Schoolgirl kicked in head by boy in unisex toilets- is the idea of unisex unworkable?

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A boy in a school toilets in Coventry has kicked in a door in in an attempt to photograph a 13 yr old girl and she has received head injuries.
When unisex toilets were introduced we were told they would be closely monitored but that is clearly ineffective and they are unsafe for girls.
Do you think they should be abolished?

Yabu Allow them
Yanbu Abolish them.

www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-schoolgirl-taken-hospital-after-26418069

This is a question I keep asking. Why has something as clear cut as male/female been allowed to become sin confused in an entire generation? Why is this confusion actively promoted and protected across politics, media and education getting such a massively disproportionate amount of airtime?

in all honesty I think some very sinister background to all this will be revealed at some point.

Lots has been revealed already. Do some research (that isn't meant snarkily or PA btw! I'm literally recommending you do some research - there are so many red flags and alarm bells and dubious agendas and funders that have fuelled all this and you kind of have to see it yourself to believe it).

Oh I think we all know what group is behind the persistent assault on girls’ safety in schools while encouraging boys who like pink to pursue sexual relationships with adult men.

Begins with a P.

I think there should be separate toilets for just women or men if they are comfortable with using the other ones. I've seen toilets for nursing mothers, so it would be the same concept.

It is ridiculous. As an adult I wouldn't use a unisex toilet. Why should our children? It is totally unacceptable.

The societal norms are totally different in those countries. Mixed sex naked saunas are also the norm. Children will have been brought up from very young to see people of all ages mixing in a range of more intimate settings. We have a completely different culture and expectations and it’s simply not possible to supplant those norms in the uk. Nor would the majority in this country want to. I do remember a poster, who said she was from a Nordic country, now living in the uk. Much as mixed sex worked over there, she didn’t want it here as mixed sex here doesn’t work.

Apparently it’s an M these days- mustn’t upset the poor victims of society’s prejudices

Because male girls matter more than female girls.

And it’s important that we all accept that.

I think you’ll find that in a lot of schools with mixed sex student toilets, there are still single sex toilets for the teachers.

Hence proving that this is all based on sex based, binary thinking and no one, particularly those making the most fuss about this, have the slightest doubt of who is female and who is male and there is no transition mentally from one to the other.

The females are the ones that no one cares about or provides equality of consideration for, on the grounds that they don't really need it, aren't worth it, are only moaning and need to shut up and put others first.

The males are the ones whose feelings, privacy, dignity, self expression and self actualisation matters for.

And then there's two more groups: one of females who have identified into a little bit more consideration and care on the grounds that at least they had the sense to abandon the service droid class: and one of very special males who have male privilege and then a layer of VIP status on top.

When I was in secondary school it was known by all the girls not to use the end toilet because the boys had made a hole in the ceiling, and if they stood on the toilet in the end cubicle of their loos they could see in.

It is, frankly, not that unusual for teenage boys to be arseholes and to behave inappropriately towards girls. There's no point pretending that's not the case, and I could give multiple examples from my time in school of girls being groped, so why make things worse with unisex toilets?

Didn't anyone inform the teachers/school Janitor of the hole, so it would be taken care of?

It was there for a long time. Not sure if it got fixed and then the repair was just broken or what. But only two sinks out of about ten were working and the sani-bins weren't emptied often enough. The toilets seemed a bit neglected tbh. But were on the main corridor and I never saw bullying in there either (and I was bullied so would have been a prime target, but nothing happened - or nothing memorable anyway. Maybe name calling, but that was constant wherever I was.)

This was supposed to be the 'good' school in the area as well.

Seen lots of people saying that boys would just go into the girls toilets anyway - never, ever saw that happen. Occasionally happened in primary school, but then it would be three or four boys pushing another one in to embarrass him. Never saw a boy willingly enter the girls toilets. It was like a hard line that couldn't be crossed.

Was the reason she was kicked in the head because the other girl wanted photos of her with her knickers down? If not, it's the same is it!

By putting in mixed sex schools they've just given boys one more place to sexually harass girls. Girl's toilets used to be a place to get away from the boys!

This!

So because sexual assaults happen anyway in schools why don't we make it easier on boys who want to be a predators and give them access to girls with their knickers down, is essentially what your saying.

Did the girls also take photos of you with your knickers down?

My daughter was hospitalised by girls in a toilet in school.
my transchild has been assaulted more than once in a toilet at school, he now uses the staff toilet. It’s not unisex toilets that’s the problem, it’s disgustingly raised kids who things that’s a way to behave.

Yes. That has happened.

When I was at school a boy being in the girls' toilets would have got into trouble, a boy causing trouble in the girls' toilets (of the intimidating comments variety) would have been suspended and put on 1:1 supervision upon return, if not expelled. I feel so sorry for the girls forced to use unisex facilities.

My daughter was hospitalised by girls in a toilet in school.
my transchild has been assaulted more than once in a toilet at school, he now uses the staff toilet. It’s not unisex toilets that’s the problem, it’s disgustingly raised kids who things that’s a way to behave.

But they clearly aren't helping, are they? So let's abolish them.

My daughter was hospitalised by girls in a toilet in school.
my transchild has been assaulted more than once in a toilet at school, he now uses the staff toilet. It’s not unisex toilets that’s the problem, it’s disgustingly raised kids who things that’s a way to behave.

I’m sorry for your child but it’s a fact that girls are put at more risk from sexual harassment when they use shared facilities and by taking that away there will s bound to be an uptick in these kind of incidents.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/sexual-assault-unisex-changing-rooms-sunday-times-women-risk-a8519086.html?amp

There are different forms of violence and multiple, co-occurring solutions are needed to reduce incidents of violence.

The fact that girls attack girls is not a reason to increase boys access to sexually intimidate, voyeur, harass and violently assault girls. You can surely see that?

Literally no one is arguing that all we need is single sex toilets, as your response seems to imply we are saying.

@FuckNuggets the unisex toilets I've seen in schools and universities have all had cubicles with floor to ceiling doors so far more secure against unwanted intrusion than the traditional cubicle model which you can see over and under. They've also been far more overseen from the corridor than traditional toilets, with the cubicles arranged in a semi circle and sinks in the middle. Less privacy when washing your hands but far less chance of unseen bullying, smoking or vandalism (to name the 3 favourite toilet-related pastimes of my youth - and I went to an all girls school).