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'Queen' Camilla

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Replitad · 04/04/2023 23:12

I wouldn't have called myself a republican before now but I think the 'Queen' Camilla thing has tipped me over the edge.

Pretty audacious considering their history and I think a lot of the public won't agree. I certainly won't be celebrating or even watching coronation.

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Cloud9isnowclosed · 11/04/2023 08:51

Camilla always had the title PoW but didn't use it. Norfolk Live's journalism has an interesting mix of supposition.. but am not seeing the "promise" you mention @Novella4

DappledThings · 11/04/2023 08:52

Novella4 · 11/04/2023 08:50

@DappledThings
Oh it was only Charles' intention that Camilla be princess ! Well that explains it .

Just as when Andrw had every 'intention'of helping the FBI

And when Charles said he'd have a slimmed down coronation ! £100 000 000 + later here we are...
Got it
When talking about the royals
Intention =lie

See, frothing! Not frothing here. Just amused ambivalence.

Novella4 · 11/04/2023 08:53

This bbc link refers to his previous intention
It was 2010 .

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11800849.amp

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 11/04/2023 08:54

Camilla basically did the reverse of what William and Catherine do atm.

She had the POW title but used the Cornwall one.

They are Duke and Duchess of Cornwall, but use the POW one (as it’s more senior).

Purely for public opinion at that the time.

Novella4 · 11/04/2023 08:54

@Cloud9isnowclosed

Clarence House said that "nothing had changed" since the couple's wedding, and that the Duchess would become Princess Consort as was stated then.

BBC link below

DappledThings · 11/04/2023 08:59

Novella4 · 11/04/2023 08:53

This bbc link refers to his previous intention
It was 2010 .

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11800849.amp

And? Maybe he did always intend for her to be Queen and the Princess thing was chucked in to stave off having to announce that. Maybe he genuinely did accept she wouldn't be Queen and did intend for the Princess title to stick. Maybe he changed his mind 2 minutes or 10 years after that announcement.

Why does anyone care? It makes no difference to her position at his side, it makes no difference to the long-dead Diana.

Novella4 · 11/04/2023 09:02

It matters

Novella4 · 11/04/2023 09:04

And I'm glad Camilla will be on the throne and have blood diamonds plonked on her head and her head anointed with holy oil and the whole shebang !

Because my instinct months ago was that that the image of Camilla crowned ( and Charles to some extent) will prompt much more negative feeling than postive

And it's already starting

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 11/04/2023 09:05

Novella4 · 11/04/2023 09:02

It matters

Why?

Genuine question.

What difference does using a different title (and she was always going to be Queen legally, regardless of what title she used) make to anyone?

and why is it problematic that nearly 20 years later plans change? That’s just life.

Novella4 · 11/04/2023 09:08

Isn't it obvious ?

It is a clear example of how the public are manipulated .
I agree it was Camilla's and probably Charles' plan all along that she be queen .
But just say whatever to keep the masses quiet - theylll forget

He to be fair , Charles had Andrew front and central at the Easter Sunday pap walk so no wonder the 'royals' believe they can do what they want

DappledThings · 11/04/2023 09:09

Novella4 · 11/04/2023 09:04

And I'm glad Camilla will be on the throne and have blood diamonds plonked on her head and her head anointed with holy oil and the whole shebang !

Because my instinct months ago was that that the image of Camilla crowned ( and Charles to some extent) will prompt much more negative feeling than postive

And it's already starting

So you think being crowned will make more people hate her like you do? And that makes you feel good? What an odd way to live.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 11/04/2023 09:09

It is a clear example of how the public are manipulated

Or it’s a clear example of the fact that nearly twenty years have passed and public opinion has changed and moved on…

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 11/04/2023 09:11

Novella4 · 11/04/2023 08:26

@TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl

When they married, Charles promised Camilla would be princess consort . Not ever queen - despite the frothing from the bootlickers on here - he said she would not be queen
It is this change from princess to queen that has people angry . No one cares re queen / queen consort

www.norfolklive.co.uk/news/norfolk-news/camilla-queen-title-charles-king-6210183?intsource=ampcontinuereading&intmedium=amp&intcampaign=continuereading_button#amp-readmore-target

"couple announced rather swiftly that when Charles would assume the throne of King of Great Britain, Camilla would assume the title, not of Queen, but of HRH The Princess Consort.
It is believed that this decision was made out of respect for Princess Diana and public feeling. If you’ve not noticed before, Camilla does not have the title of Princess of Wales, as Diana had been called, but is instead Duchess of Cornwall."

All this is pure distraction from the fact that idiots still clap an ordinary man travelling in a golden coach to have a hat stuffed with looted jewels placed on his head to prove that god says he's king and head of the church. Idiots also ensure that they look the other way re Andrew / Epstein/ Saville / Ball / Mountbatten
Shameful

They never promised anything at all. They never said ‘she will never be Queen’. 17 years ago they planned for her to be Princess Consort. But times have changed and the RF must change with those times. This ‘they promised’ like whining children is pathetic and embarrassing.

BMW6 · 11/04/2023 09:13

I'll listen carefully for the howls of outrage at the moment Queen Camilla is crowned 😆

DappledThings · 11/04/2023 09:18

BMW6 · 11/04/2023 09:13

I'll listen carefully for the howls of outrage at the moment Queen Camilla is crowned 😆

I think some people are hoping for a sign from the heavens. Maybe the spire of the Abbey will fall. Or an unpredicted eclipse or plague of locusts. Now that would be exciting!

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 11/04/2023 09:23

It is a clear example of how the public are manipulated .
I agree it was Camilla's and probably Charles' plan all along that she be queen .
But just say whatever to keep the masses quiet - theylll forget

Must be wonderful to have nothing else going on to fume about. YOu don't have a very high opinion of the intelligence of the 'masses', do you? what a relief you're here to put us right and open our eyes.

think some people are hoping for a sign from the heavens. Maybe the spire of the Abbey will fall. Or an unpredicted eclipse or plague of locusts. Now that would be exciting!

Like William I's coronation, when his soldiers outside thought there was a fight starting in the Abbey and set fire to the place.

Spongebetty · 11/04/2023 09:23

I'm a monarchist but not a royalist. Personally I can't stand either of them.

Chucky is a buffoon who likes talking to his plants and Cammy's a lazy entitled frump.
Cammy apparently has form for 'stealing' other people's men. She got involved with Andrew PB when he was dating Princess Anne in the 80's. Then she took up with Chucky when he was married to Di.

Still, we can't change it and will have to learn to live with them - a bit like having warts.

SimplyAverage · 11/04/2023 09:28

Novella4 · 11/04/2023 09:08

Isn't it obvious ?

It is a clear example of how the public are manipulated .
I agree it was Camilla's and probably Charles' plan all along that she be queen .
But just say whatever to keep the masses quiet - theylll forget

He to be fair , Charles had Andrew front and central at the Easter Sunday pap walk so no wonder the 'royals' believe they can do what they want

Grim, Andrew did worse than Harry, Harry and Fergie ard treated as the scapegoats. I don't like Harry or what he did. Sophie sold out too yet all is forgotten.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 11/04/2023 09:45

Sophie sold out too yet all is forgotten.

Sophie didn’t sell out.

Sophie’s business partner sold out.

Sophie got caught out by the Feik Sheik guy and was indiscreet thinking she was chatting to another royal. Big difference

Inkanta · 11/04/2023 09:49

BMW6 · 11/04/2023 09:13

I'll listen carefully for the howls of outrage at the moment Queen Camilla is crowned 😆

Yes I think the reality of immorality might kick in at that point. A sense that something not quite right about it or just a disatisfying distasteful niggle.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 11/04/2023 10:02

Novella4 · 11/04/2023 08:53

This bbc link refers to his previous intention
It was 2010 .

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11800849.amp

Still can’t see a promise she’d never be Queen

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 11/04/2023 10:03

Novella4 · 11/04/2023 08:54

@Cloud9isnowclosed

Clarence House said that "nothing had changed" since the couple's wedding, and that the Duchess would become Princess Consort as was stated then.

BBC link below

Wow, 13 years ago.

Imagine the audacity of changing plans 13 years later.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 11/04/2023 10:04

Novella4 · 11/04/2023 09:02

It matters

Why?

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 11/04/2023 10:05

Novella4 · 11/04/2023 09:04

And I'm glad Camilla will be on the throne and have blood diamonds plonked on her head and her head anointed with holy oil and the whole shebang !

Because my instinct months ago was that that the image of Camilla crowned ( and Charles to some extent) will prompt much more negative feeling than postive

And it's already starting

Yes there may be total weirdos who think Camilla should spend her life wearing a ‘sorry Diana’ t-shirt but in the real world normal people have moved on regarding a stranger’s marriage almost 3 decades later.

TheObstinateHeadstrongGirl · 11/04/2023 10:06

Novella4 · 11/04/2023 09:08

Isn't it obvious ?

It is a clear example of how the public are manipulated .
I agree it was Camilla's and probably Charles' plan all along that she be queen .
But just say whatever to keep the masses quiet - theylll forget

He to be fair , Charles had Andrew front and central at the Easter Sunday pap walk so no wonder the 'royals' believe they can do what they want

They were a Christian family going to church on Easter Sunday. Should he have been under a cloak of invisibility?

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