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To be upset about my sister being given a house by my parents

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mammamia77 · 13/05/2023 20:44

My parents own two houses (one they live in and the other they rent out). The mortgage on the house they rent out is coming to an end and my parents have been deciding if they want to keep their current tenants or sell up. That was until today when my dad mentioned 'gifting' the house to my sister (aged 20) as another option. Obviously I know that the house belongs to my parents and they are free to do whatever they want with it, but I couldn't help feeling upset about this.

I'm 27 and bought my property aged 25 through hard work and years of saving, so I feel that it is unfair that I had to work so hard to buy my house and my sister just gets gifted with one. My sister could sense I was a bit annoyed over the situation and said something along the lines of 'I don't know what your problem is, you already have your own house'

So, AIBU unreasonable for feeling a bit pissed off that my sister may be given a house basically for free when I had to work so hard for mine?

OP posts:
Rafferty10 · 15/05/2023 14:34

Not sure why you are being given a hard time op, just because you were diligently saving a big chunk of your salary!

I too bought a house in early 20's although a long, long time ago, everyone assumed l had been gifted money but l never received a penny..l worked 80 hours a week in a tiny business l started, and spent not a penny except for running a very cheap old car...all my friends had cars on finance, holidays, nights out and new clothes.
In the north of Uk it is still very possible to buy a modest home, if you live at home rent free, and it is IMO very unfair that as your sister has the same opportunity as you to save whilst living rent free, she should be given a house.....
I would be very hurt in your shoes...
As a parent l would split the house proceeds evenly for both of you, or get your sister to take out a mortgage for exactly half the value of the house to pass to you.
That way she gets a home and you get a fair half.

I would talk calmly to your parents and say how you feel or it will sit between you.
Good luck.

mammamia77 · 15/05/2023 14:38

littleripper · 15/05/2023 14:08

I bought a house when I was 25 and earning £20K a year, some of these posts are just bizarre.
In your situation I would be very clear and tell DP that they can do what they please but that decisions have consequences and in this case it would be me resenting DS and them and a change in our relationship.

Exactly! It's really annoying how some PP's are making out that I'm lying about buying a house at 25 while being a teacher. Despite all the strikes going on, a teacher's salary is actually above average and I was living at home not paying a penny! Not sure why that's so hard to understand.

Thanks for the advice.

OP posts:
MakesMeFeelSad · 15/05/2023 14:41

It's not hard to save 5/6 k a year on a teachers salary when living with parents rent free if ypu are sensible. And we don't all live in areas that are ££££ to buy

It's really unfair op, I'd be really upset in thos situation

Feefooo · 15/05/2023 14:42

ManyRiversToCross · 14/05/2023 00:25

In our will we have made additional provision for one of our children, to get an extra 250k to buy a flat, or be gifted any flat they might be living in that we own.

In our defense said child is very vulnerable, unable to work, and it's our fear that they will be made homeless and destitute when we die....would this sort of arrangement make sense to you? I hate to think we will leave behind I'll feeling towards our one child from the others.

I work in this field, you just add a load of unnecessary headache. The state funds the care packages and they will be entitled to benefits because of low assets. All what will happen is your DC will have to pay for the care out of their own funds. It's basically wasting money.

Heidi1976 · 15/05/2023 14:48

It sounds to me like they are trying to give her the opportunity to move out (considering she has been complaining about it - I half expect they want to start their lives on their own now too) and see this as the way to do it.

What is she generally like with money? I found with me and my sibling as I was the eldest I was more resourceful whereas my younger sibling was not and needed more 'help'.

It could be a case that you are a victim of your own competence as your parents probably think you are 'ok'.

I also expect your parents haven't considered the unfairness element to you.

Just speak to them about how you feel.

DrManhattan · 15/05/2023 15:06

Some of the comments on here are nuts. I think this is one of those situations you can only understand if it's happened to you. It's awful. Total favouritism and short sighted thinking by the ops parents. It's unfair that the op is penalised for having her shit together and getting a house. Yes you can buy a house in the North on that salary. OP if you do decide to talk to your parents good luck

Dreamstate · 15/05/2023 15:13

I think you're being hard done by with what your parents are planning to do buying gifting your sister a mortgage free house.

You both lived rent free at your parents house (she still does and doesn't pay any bills) So its not like there is a discrepancy there.

So they helped you out with some furniture and appliances that still isn't the same as gifting a mortgage free home.

I too would be pissed off. End of the day she will never have to worry if she lost her job and how she would pay a mortgage or face the stress of losing a home.

She can potentially if she was savvy, save hard and even retire early because she hasn't had a large chunk of her salary going towards paying the house.

Good luck trying to talk to your parents

ManyRiversToCross · 15/05/2023 15:22

Feefooo · 15/05/2023 14:42

I work in this field, you just add a load of unnecessary headache. The state funds the care packages and they will be entitled to benefits because of low assets. All what will happen is your DC will have to pay for the care out of their own funds. It's basically wasting money.

I appreciate that, but my priority is that he have a safe and secure home for his whole life.

He will have enough to pay for care.

Whatonearth07957 · 15/05/2023 15:38

Sell the rental and split equity 50/50 that will be fair and help your sister as they want to with a deposit. Alternatively joint tenants to you both but with proviso your sister pays nominal rent £1 and it is sold in x say 5, years time and equity split.

Songlyrics · 15/05/2023 15:39

It's terribly unfair. I would explain to your DPs that you may have a house but you are still paying for it and will be paying for it for decades to come. That paying a mortgage each month puts obvious limitations on you financially. That your sister would have no such limitations on her finances were they to gift her the house, and that they might also like to consider what a 20 year old would do with the money saved on accommodation (you imply she has not been saving whilst living at home). Are your parents happy to give up a large asset so that your sister can spent money on luxuries whilst you live frugally in order to pay your mortgage?.

You need to discuss it, but also bear in mind that it isn't yet a done deal and you don't know the full extent of what your parents have in mind.

OwlsRock · 15/05/2023 15:44

Whatonearth07957 · 15/05/2023 15:38

Sell the rental and split equity 50/50 that will be fair and help your sister as they want to with a deposit. Alternatively joint tenants to you both but with proviso your sister pays nominal rent £1 and it is sold in x say 5, years time and equity split.

This has to be the fair option. Only it's more work for the parents I guess....

Anything else. Isn't fair at all

EsmeSusanOgg · 15/05/2023 15:46

mammamia77 · 15/05/2023 14:38

Exactly! It's really annoying how some PP's are making out that I'm lying about buying a house at 25 while being a teacher. Despite all the strikes going on, a teacher's salary is actually above average and I was living at home not paying a penny! Not sure why that's so hard to understand.

Thanks for the advice.

Over a decade ago now. But I bought my first house on a £25k salary at 26. But it was a small first time buyer property in. Cheaper area of the country.

Feefooo · 15/05/2023 15:46

ManyRiversToCross · 15/05/2023 15:22

I appreciate that, but my priority is that he have a safe and secure home for his whole life.

He will have enough to pay for care.

If your sons needs change at all and his accommodation isn't suitable for him or staff. They will just sell it and use the funds to pay for care and the rent on a new property which you never gave the money would already happen..

It really is a waste to give your son extra money when it likely won't be used for what you intend.

Nanananananana99 · 15/05/2023 16:01

mammamia77 · 13/05/2023 22:11

@Maireas I do appreciate that I'm fortunate to have been able to afford a house at 25, but it wasn't that difficult tbh... I lived at home after uni and put around £400-£500 in my savings accounts each month for four years. I also had an ISA account and was given 25% of the amount I had in there. I then bought a home that wasn't very expensive in a cheap area. I'd say that if you live at home for a bit, buying a house mid twenties is very doable.

Of course it’s easy to buy a house if you live at home with your parents enabling you to save loads of money. 🤦🏼‍♀️

mammamia77 · 15/05/2023 16:03

@Nanananananana99

Yes. I've literally said that in the post you've quoted and several of my other posts, so what exactly is the point of your comment?

OP posts:
mammamia77 · 15/05/2023 16:07

The purpose of this post was to gain insight into whether I was being unreasonable for being pissed off with my parents. That's it. It was not an open invitation for posters to delve into my finances demanding to know how much I saved each month and how I possibly managed to buy a house at 25 on my salary, nor was the purpose of my post to receive bitchy comments about how my parents allowed me to live at home rent free. Bloody hate Mumsnet sometimes!

OP posts:
Alleycat1 · 15/05/2023 16:25

@mammamia77 @Nanananananana99 So, the fairest thing would be for the parents to calculate how much rent and share of bills the OP has saved in the 4 years and give that amount to OP's sister, not an entire house free of cost. Why should OP have a mortgage around her neck for decades while sister is handed it to her on a plate especially as the sister is also now living at home rent free? In what universe is it fair?

Fourpeasinapodcast · 15/05/2023 16:27

I would be VERY pissed off OP. Grossly unfair.

MammaTo · 15/05/2023 16:37

I can’t believe some people are defending your parents.

If this is the full story then it’s awful treatment.

Letting your daughter live at home rent free so she can save for her own house DOES NOT EQUATE to a whole house, it just doesn’t. Mum an dad should of sold the house and split the money equally, or if your sister wanted to live there she should of took out a mortgage and gave the OP her share of the house.

OP has a lifetime of financial stress ahead of her as most of us do, paying a mortgage etc whereas her sister who hasn’t saved a penny gets to live mortgage free for life. I’d be looking to mum an dad for an explanation.

TonTonMacoute · 15/05/2023 16:49

It is not fair and I don't blame you for being pissed off.

If I was your parents I would either give it to both, or sell the house and split the proceeds. I wouldn't be able to treat my offspring so unequally.

ManyRiversToCross · 15/05/2023 16:49

Feefooo · 15/05/2023 15:46

If your sons needs change at all and his accommodation isn't suitable for him or staff. They will just sell it and use the funds to pay for care and the rent on a new property which you never gave the money would already happen..

It really is a waste to give your son extra money when it likely won't be used for what you intend.

Without going into too much detail, it's not a physical or learning need. He won't need full time care (unless there an accident or some such, same as anyone) but will need PA support to manage his affairs. I don't see how they could sell his house unless he needs to move to supported living full time, which I don't envisage will be the case?

Apols to OP for derailing.

Quitelikeit · 15/05/2023 16:53

Op

this is not fair at all!

if the house is worth 200k I’d ask if they would sell it to her for 100k and give that to you making it fairer

otherwise this would grate on me

Butchyrestingface · 15/05/2023 16:56

mammamia77 · 15/05/2023 16:07

The purpose of this post was to gain insight into whether I was being unreasonable for being pissed off with my parents. That's it. It was not an open invitation for posters to delve into my finances demanding to know how much I saved each month and how I possibly managed to buy a house at 25 on my salary, nor was the purpose of my post to receive bitchy comments about how my parents allowed me to live at home rent free. Bloody hate Mumsnet sometimes!

Is it possible that your parents view you as an exceptional person who has little need of their help whereas your sister does? Perhaps they reason that letting you stay at home for 4-5 years to save enough for a property was help PROPORTIONATE to your needs?

I say that in earnest - anyone who can afford a house at the age of 25 4 years post QT in this financial climate, I think, must have their their head screwed on bloody well.

Feefooo · 15/05/2023 16:56

ManyRiversToCross · 15/05/2023 16:49

Without going into too much detail, it's not a physical or learning need. He won't need full time care (unless there an accident or some such, same as anyone) but will need PA support to manage his affairs. I don't see how they could sell his house unless he needs to move to supported living full time, which I don't envisage will be the case?

Apols to OP for derailing.

I'm saying you can't predict what happens but is it really worth the extra family strife of giving the extra money when it's likely the state will pay and your money will go down the drain? Unless he's not been assessed as unfit for work and doesn't get pip?

ManyRiversToCross · 15/05/2023 17:05

He does get pip and LCWRA

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