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AIBU?

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To go round to neighbours in the morning?

224 replies

MonkeyDoodles · 09/06/2023 22:45

Because I have totally had enough.
Next door neighbours just had a loud party from 5.30PM to only now just finishing up. Loud screeching and screaming from the kids, hot tub and all the noise that comes from that, DIY also done in the middle of it all. My whole evening has been a write off because of them.
This is constant. Kids range from 4 years to 10 years and scream and holler to each other constantly for hours on end. My other family members don't want to confront them as are worried about causing an argument but I honestly feel it is having a massive impact on my mental health. Aibu to go round there and tell them it's not on even if my family disagree? It is actually unbearable and causing a lot of arguments in my own home.

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JudgeRudy · 09/06/2023 23:54

Ditto. It's ghe weekend and it's not late

ilovemyspace · 10/06/2023 00:04

@MonkeyDoodles I feel your pain! I think many posters here just have no concept of what it feels like when people have no concept of 'old fashioned' values - such as consideration for neighbours.

These days it all seems to be ' I can do what I want' and people can f* off if they disagree
Maybe keep a noise diary and liaise with your the Environmental Services department at your local council? Or maybe ask a local solicitor (on one of their 30 mins free advice sessions?) for advice.
I wish you the very best of luck x

Bagsundermyeyestoday · 10/06/2023 00:09

Rapidtango · 09/06/2023 23:52

'if you want to live so loud and selfishly that it affects your neighbours, you should move to the middle of nowhere' actually makes more sense.

This. Absolutely this. People who are not arseholes and live their lives without impacting too much on others can live in close proximity. People who care not a jot for anyone else need to live in isolation so their selfish behaviour doesn't affect anyone else.

It's 'quiet enjoyment ', not 'it's my garden so I'll do what I fucking well please.'

The OP has as much right to expect peace and quiet to live her life in the way she would like.

Just imagine if everyone decided they were too special to follow the societal rules of decent behaviour, the rules that allow everyone to coexist peacefully - everyone plays loud music, allows their kids to scream, kick balls against fences etc etc. What a hellhole our lives would be.

Agree 💯
Having unreasonably loud neighbours is extremely soul destroying

StarbucksSmarterSister · 10/06/2023 00:14

I HATE the sound of shouting and screeching and personally avoid the garden all summer not because of any direct neighbors but rather because it's the sound of British summer time. The thwump thwump of awful music, kids screaming and shouting, uncouth arseholes hollering back and forth from inside to outside their homes, rowdy drinking men (and women) and packs of teens shrieking and playing shit tinny music on their phones. Cackling laughter, crying children, all of it.

Not anywhere I've ever lived and I've always been semi detached or terraced. I currently have 3 lots of kids living in the 4 neighbouring houses and only get normal noise, with a little more in holidays, but not excessive because their parents aren't arseholes.

Try to learn to enjoy the garden in the autumn and winter. The sounds are less intrusive.

And it's cold! Who wants to sit in the garden then?

OP, I really hate to say this, but move. You shouldn't have to and it sounds like it would be difficult to conduct viewings if they're constantly like this but they won't change.

UsingChangeofName · 10/06/2023 00:23

People clearly aren't reading my OP or are being deliberately obtuse. Either that or they are the sort who let their kids holler and scream in the garden every single day with no thought for the neighbours.

No, we have read your OP, and no-one is being obtuse.
We just think it isn't unreasonable for people to be out in their gardens until 10.30 / 10.45 in the evening.
Obviously, it would be nice if they were a bit quieter, but that is just the thing with having neighbours - sometimes you hit lucky and never hear a peep from them, and other times you are unlucky and have neighbours who live different lifestyles from yourselves. It is pot luck.
I'm not the sort who "let their kids holler and scream in the garden every day", but then, I suspect your tolerance level is pretty low. I doubt they are "screaming" all the time at all. I can hear the neighbours dc from 4 doors down playing in the garden. It is a lovely thing to hear dc playing out. Yes, they fall out sometimes. Yes there are sometimes screams if someone turns a hosepipe on their sibling, but hearing dc playing is a pleasant sound to my ears.
Nor do I think it late if it is all done and dusted by 10.30 / 10.45.
I think YABU.

Moveoverdarlin · 10/06/2023 00:56

The thing is, whilst it sounds awful, kids do holler and scream. That’s what they do. If there is a way to stop young kids screeching in the garden, please let me know. I’m fortunate to live very rurally so it’s not an issue for neighbours, but if you have neighbours with young, lovely children, the summers will be like this.

Personally I wouldn’t go round.

Moveoverdarlin · 10/06/2023 00:57

I meant lively children, not lovely children.

CremeEgg1983 · 10/06/2023 01:04

I'm shocked to read the replies saying the OP is being unreasonable.

She has said it is EVERY night. That is absolutely ridiculous and antisocial. Persistent noise can be dealt with by the local authority. A one off party would not be grounds for action but every single night, yes, because it's persistent and causing a nuisance.

OP contact your local council environmental department regarding noise nuisance and they should advise you of the next steps.

HerbsandSpices · 10/06/2023 01:13

It sounds awful every day OP but I'm not sure there's anything that can be done about it. They are allowed to use their backyard for play within normal evening hours. They are inconsiderate about it though. They should be trying to keep things a bit under control with the noise. Unfortunately they aren't. The only good thing in such a situation is that you have no need to be considerate back.

TimesRwo · 10/06/2023 01:22

That they’ve had a party on a Friday night and finished it by 11pm does suggest they’re not as unreasonable and selfish as you want us to believe.

It sounds like they are simply enjoying their garden. You say where are not reading your post, but apart from having a hot tub and noisy children, you’ve not said anything else that suggests they’re nightmare neighbours.

LifeIsPainHighness · 10/06/2023 01:22

MonkeyDoodles · 09/06/2023 22:55

People clearly aren't reading my OP or are being deliberately obtuse. Either that or they are the sort who let their kids holler and scream in the garden every single day with no thought for the neighbours.

What in your OP haven’t we read exactly?

LifeIsPainHighness · 10/06/2023 01:24

Houseplantmad · 09/06/2023 23:08

Have you got a dart or two you could aim at the hot tub when they’re not there?

Why is there always one Scally on these threads who suggests criminal damage?

LifeIsPainHighness · 10/06/2023 01:26

TheLostNights · 09/06/2023 23:10

OP has clearly said several times that this is an ongoing thing.
Not sure why people are playing dumb...

She didn’t in her OP, but now apparently it’s ‘every day’ as soon people didn’t agree with her.

I doubt they have a screaming hot tub party every day.

10pm to finish a party on a weekend is a perfectly reasonable time. If you live somewhere with neighbours and a garden this is what happens.

LifeIsPainHighness · 10/06/2023 01:31

Moveoverdarlin · 10/06/2023 00:56

The thing is, whilst it sounds awful, kids do holler and scream. That’s what they do. If there is a way to stop young kids screeching in the garden, please let me know. I’m fortunate to live very rurally so it’s not an issue for neighbours, but if you have neighbours with young, lovely children, the summers will be like this.

Personally I wouldn’t go round.

Other people’s kids screaming always seems far louder/unbearable too.

I really do think some people expect all children to be some sort of Famous Five shy and retiring introverts, I mean heaven forbid a child make some noise in their garden

LifeIsPainHighness · 10/06/2023 01:32

CremeEgg1983 · 10/06/2023 01:04

I'm shocked to read the replies saying the OP is being unreasonable.

She has said it is EVERY night. That is absolutely ridiculous and antisocial. Persistent noise can be dealt with by the local authority. A one off party would not be grounds for action but every single night, yes, because it's persistent and causing a nuisance.

OP contact your local council environmental department regarding noise nuisance and they should advise you of the next steps.

She only said it was every night after people disagreed with her.

Funny how she failed to mention it in her OP.

RausageSoul · 10/06/2023 01:35

Has the party even really started until someone starts doing some DIY?

LifeIsPainHighness · 10/06/2023 01:36

RausageSoul · 10/06/2023 01:35

Has the party even really started until someone starts doing some DIY?

Oh every party I go to someone gets out a hammer 😂

RausageSoul · 10/06/2023 02:16

@LifeIsPainHighness I'm imagining some giving David Guetta DJ arms as they make sparks on the table saw!

clpsmum · 10/06/2023 02:16

LifeIsPainHighness · 09/06/2023 22:46

Hmm I don’t think a 5 hour party starting at 5pm and ending at 10.30pm on a Friday is all that bad

This especially in the summer. I wouldn't take you seriously if it were me tbh

CremeEgg1983 · 10/06/2023 02:34

@LifeIsPainHighness She said that it was constant so made reference to it being a regular occurrence.

Titusgroan · 10/06/2023 03:00

Phone your local council and report the constant noise.
This is not a police matter.
They will tell you to keep a diary of days, times, nature and level of disturbance.
If your other neighbours are also suffering they should do the same.
If the noise is constant the council will send someone out to speak to them or write to them.
They may also test the noise levels at different times of the day.
They will only do this if the noise is constant and after you have kept a record.

In the first instance, however, I would speak to them. The council will take more notice of you if you have tried to sort it out first,

I do not know if all councils are the same. My dh had issues in North London some years ago and we have recently had issues in Kent. After some encouragement the councils dealt with it.

user1492757084 · 10/06/2023 03:19

You need to contact tha local council if this continues.
Loud noise every single night is not on.

You could take a baked chocolate cake and a copy of council by laws and point out that you are not able to sleep on work nights and that you would really appreciate if the kids toned their noise down after 8:00 pm on week nights. You have health concerns and can't sleep or work efficiently.

Noise until 10:30 pm or 12:00 midnight on a Friday and Saturday night, if they have a party, is acceptable but otherwise, no.
Ask them to please warn you when they are having a party so you can choose to go out.

Stress that you don't wish to upset them but want a pleasant and sustainable neighbourly relationship, based on respect.
Say that you don't want to be forced to contact the council.

Nanaof1 · 10/06/2023 04:20

LifeIsPainHighness · 10/06/2023 01:26

She didn’t in her OP, but now apparently it’s ‘every day’ as soon people didn’t agree with her.

I doubt they have a screaming hot tub party every day.

10pm to finish a party on a weekend is a perfectly reasonable time. If you live somewhere with neighbours and a garden this is what happens.

I think the fact that she wrote this in her first post; "This is constant. Kids range from 4 years to 10 years and scream and holler to each other constantly for hours on end.", was understood to mean it is a daily occurrence.

DoingSomethingUnholy · 10/06/2023 04:24

If its everyday it isn't a party its just their kids enjoying the garden by the sounds of it. Unfortunately kids aren't mute. The weather is lovely here at the moment so I make my kids play in the garden after school rather than sit watching tv as they might prefer. We have a paddling pool, trampoline and tonight I got the bouncy castle out. We have 3, aged 7 and under, they aren't quiet, but they are playing outside so I don't expect them to be.

Being quiet be 10.30 on Fri is good of them, they could have carried on much later.

LordSalem · 10/06/2023 04:37

I had similar neighbours a couple of years ago. Too worried to go round and knock as a lone parent, after several weeks of very loud music and adult screeching audible inside my house (bedroom even!) with windows closed, completely at the end of my tether, I filled a balloon with water, stood on top of my kids slide and threw it as hard as I could (at 2am completely exhausted). As it hit I dived off the slide sideways and crawled on my stomach back into the house.
The screams were so, so worth it. They never did find out it was me. The music was shut off within seconds. Peace!

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