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To Want To Slap The Loudmouth That Spoilt Our Special Day Out?

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Ifrozethehoumous · 11/04/2023 18:12

DH and I planned a very special and expensive train trip to mark of silver wedding anniversary. We had been looking forward to it for ages and felt really excited when we started our journey. Everything was lovely and as expected, the food was superb and the staff on the train were attentive and professional. Unfortunately, for much of the day there was a small group of people with one particular woman who was raucous and loud with a laugh that would have rivalled Sybil Fawlty. She had obviously had too much to drink and didn’t give a damn about anyone else around her. While we had a really lovely day, it was hard to ignore this woman’s appalling behaviour. I’m amazed nothing was said to her. I would have complained to her myself but unfortunately during the journey I discovered she is from the same village as us and I didn’t want any future repercussions. AIBU to have wanted to slap her? How can anyone behave so badly?

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JudgeJ · 11/04/2023 20:54

MelloYellow · 11/04/2023 18:50

this !

The OP was having a good time since this slob spoiled it. Love how MN likes to defend people like her!

SerafinasGoose · 11/04/2023 20:58

The one with the laugh like Salacious Crumb always seems to be within earshot of me. So I do know it's an irritant that some people are incapable of not emitting silly volumes of noise.

Normal journeys I just use noise-cancelling earphone. Special occasions on novelty railways, if this was one of those, are a bit different. But it's a very British response to sit there fuming, saying but complaining in an undertone or on the internet. What earthly use is that?

If something's intrusive to this kind of level then tackle it respectfully at the time. Pointless sweating it later to the point that you feel you want to slap someone. If something's ruined a special occasion to this extent, then unfortunately this was a choice.

Talking of the slap, this nation tends to go from the sublime to the ridiculous in our interactions with people. Either we tut passive-aggressively, or go to other extremes of overt aggression when someone even mildly questions our behaviour.

If we tolerated less but all learned some basic skills of civil but assertive communication, we'd all be better off IMO. The continent don't seem to have a problem with it; I'm not altogether sure why we do.

ChilliHeelerFanClub · 11/04/2023 20:59

Why would she need to know it was you that complained? You surely just say to the staff that you’d like them to have a word but please don’t mention who was annoyed.

girlfriend44 · 11/04/2023 21:02

MargotBamborough · 11/04/2023 20:50

No, actually, some people would love to relax and chill out but can't because they have the misfortune to be seated in the vicinity of yobs like you and your partner.

Let's be very clear about this. Asking someone to tone down their behaviour is awkward and embarrassing. No one wants to do it, and no one does do it unless the person in question really is being unbearable. If someone actually asked your partner to be quiet it means there is a 99% chance that everyone else around was probably fantasising about knocking him out with a blunt object or impaling him on something sharp.

And when he was asked to be more considerate of those around him, instead of apologising and turning down the volume, he got nasty and aggressive, just to highlight what a rude and unpleasant person he is. And his reaction is why people generally don't ask people like him to tone it down, but stew in silence. Because they know the most likely response is that the person will be aggressive and won't actually shut up so it will just make things worse.

Who dragged you people up?

Yobs lol. Just talking. Get a life.
People aren't going to stop talking/existing because others are miserable. If you can't stand talking stay at home.

girlfriend44 · 11/04/2023 21:04

MargotBamborough · 11/04/2023 20:50

No, actually, some people would love to relax and chill out but can't because they have the misfortune to be seated in the vicinity of yobs like you and your partner.

Let's be very clear about this. Asking someone to tone down their behaviour is awkward and embarrassing. No one wants to do it, and no one does do it unless the person in question really is being unbearable. If someone actually asked your partner to be quiet it means there is a 99% chance that everyone else around was probably fantasising about knocking him out with a blunt object or impaling him on something sharp.

And when he was asked to be more considerate of those around him, instead of apologising and turning down the volume, he got nasty and aggressive, just to highlight what a rude and unpleasant person he is. And his reaction is why people generally don't ask people like him to tone it down, but stew in silence. Because they know the most likely response is that the person will be aggressive and won't actually shut up so it will just make things worse.

Who dragged you people up?

😂😂

MargotBamborough · 11/04/2023 21:08

girlfriend44 · 11/04/2023 21:02

Yobs lol. Just talking. Get a life.
People aren't going to stop talking/existing because others are miserable. If you can't stand talking stay at home.

So why did the guy ask your partner to be quiet, and not any of the other people around who were also talking/existing?

If someone asks you to be quiet in a public place, it's virtually certain that you are being an annoying twat and everyone hates you.

SoShallINever · 11/04/2023 21:12

How annoying. Some people just don't know how to behave. We sat near a table of loud oiks on a visit to a lovely destination restaurant recently. The manager kindly moved us away from them but you could tell he didn't want to upset them as they were downing bottle after bottle of champagne.

Olive19741205 · 11/04/2023 21:12

girlfriend44

You actually do sound awful. You just keep repeating that other people, who may want a bit of consideration, are 'miserable'. I know your type...loud and annoying but you probably think you're a great laugh. I bet you tell people "I'm crazy hahaha, I'm mad me" 🙄

MargotBamborough · 11/04/2023 21:13

girlfriend44 · 11/04/2023 21:02

Yobs lol. Just talking. Get a life.
People aren't going to stop talking/existing because others are miserable. If you can't stand talking stay at home.

So why did the guy ask your partner to shut up, rather than any of the other people who were just quietly talking/existing?

Nope, sorry, if someone asks you to tone down your behaviour in a public place it's because you are being an annoying twat and everyone hates you.

MargotBamborough · 11/04/2023 21:16

Olive19741205 · 11/04/2023 21:12

girlfriend44

You actually do sound awful. You just keep repeating that other people, who may want a bit of consideration, are 'miserable'. I know your type...loud and annoying but you probably think you're a great laugh. I bet you tell people "I'm crazy hahaha, I'm mad me" 🙄

To be fair, I imagine most people who end up sitting near her and her partner ARE miserable. But they have a good reason to be.

girlfriend44 · 11/04/2023 21:17

Not at all, only one boring old fart.
Perhaps he should try talking himself.

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AppleDumplingWithCustard · 11/04/2023 21:21

Jagoda · 11/04/2023 20:03

Even if it was a Pullman train, it’s still public transport, and so you take your chances.

I don’t think it’s fair to compare a man who called a child a cunt with this woman whose only crime appears to be that OP didn’t like her laugh and thought her voice was too loud.

Hardly regular public transport in the known sense of the word. It’s a luxury day out that costs between £300 - £400 per person. I do it every year and it’s a really lovely experience. It would spoil it for me if someone was shrieking and generally behaving in a loud manner. You don’t have to behave as though you’re in a church but you don’t have to impact on everyone else’s enjoyment.

mdinbc · 11/04/2023 21:24

Oh, I understand, OP! Some people have no idea how loud and obnoxious they are.

I have a similar story for our trip last summer, and it happened not once, but twice. The first time, it was our anniversary and we were staying a a swish spa resort. The dining room was large and mostly full. There were a party of four people having dinner about 30 feet away, and the one woman was so loud; we all heard about her kitchen renovation, the problem with the plumber, their sailing trip the month previous, etc. Laughing and guffawing and over-gesturing the whole time. We could see others in the restaurant turning and giving 'looks', but to no avail. The woman's husband was getting drunker by the minute and eventually fell asleep in his chair while the other couple murmured their agreements and hardly got a word in edgewise. It was awful, and there was a collective sigh of relief when they finally departed.

The next time, different town on the same trip, in a intimate Italian restaurant restaurant, the tables were tightly packed in a small room; there were 4 sets of tables for 2. The woman directly behind me was drunk, weepy and argumentative. Close to divorce by the sounds of things, and once again an almost silent husband. The other 3 tables quietly conversing while she pulled apart every detail of their last 2 arguments. My DH was going to tell her to put a sock in it, so to speak, but I kicked him under the table and asked him to call over the manager. The other couples left quickly; no one stayed for dessert, and the loud lady was leaving by the time the manager came over. Another ruined dinner for us.

For so many of us that do not like confrontation, we end up putting up with boorish behavior of others. Hopefully your next dinner out will be peaceful!

Mirabai · 11/04/2023 21:27

Was it not possible to change seats or carriage?

anythinginapinch · 11/04/2023 21:27

I'm sorry for you OP. I absolutely loathe "fun" of that type - it is just pissed, loud crap behaviour from selfish people who have no ideas about sharing a public space.

LoudMouthLol · 11/04/2023 21:28

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MelloYellow · 11/04/2023 21:29

JudgeJ · 11/04/2023 20:54

The OP was having a good time since this slob spoiled it. Love how MN likes to defend people like her!

Slob?
were you there? X

Snowythecatbitch · 11/04/2023 21:30

Yeah should have defo slapped her 😆"drama" would have made my day

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 11/04/2023 21:34

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What a vivid imagination you have. 🙄

LoudMouthLol · 11/04/2023 21:35

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JocelynBurnell · 11/04/2023 21:35

one particular woman who was raucous and loud with a laugh that would have rivalled Sybil Fawlty. She had obviously had too much to drink and didn’t give a damn about anyone

AIBU to have wanted to slap her?

It's safe to say that there is one woman from your village that I certainly would not like to encounter on my travels.

Hint: it's not Sybil.

HappyValet · 11/04/2023 21:35

YANBU at all OP.

She sounds like a monumental twat and I suspect half of those defending her 'just having fun' are also annoying, loud, and badly behaved in public.

flosset · 11/04/2023 21:36

I completely understand where you are coming from OP and think you are getting a hard time here

A few years ago I used to live next door to a woman who talked and laughed so loud I ended up moving. She had a Janice from friends kind of laugh x100000 and must have watched comedies all day long as she never stopped for air. I could hear here in every room in my house and on a few occasions she even activated the mic on my laptop on work calls all through the wall. At this point I had to approach her and she was apologetic but told me she was a very loud person and would try and keep it down but couldn't promise anything. When she was out in the garden you could literally hear her streets away.

She didn't give a shit she was just obnoxiously loud and expected others to put up with it. She also slammed doors, stomped up and down the stairs that the house actually shook and listened to the TV at a ridiculous volume. When her husband or son were home without her you could have heard a pin drop. When she was there it was 24/7 noise. I moved in the end as it really started to affect me. When I told people how much it was bothering me they all laughed and thought I was being OTT. They all got a shock when they came to the house and heard it for themselves.

Since this if I'm out in a restaurant or somewhere I get irrationally angry if there is a loud laugher/talker nearby so I'm my opinion YANBU

flutterbyebaby · 11/04/2023 21:36

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Are you actually suggesting that someone deaf should try to pretend to be able to hear and act accordingly? You are disgusting

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