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AIBU?

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Should I ruin everything for everyone or AIBU?

217 replies

HadMeAtCello · 26/06/2023 19:27

Not a professional Mumsnet person - so might not be great at posting - but have created such a web of lies to stop friends and family worrying/judging in real life that I need some perspective please.

It's a long story but here's the short-ish version. I started dating DH when we were in college. We were sixteen then - we're in our thirties now. We've got two primary school aged DC and got married not long ago. Our relationship has always been tumultuous. Mainly because he could never 'settle' but would never leave. Throughout our relationship he's had a history of getting drunk to excess, going out all night with no way of contacting him, cheating with other women. Rinse. Repeat.

There's also been some fairly abusive behaviour which I've come to realise isn't acceptable. Things like driving recklessly - trying to frighten me - with me and the kids in the car (even though I was screaming for him to stop). On several occasions he's started an argument and then stormed off to his parents/friends house for up to 3/4 months - leaving me with both children. There's also a physical side - I know lots of women are living through unimaginable domestic violence and this is nothing compared to that but on at least ten occasions over the past 15 years he has been violent (hitting/punching/shoving).

On the most recent occasion, DH lost it because of something I said to him - he couldn't recall what it was that I'd said, he got right up in my face and started threatening me, DS was present and started shouting 'don't hurt my mummy' as he was dragging me about. DH stormed out and was gone for three months over the Christmas period. On the advice of a concerned manager I logged the bruises with my doctor - I'd never taken this step before even though I've had lots of bruises from him.

This was the first time DH has been like that in front of the children and it frightened me that things were progressing like that. It was a really difficult few months - I was very down but tried my best to make it a nice Christmas for the children. They were really badly affected and cried a lot saying they missed him - he did take them for the odd overnight visit and continued to contribute towards bills. I didn't ask for him to come back though as I felt relieved and like this might have been a natural end to the relationship and maybe we could have put some better arrangements in place to role model better behaviour/relationships for the children.

However, as time wore on, DC began to have some emotional issues at school and DH started asking to come back. I felt like I was ruining everything for everyone so I let him come back and he has been sleeping on the sofa for five months. He does an equal share of the childcare and household duties but we are like ships in the night. Once the children are stowed away for the night - I go to my room and he hangs out in the living room.

Anyway, I had a couple of glasses of prosecco this weekend and ended up getting really upset and messy in front of a number of the mums at school. I'm absolutely mortified and take full responsibility for my behaviour - I shouldn't be drinking if I'm not in control but I realise that I'm not OK at all - it's always in the back of my mind and I just don't ever see anything changing. I was open about what went down at Christmas to family and friends but as time wore on people stopped asking how things were as I'm not falling apart and I guess they assume that I've got a handle on things. There is no handle - otherwise I could open the door and exit.

So....Should I ruin everything for everyone and try and move me and the kids back in with my parents/ try to make it on my own?

YABU - these things happen, relationships are hard work and things will get better with time.

YANBU - there's only one life - nothing is worth being this unhappy.

Any advice appreciated. Does this relationship sound like it could be saved? I've done such a shit job at managing it over the past 15 years that I genuinely don't know what I'm doing or if I can trust myself.

OP posts:
NerrSnerr · 26/06/2023 19:48

He's drives dangerously with your children in the car as a way to scare you. Your son witnessed him being physically abusive.

You need to speak to women's aid and get away from him. You should also consider reporting the abuse to the police.

You need to protect your children from this abusive man.

HundredMilesAnHour · 26/06/2023 19:49

Jesus OP. Before the end of your first paragraph it was clear that you're worth so much more than this and need to leave him. But OMG then it just turns into an absolute horror story. Of course you need to leave him! YABU for not having got rid of him a long time ago. Poor you. Your poor kids! They sound traumatised by this. Please get away from this man asap.

Brightbear · 26/06/2023 19:49

I am sorry your life is so awful, leave him please.

VeterinaryCareAssistant · 26/06/2023 19:49

Kick him out.

PrincessofWellies · 26/06/2023 19:53

You need to remove yourself and your children before someone reports this to social services. Your children should and will be removed by an application to court for care orders if you will not protect them.

fishonabicycle · 26/06/2023 19:53

What the actual fuck? Your partner is violent and cheats - how can it possibly be spoiling everything to ditch him? He's a total cunt and HE is the one who has spoilt everything by being that cunt.

RunningFromInsanity · 26/06/2023 19:53

Imma be blunt. You are being a terrible mother by allowing your children to be around this and being put in actual danger.

billy1966 · 26/06/2023 19:55

He is an absolute horror.

A violent abusive thug.

Your poor children seeing their father attack their mother.

Kick the scum out.

Tell you family and friends the truth.

Get rid of this awful man from your home.

MavisMcMinty · 26/06/2023 19:56

I sometimes wonder how many “LTB”s it takes in replies to threads like this to convince OPs to LTB, so just in case it takes HUNDREDS rather than dozens…

LTB, you have to, he’s an arsehole who brings absolutely nothing good into your life or your children’s lives.

LTFB

For everyone’s sake.

usererror99 · 26/06/2023 19:56

I just don't get it? Why would you stay with a man who repeatedly and consistently disrespects you by cheating and leaving for months on end not to mention the violence? Where is the self respect? Why would you put your children through that

Els1e · 26/06/2023 19:58

YANBU! Hope all goes well for you. You and your kids deserve a happy life

FuckOffTom · 26/06/2023 20:01

OP read over what you’ve written and imagine a friend telling you her marriage was like this. What would you say?

twilightermummy · 26/06/2023 20:02

I always give the same advice to people who post about situations like this. I've been there. I'd you don't leave and it comes out that he's been abusive around the children or, God forbid, he does it again (next time will be worse as he knows you've left him before and statistically this makes them more violent) then, Social Services will question why you didn't leave him before. They will look into previous incidents and again question why you weren't safeguarding the children from experiencing this. Family courts are brutal and won't protect you just because you were abused. If his treatment of you won't make you leave then consider seriously losing your children then ask yourself if that's worth staying for. I have been a part of the Freedom Programme (well worth you doing) with women who had lost their children because they wouldn't leave him.
I really hope you get the strength to get out. Dont knock yourself because he's still there. It takes women multiple times to leave. However, from your numbers, he's assaulted you almost once every year at least. It sounds a miserable life x

FuckOffTom · 26/06/2023 20:02

RunningFromInsanity · 26/06/2023 19:53

Imma be blunt. You are being a terrible mother by allowing your children to be around this and being put in actual danger.

I don’t think it’s helpful to call her that. Guys like that wear women down and their sense of reality becomes skewed. It’s his fault, not hers. But she should absolutely leave.

SayHi · 26/06/2023 20:02

Is it his house?
If not then get him to leave.

You have allowed this behaviour for way too long and now you have to decide what’s more important - him or your child? Because you can’t have both.

Don’t feel embarrassed about getting drunk and blurting everything out as obviously you needed this and at least you won’t feel as alone now.

HelpIcantfindaname · 26/06/2023 20:02

Please please leave.
I married my first husband at 16 because I was pregnant. He became abusive (& drank too much & smoked weed). He spent all of our money in the pub. He didn't always hit me, he'd smash things in the house. I came close to leaving many times but always caved. The abuse had left me with no self esteem.
Eventually, I went to college & realised how wrong my life was. I moved me & our 3 kids back to my parents.
I thought my children hadn't been affected as they were mostly asleep in bed. It was many years before they told me they heard lots of the arguments.
But worse, my oldest daughter had a few abusive relationships...she was choosing partners exactly like her dad & her children were suffering.
It took years to get her to see it & accept she needed help. She did the Freedom Program & now has a wonderful husband.
Please please leave, keep yourself & your children safe & you will all have a much happier life without your partner.

junebirthdaygirl · 26/06/2023 20:03

Can you get him barred from the house due to your injuries? Could you talk to your local police and start to build a file?

Grumpy101 · 26/06/2023 20:05

You need to protect your children. They are being damaged so badly by being in that environment, subjected to the stress and witnessing the violence. Yes, they'll miss him but they're kids, they don't know any better right now. They will also resent you when they grow older. By staying, you are unfortunately facilitating the abuse.

Innocents4321 · 26/06/2023 20:06

rubyslippers · 26/06/2023 19:29

Leave him
he is physically abusive
he cheats on you
he sounds absolutely horrendous
go and don’t look back

I can’t really say it any better. You are so used to shit that you can’t imagine life without it.

RunningFromInsanity · 26/06/2023 20:07

FuckOffTom · 26/06/2023 20:02

I don’t think it’s helpful to call her that. Guys like that wear women down and their sense of reality becomes skewed. It’s his fault, not hers. But she should absolutely leave.

No, I’m sorry but if you can physically write the words ‘DS was present and started shouting 'don't hurt my mummy' as he was dragging me about.’ and then go on and ask if the relationship can be saved, you are not doing your duty as a mother.

Densol57 · 26/06/2023 20:09

I cannot find the voting buttons ! Ive never wanted to press YANBU more so than ever !!

OMG - what a monster he is 🤬
LEAVE !
He will kill you / destroy your kids
They must live in fear every day 😢

please leave ❤️

FuckOffTom · 26/06/2023 20:10

RunningFromInsanity · 26/06/2023 20:07

No, I’m sorry but if you can physically write the words ‘DS was present and started shouting 'don't hurt my mummy' as he was dragging me about.’ and then go on and ask if the relationship can be saved, you are not doing your duty as a mother.

I understand where you are coming from, I guess I’m just suggesting having a little more compassion for the OP. She is obviously in a fragile state.
But I do agree that this will be horrific for her children to witness.

TheCatterall · 26/06/2023 20:10

Please don’t presume that friends and family that know about it can guess what goes on, know about the repeating behaviour and separations don’t care or that they think you should be together. Often those of us on the sidelines give our advice the first time or when asked… but when we see our loved one take this person back time and time again or never leave… maybe we stop saying anything as you seem to have accepted this or aren’t ready or in a position to do anything about it. We are still here. On the sidelines for you. But we don’t want to add pressure onto you. We don’t want you feeling like we are disappointed in you. We don’t want you thinking you have to pretend everything is ok. If you want something or support - reach about and ask. I’m sure folks are ready to help.

but @HadMeAtCello this man shouldn’t be around you in a family home. He’s no good for any of you. Please talk to the women’s support charities and get advice.

Elevensesatnoon · 26/06/2023 20:11

Take your children (and as much paperwork as you can gather - if you can birth certificates passports /bank statements - but only if you can ) and go to your parents - nothing else really matters other than that you and they are safe - tell your parents everything

Gettingfleeced · 26/06/2023 20:12

How bad do you want it to get before you think it's over?

Pease don't minimise in your head what he has done by saying "others have it worse". Yes, maybe some do, but they all started in your shoes and stayed until it got worse. Go now. You aren't ruining anything for anyone by leaving. You are saving yourself, you are saving your children's mum, you are saving your parents' daughter... What advice would you give your own child in this situation?