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People who identify as Trans Abled …

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TequilaSunrose · 19/03/2023 19:54

We have all head about transgender, but recently I’ve heard more and more about transableism. These are healthy people who think they were born in the wrong body and that they should have been born into a disabled persons body.

Surely this is the line. People cannot identify as disabled. People cannot pretend to be disabled. This is the point we must say that this is now mental illness. You cannot just go around identifying as whatever you want.

AIBU to say this is ridiculous and must be stamped out and the fact it even has a name is insanity.

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Mrsjayy · 20/03/2023 08:50

TequilaSunrose · 19/03/2023 19:54

We have all head about transgender, but recently I’ve heard more and more about transableism. These are healthy people who think they were born in the wrong body and that they should have been born into a disabled persons body.

Surely this is the line. People cannot identify as disabled. People cannot pretend to be disabled. This is the point we must say that this is now mental illness. You cannot just go around identifying as whatever you want.

AIBU to say this is ridiculous and must be stamped out and the fact it even has a name is insanity.

I'm a "proper " disabled person and this isn't new its been bubbling away for years. Some of it is a fetish < shudder> other I think is a mental illness .I read something years ago that people try and amputate limbs ! It's very bizarre.

Mitsahne · 20/03/2023 08:58

Well it's all batshit. Transsexualism, transracism, transableism. It's denial of reality which is you are born as you are born and you can't change it. Why is a healthy person saying they identify as a sick person more batshit than a man saying he feels like a woman? It's all fucking bollocks.

KimberleyClark · 20/03/2023 09:01

It may have a neurological basis in some cases. Like phantom pain in an amputated limb, the brain thinks the limb is still there. So perhaps someone could feel that their limb shouldn’t be there because their brain doesn’t recognise it. Not sure amputation is the answer in this case though.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 20/03/2023 09:39

Headoutofplace · 19/03/2023 21:22

The line should clearly be that no-one should be able to identify as something biological/physical that they biologically/physically aren't. Once you say one type of self-ID is ok then all have to be ok, else that's grossly unfair. It seems breathtakingly arrogant that a man can declare he's a woman and no-one should be arguing but can also decide that a 40-year old isn't allowed to self ID as a 5-year old. (I don't agree with self ID in either case to be clear!)

Exactly. This is why the Gender Recognition Act was so harmful - the Law started pretending to believe a lie, and forcing the rest of us to pretend to believe it. That is a much bigger issue than the small number of people (so far) who have obtained Gender Recognition Certificates.

Once you allow the Law to enforce compliance with something that everyone knows is a lie, you have fundamentally undermined the integrity of the Law.

This is different from other legal fictions e.g. adoption - the law recognises the adoptive parents as having the rights that biological parents would normally have, but it doesn't force anyone to pretend that the child isn't adopted or forbid mention of the adoption process. By contrast, it is now a criminal offence under the Data Protection Act 2018 for an organisation to disclose someone's gender identity, even inadvertently. They have made it a crime to tell the truth.

Naunet · 20/03/2023 09:41

I fucking hate these offensive, naval gazing larpers

Always4Brenner · 20/03/2023 09:54

SilverGlitterBaubles · 19/03/2023 20:39

Teen DCs say that this is a thing in school fuelled by the internet and SM where some kids are trying to out do each other with more and more bizarre labels or something to identify as. One girl has identified as a dolphin for a while now and another has identified as a fox and has an actual tail. The teachers are just supposed to go along with this nonsense. The pendulum has swung way too far.

I give up I really do, I pity the five year olds now what’s it going to be like when they reach year 7 in school.

stbrandonsboat · 20/03/2023 10:57

People are infantilised now. Toddlers and young children like to pretend their fluffy animals or whatever, now we have adults doing it too. These people are not functioning adults and will not be able to hold down jobs or undertake other adult responsibilities.

There's a massive difference between psychosis and being a self indulgent navel gazer. Not all of these people are clinically delusional, they're just refusing to grow up and prefer to live out their fantasies instead.

TheKeatingFive · 20/03/2023 11:16

I read about this many years ago, it's been around in the margins forever. For what it's worth, I'm sure people genuinely feel like this. That doesn't mean we should accommodate it in any way - to do so would be very offensive to genuinely disabled people.

Anyone who feels like this should get therapy.

All these conditions where people want to 'identify' into something they're not should be treated the same way, transgender, trans race, trans age. There's no justification for accommodating some and not others.

TobeLeRone · 20/03/2023 18:28

Justalittlebitduckling · 19/03/2023 21:56

I remember this was on an episode of casualty or something like that years ago. I think they did amputate the limb in the end.

This has probably been said before, but iirc the limb was amputated because the man went and stuck it under a train, mangling it beyond repair.

Willyoujustbequiet · 23/03/2023 11:10

I know quite a few people plaster all over social media that they are autistic or have ADHD when they clearly don't and have been told on assessment they don't meet the diagnostic criteria (know them well and have experience in this area)

Its attention seeking behaviour. They want to be a victim in some form. Ime its younger generations. I find it utterly bizarre.

Advicerequest · 26/03/2023 08:45

I don't think we know whether people in developing countries have half the whims we have as they would be expressed in different ways - or, if completely socially unacceptable, hidden.

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