here - fearing their mum is going to be hurt, seeing his behaviour towards you - they are not learning what a healthy, loving relationship looks like. This is not ok and this will affect them long term. You also need to look after yourself, your own mental health and self esteem.

You will not be ruining everything for everyone by leaving, you will be showing your kids that this is not an acceptable way to live and not an acceptable relationship for you to be in.

Caterina99 · 26/06/2023 21:18

OP you need to leave. For your children’s sake, if not for your own.

readbooksdrinktea · 26/06/2023 21:23

"Don't hurt my mummy" is just utterly heartbreaking. Please protect your children from growing up feeling like this ever again.

MavisMcMinty · 26/06/2023 21:23

There was a thread here a couple of months ago about a 16-year old girl who finished with her 16-year old boyfriend when he cheated on her, and then called the police on him when he became all lovelorn and a bit stalkery. I remember thinking what a great lesson it was for that boy - firstly, if you cheat you get chucked, and secondly, “no means no”.

It’s a shame OP’s awful husband hasn’t been taught these vital lessons at a more impressionable age, but there’s still time for him to learn them from @HadMeAtCello .

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