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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To go round to neighbours in the morning?

224 replies

MonkeyDoodles · 09/06/2023 22:45

Because I have totally had enough.
Next door neighbours just had a loud party from 5.30PM to only now just finishing up. Loud screeching and screaming from the kids, hot tub and all the noise that comes from that, DIY also done in the middle of it all. My whole evening has been a write off because of them.
This is constant. Kids range from 4 years to 10 years and scream and holler to each other constantly for hours on end. My other family members don't want to confront them as are worried about causing an argument but I honestly feel it is having a massive impact on my mental health. Aibu to go round there and tell them it's not on even if my family disagree? It is actually unbearable and causing a lot of arguments in my own home.

OP posts:
123rainbow · 10/06/2023 09:14

Other people's noise is so intrusive and I don't think it's right that your neighbours do this all the time. There is a lot of selfish and entitled people, that assume everyone else should accept it. T o be fair thought, if you've never told them they might not be aware of how it effects you. It's sometime hard to control kids noise, my child has AS D and can't control the noises he makes. Although he doesn't get to scream all day,

Purplepeaches123 · 10/06/2023 09:15

That would drive me mad. I have 4 kids and whilst they played in the garden they weren’t allowed to shout and scream. Of course when they had parties at home when they were little there was noise but screaming in particular is awful and I never understand why kids are allowed to do it in the garden.

TimesRwo · 10/06/2023 09:27

drpet49 · 10/06/2023 07:09

OP stated it is a very regular occurrence. I’d be fed up too

The children playing outside is a regular occurrence. Not the party.

Murdoch1949 · 10/06/2023 09:47

You did not say it was EVERY SINGLE DAY, which is a dubious claim, you said it was CONSTANT, but I certainly took that to mean on the day to which you referred.

Ardiaei · 10/06/2023 10:03

The 11pm rule comes under the Noise Act and usually applies to places like pubs and events etc.

In the 1996 Noise Act the 11pm rule absolutely does apply to domestic premises as well.

[F6(a)]another dwelling (referred to in this group of sections as “the offending dwelling”)[F7, or

(b)any premises in respect of which a premises licence or a temporary event notice has effect (referred to in this group of sections as “the offending premises”)

Councils can investigate statutory noise nuisance at any time of day. In reality it is going to be very difficult to do something about that sort of noise if it stops before 11pm.

The system is set up so it’s quite easy for councils to issue warnings for noise after 11pm (which you can have done for domestic premises - I have done it).

What you are describing is likely going to be considered reasonable if it’s stopping at 10.30. Kids screaming, most music from a house, loud DIY etc is usually going to be considered reasonable if before 11pm. Generally standard considered unreasonable is burglar alarms, loudspeakers in the street over a certain volume, noise after 11pm. What action to take against people with barking dogs will depend on the judgement of individual officers if not between 11pm and 7am.

Batalax · 10/06/2023 10:05

I think most people sympathise but are being realistic as to how much good it would do to complain.
I wouldn’t go round specifically, but I would try to drop it into conversation when you naturally meet. I’d also pick the worst aspect of it and only mention that. If they are reasonable, and will take note of that, it might make them realise about the rest of it too. If they aren’t reasonable, then you won’t piss them off too much if you only mention one bit.

I assume it’s just general noise rather than proper parties if there was diy going on too. I’d concentrate on the screaming. Perhaps a variation on this

“Sounds like you are really enjoying the garden in this lovely weather. So nice to get some sun at last. Lovely to hear the kids enjoying it too, but would it be possible to ask them to keep the noise down a bit? They are just a bit too screamy and yelly. It would be great and I’d really appreciate it if you could remind them to just keep their voices to a bit of a lower level. Hope that’s ok?. Cheers”

LegendsBeyond · 10/06/2023 10:20

Lilbunnyfufu · 09/06/2023 22:50

I agree.
Even in my tenancy agreement it's says we can play music until 11pm

It’s not about official agreements, it’s about basic manners & consideration for others. Some people give no thought to how their noise affects others. it’s horrible.

Ardiaei · 10/06/2023 10:44

LegendsBeyond · 10/06/2023 10:20

It’s not about official agreements, it’s about basic manners & consideration for others. Some people give no thought to how their noise affects others. it’s horrible.

I agree.

Aibu to go round there and tell them it's not on even if my family disagree? It is actually unbearable and causing a lot of arguments in my own home.

No you ANBU. If it’s affecting your mental health then talk to your neighbours about how it’s making you feel. I’m just saying you might not be able to do anything about it if they don’t agree. It’s defiantly worth a try if it’s seriously affecting your quality of life. The risk is it may make things awkward but that might pale into insignificance compared with the impact the noise is having.

I’ve done it. Be brave! We’re with you OP.

wineschmine · 10/06/2023 12:06

LifeIsPainHighness · 09/06/2023 22:46

Hmm I don’t think a 5 hour party starting at 5pm and ending at 10.30pm on a Friday is all that bad

Sorry Op, I agree with this.

If you cannot tolerate living in close proximity to people who really need to live in a house / area that allows for that.

People need to live their lives.

dottiedodah · 10/06/2023 12:21

If you go round will anything change? People like this are selfish and seem to think they can do whatever they like .Maybe nice weather can you go out for a drive ,walk or whatever .Even an hour or two out .You shouldnt have to obv ,but sometimes it makes it bearable.Unless they are noisy into the night ,I dont know if they are breaking any laws sadly

Hollyppp · 10/06/2023 12:50

LifeIsPainHighness · 09/06/2023 22:46

Hmm I don’t think a 5 hour party starting at 5pm and ending at 10.30pm on a Friday is all that bad

i agree. I think you’re fine to party til 11/12. After that it’s a bit anti social

vivainsomnia · 10/06/2023 13:08

In life, there are considerate and selfish people. It's random luck who you end up next to.

We had selfish, entitled, lazy people on both side a few years ago. The garden was the place to send their children to act as they wish whilst the parents hid in the house for some peace. For years, we had no garden at all and being there was so incredibly stressful.

Then one left and not long after, the other did too. We now have one neighbour with two kids who have taught their kids to be respectful. Their kids know how to play with screaming and screeching and if they get loud, the parents tell them to go back inside. They other neighbour is also respectful. Life is amazing.

It's no about sacrifice, it's about manners and learning to live in a society where we respect others around us.

CremeEgg1983 · 10/06/2023 14:06

@Hollyppp It's really not fine to party until 11/12 every night, or any night for that matter.

CremeEgg1983 · 10/06/2023 14:11

@Ardiaei That's why I said 'usually' applies to pubs and events.

I disagree that it is going to be difficult to stop any noise before 11pm. Any noise that is deemed a nuisance and persistent can be dealt with and that is at any time of the day if it is encroaching on another persons enjoyment of their home.

SophieStew · 10/06/2023 14:12

I think you asked the wrong question @MonkeyDoodles

If you had asked “would this piss you off?” then you would have got pages of posters saying yes, they would find it annoying.

But by asking if YABU to go round there and complain, yes YABU. There is fuck all you can do about the situation you described.

I would hate it too, but I would either put up or move. There isn’t really another option unless by some miracle you tell them how annoying they are, and they agree and it stops. I just don’t think that will be the outcome.

Do you?

shouldreallybeasleep · 10/06/2023 16:39

Speaking as someone who is quite recluse... get a grip!! 10:30?? They can legally make outside noise until 11. I know from your post you'd like validation but 10:30 in the summer is good, you should meet my neighbours 😳

DeadbeatYoda · 10/06/2023 17:11

Some families are loud. Some people are very noise sensitive. People are entitled to enjoy their outside spaces, Christ knows life is tough enough for most people, I can't begrudge them some fun in their own homes.
If I were you I'd move. In the mean time, get done ear plugs / noise cancelling headphones and live in a world of calming music. Winding yourself up about it hurts no one but you.

CremeEgg1983 · 10/06/2023 17:28

shouldreallybeasleep · 10/06/2023 16:39

Speaking as someone who is quite recluse... get a grip!! 10:30?? They can legally make outside noise until 11. I know from your post you'd like validation but 10:30 in the summer is good, you should meet my neighbours 😳

You cannot make persistent noise that interferes with the enjoyment of someone else's life. It had to be deemed unreasonable noise but it can be any time of day or night and action can be taken.

I personally would expect people to lower their volume from 9pm onward and have some consideration for other people.

UsingChangeofName · 10/06/2023 17:48

Well it's hard to say isn't it? One person's 'screeching' is another person's 'kids playing'. One person's 'music blaring' is another person's 'listening to music'. One person's 'late' is another person's 'early'.
One person's 'noisy DIY' is another person's 'getting jobs done'.

This, exactly.
None of us have any idea if the dc are playing normally and the OP is being ridiculously sensitive, and exaggerating for effect on here, or if they are actually being really unneighbourly. It seems unlikely they are "constantly" screeching and screaming" every night, but none of us know where on the spectrum of reasonableness either the OP or her neighbours are.

SapphireSeptember · 10/06/2023 20:00

This place is nuts sometimes. A couple of weeks ago an OP was castigated for letting her teenage sons play in their own back garden (after the bloke next door had had a right go at them.) This time OP is being told kids making noise is fine.

Dressydress · 10/06/2023 20:43

We have loud summer neighbours too. They aren't technically doing anything wrong. But I make an effort to keep mine at a reasonable nosie level and even the parents next door are loud. Music. Even when they talk its loud. She admits she has a problem with one of her ears bit refuses to go to the doctor! One quiet weekend in the garden would be lovely. But they aren't doing anything wrong however annoying it is. She also can't hear her dog whimpering to come in as she closes the door. Not sure why when she leaves it open all day apart from the morning when she let's him out for a wee. I've text her a few times and said your dog wants to go in.

Theunamedcat · 10/06/2023 20:45

Do they have an inflatable hot tub?

LolaSmiles · 10/06/2023 20:52

If you had asked “would this piss you off?” then you would have got pages of posters saying yes, they would find it annoying.

But by asking if YABU to go round there and complain, yes YABU. There is fuck all you can do about the situation you described

Agree with this. We live in a quiet street with a mix of residents, including young families. Everyone is reasonable and courteous.
Someone new moved in recently and seem to enjoy weekend evening parties with music, often the same few chart songs on repeat. We are several doors away and can hear the music and the loud conversations. It's annoying when they do, and I think it's a bit unreasonable given they've obviously chosen to move to a quiet area, but they seem to turn things down from 9pm and are either done by 10pm or have moved inside.
I'd be a bit of an arsehole to go round and complain because my preferences doesn't mean they're actually unreasonable.

Fuckthatguy · 10/06/2023 21:50

@Theunamedcat ’scuse the ignorance, but what is that??

Theunamedcat · 10/06/2023 23:09

Fuckthatguy · 10/06/2023 21:50

@Theunamedcat ’scuse the ignorance, but what is that??

Literally a blow up one they usually break easily and are not a problem for long