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Should I ruin everything for everyone or AIBU?

217 replies

HadMeAtCello · 26/06/2023 19:27

Not a professional Mumsnet person - so might not be great at posting - but have created such a web of lies to stop friends and family worrying/judging in real life that I need some perspective please.

It's a long story but here's the short-ish version. I started dating DH when we were in college. We were sixteen then - we're in our thirties now. We've got two primary school aged DC and got married not long ago. Our relationship has always been tumultuous. Mainly because he could never 'settle' but would never leave. Throughout our relationship he's had a history of getting drunk to excess, going out all night with no way of contacting him, cheating with other women. Rinse. Repeat.

There's also been some fairly abusive behaviour which I've come to realise isn't acceptable. Things like driving recklessly - trying to frighten me - with me and the kids in the car (even though I was screaming for him to stop). On several occasions he's started an argument and then stormed off to his parents/friends house for up to 3/4 months - leaving me with both children. There's also a physical side - I know lots of women are living through unimaginable domestic violence and this is nothing compared to that but on at least ten occasions over the past 15 years he has been violent (hitting/punching/shoving).

On the most recent occasion, DH lost it because of something I said to him - he couldn't recall what it was that I'd said, he got right up in my face and started threatening me, DS was present and started shouting 'don't hurt my mummy' as he was dragging me about. DH stormed out and was gone for three months over the Christmas period. On the advice of a concerned manager I logged the bruises with my doctor - I'd never taken this step before even though I've had lots of bruises from him.

This was the first time DH has been like that in front of the children and it frightened me that things were progressing like that. It was a really difficult few months - I was very down but tried my best to make it a nice Christmas for the children. They were really badly affected and cried a lot saying they missed him - he did take them for the odd overnight visit and continued to contribute towards bills. I didn't ask for him to come back though as I felt relieved and like this might have been a natural end to the relationship and maybe we could have put some better arrangements in place to role model better behaviour/relationships for the children.

However, as time wore on, DC began to have some emotional issues at school and DH started asking to come back. I felt like I was ruining everything for everyone so I let him come back and he has been sleeping on the sofa for five months. He does an equal share of the childcare and household duties but we are like ships in the night. Once the children are stowed away for the night - I go to my room and he hangs out in the living room.

Anyway, I had a couple of glasses of prosecco this weekend and ended up getting really upset and messy in front of a number of the mums at school. I'm absolutely mortified and take full responsibility for my behaviour - I shouldn't be drinking if I'm not in control but I realise that I'm not OK at all - it's always in the back of my mind and I just don't ever see anything changing. I was open about what went down at Christmas to family and friends but as time wore on people stopped asking how things were as I'm not falling apart and I guess they assume that I've got a handle on things. There is no handle - otherwise I could open the door and exit.

So....Should I ruin everything for everyone and try and move me and the kids back in with my parents/ try to make it on my own?

YABU - these things happen, relationships are hard work and things will get better with time.

YANBU - there's only one life - nothing is worth being this unhappy.

Any advice appreciated. Does this relationship sound like it could be saved? I've done such a shit job at managing it over the past 15 years that I genuinely don't know what I'm doing or if I can trust myself.

OP posts:
Zarataralara · 26/06/2023 20:12

It won’t get better. Sorry.
He won’t change into a nice person — what you see and experience is what you’ve got.
His behaviour is disgustingly awful and it’s had an awful effect on you. Sadly, it will affect your children too and they may grow up to accept abuse as normal.
Leave asap. Contact Women’s Aid for support.

Macaroni46 · 26/06/2023 20:13

He's the one ruining everything, not you! He's messed with your mind as well as hurt you physically so that you actually believe you'll ruin things by leaving. You're being horribly abused. You need to leave him.
My heart goes out to you. I know it's hard to leave an abuser but you can do it, for your sanity and for your DC.

CC222 · 26/06/2023 20:13

You need to do your best to leave and end this situation.
He is so abusive and it's escalating. Now the kids see the violence, what will be next too? Will they be at the receiving end of the violence? That's a scary thought!
He knows no boundaries!
The emotional problems your kids are experiencing is because what they are witnessing at home. They're kids, so of course they're going to want their dad around. But can you honestly be comfortable subjecting them to seeing that abuse for many more years to come? They deserve so much better, and so do you...
He can still be a dad without you having to be together.
I know it won't be easy to start over, but it won't be a complete shock the system. You've had months at a time doing it alone and you managed it.
It's really important you end this relationship now, because seeing this abuse will shape the adults your kids become and you won't be able to change that when that happens x

Qbish · 26/06/2023 20:14

I think you should stay with him. He sounds like an absolute peach, and is teaching your son how to behave towards women, and your daughter how she can expect to be treated by men.

Newnamenewname109870 · 26/06/2023 20:16

I’m sad that it’s got to the point where you think leaving him is the crazy option.

elliebelliex · 26/06/2023 20:17

You need to get a restraining order on that fucker

newtb · 26/06/2023 20:18

As with everyone else, ltb, but also report to the police.

StopStartStop · 26/06/2023 20:19

Get out, and get your children out.

Dreamer8 · 26/06/2023 20:19

The only way you'll ruin everything is by staying with this piece of shit.

Begonne · 26/06/2023 20:19

I can’t remember the statistic, but I think on average it takes 6 or 7 attempts to leave an abusive partner before finally making it.

And I don’t know if that includes the women killed in the attempt.

Ring Womens Aid Op and speak to them about what’s going on. Friends and family are often the worst advisors in these situations. It can be hard to get through on their phone lines so be prepared to keep trying.

You can break free from this and give your dc the kind of life and stability you want for them. It’s hard. But you can do this.

Ferferksake · 26/06/2023 20:22

Run for the fucking hills.

The kids don't need to see this. They will copy his behaviour. Break the cycle.

Budikka · 26/06/2023 20:22

There is only one answer. Leave.

KarmaStar · 26/06/2023 20:23

Lovely,NONE of this is your fault.
Your husband is a violent nasty piece of work.
Please make preparations to make a new life for you and your dc and never look back.You can do this.make a promise to yourself to show your dc a good,happy life.💐💐

Missingmyusername · 26/06/2023 20:25

See a solicitor and leave. Leave before he starts on your children- he will and social services will be involved. Don’t enable him to beat your children up.

Contact women’s aid. Get things documented. Call the police. Get your name down on the council waiting list.

Moveoverdarlin · 26/06/2023 20:25

People have stopped asking how you are because you always take him back so what else is there left to say. He sounds like an utter loser. Leave him.

MargotBamborough · 26/06/2023 20:28

YANBU.

You only have one life to live. Don't let him cut yours short, either by taking away your enjoyment of it, or by literally beating you to death.

Your children deserve to grow up in a home where they and you are safe and happy.

Ophy83 · 26/06/2023 20:29

Please read In Control by Jane Monckton-Smith.. it's essential reading!

MumblesParty · 26/06/2023 20:30

You didn’t enable voting but I’m sure 100% of posters will say you should end this relationship. It sounds horrific. And it’ll be damaging your children terribly.

Slatkater · 26/06/2023 20:30

Americano75 · 26/06/2023 19:43

Jesus Christ, get out before he kills you!

That’s my thought. Leave him asap.

AfraidToRun · 26/06/2023 20:32

You deserve better.

He will never change.

Go to your parents, never look back. Come back to mumsnet in 5 years to tell us how much happier and healthier you and your children are.

If you feel able specialist domestic abuse services may be able to help. Please don't worry about if its bad enough, I used them despite my ex never hitting me and they were very helpful and kind. Everything I didnt know I had been missing.

Ladybug14 · 26/06/2023 20:33

Why would you put your children through this? WHY?

Of course you should leave him. Now. Leave now.

briansgardenshed · 26/06/2023 20:34

Leave. Speak to women's aid about the practicalities (home, kids, money etc), then go. Such a shame OP, this is no way to live. People on here are good and some have been through it so will help. End this.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 26/06/2023 20:34

The reason you've told lies to people about the state of your relationship in the past is because you're ashamed. You shouldn't be, but you are. You know this isn't okay and if it was anyone else in your life (sister, daughter, mum etc) you'd tell them to run and you'd help them.

Don't treat yourself worse than he does. You deserve so much more.

Choice4567 · 26/06/2023 20:35

I don’t understand, what would you be ruining and for who?

ANewAdventure · 26/06/2023 20:36

You absolutely need to leave. Before he gets more violent, before he kills you, before he shows your children that violence and abuse are normal in relationships and they grow up to perpetuate that.

When you need strength, imagine how you’d feel in 20 years time when you see those suspicious bruises on your DS’s girlfriend. Because if you keep him in an environment like this, the chance increases that he continues that violence.

Ring women’s aid, or your local domestic violence charity, or just run to your parents house with the kids. It’s so common for it to take multiple tries to get out, but you need to make this the last time. But do get proper professional help from women’s aid or another domestic abuse charity. They can help you with advice and support.