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To ask what stops you voting for Labour?

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Winniethepoohandtiggertoo · 06/03/2023 09:21

No agenda I’m just interested as Kier is on LBC this morning…

For me it’s the TWAW magical thinking, and not being convinced they would prioritise average earners, which I want to happen.

OP posts:
MarshaBradyo · 09/03/2023 19:51

Seems desperate to me tbh. Don’t you have your own not voting Tory version?

Sorryyoufeelthatway · 09/03/2023 19:52

I am a woman. Adult female human.

ScrollingLeaves · 09/03/2023 20:00

Sorryyoufeelthatway · Today 19:52
I am a woman. Adult female human.

Watch out as people have forgotten that ‘female’ means one of two [biological] sexes in the Equality Act rather than sex by legally falsified birth certificate, or assumed gender reassignment.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=UsvQQFx-dRI

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4758082-petition-to-update-the-equality-act-thread-3

limitedperiodonly · 09/03/2023 20:11

And yet you all hang out on threads aimed at people not voting Labour
We can’t seem to get away from you.

@MarshaBradyo Do I? That's news to me but I don't monitor my own posts as closely as you seem to. Perhaps you can dig them up for me.

Meanwhile I will vote Labour at the next election as I have done in every election but one since my first one in 1983. That annihilation under Michael Foot wasn't quite as bad as the one under Jeremy Corbyn in 2019 when I decided to withdraw my support. I credit myself only a tiny part in his downfall.

I hope that sits well with you but frankly I don't give a shit. I want my party back and don't want to spend eternity in glorious opposition.

MarshaBradyo · 09/03/2023 20:17

limitedperiodonly · 09/03/2023 20:11

And yet you all hang out on threads aimed at people not voting Labour
We can’t seem to get away from you.

@MarshaBradyo Do I? That's news to me but I don't monitor my own posts as closely as you seem to. Perhaps you can dig them up for me.

Meanwhile I will vote Labour at the next election as I have done in every election but one since my first one in 1983. That annihilation under Michael Foot wasn't quite as bad as the one under Jeremy Corbyn in 2019 when I decided to withdraw my support. I credit myself only a tiny part in his downfall.

I hope that sits well with you but frankly I don't give a shit. I want my party back and don't want to spend eternity in glorious opposition.

Not aimed just at you so no I don’t monitor you at all. I really don’t care or notice where else you post.

But yeh if you’re going to bother posting on a thread not aimed at you but people not voting Labour you can’t be surprised there are non Labour posts on here. Why call them imaginary or bots?

Are you a Labour bot?

There is another thread aimed at not voting Tory, seems more related to your voting preference. I couldn’t be less interested in reading or posting on that one so why so many Labour voters keen to post on this one?

Clavinova · 09/03/2023 20:19

GPTec1
It was the Truss thing that did it for me, £65bn lost in just a few weeks

FullFact Oct 2022
Claims that the Bank of England has already spent £65 billion to support the economy following the government’s mini-Budget have been widely shared on social media. These claims are inaccurate and misleading.

Labour MP Jess Phillips tweeted: “Perhaps [chancellor Kwasi] Kwarteng can now sit in a room and be forced to count to 65 Billion which was the cost of his mistake.”

While it is correct that the Bank of England was prepared to spend this amount, it’s important to point out that this sum has not actually been spent.

With the help of Full Fact’s artificial intelligence fact checking tools, we’ve also identified claims made in social media posts by some politicians such as shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves and Liberal Democrat MP Sarah Olney which mention the £65 billion figure, though did not go as far as explicitly stating the money had been spent...

fullfact.org/economy/bank-of-england-65-billion-gilts-mini-budget/

Jan 2023
Bank of England's unprecedented bond market intervention yields £3.8bn profit.
The Bank bought £19.3bn worth of government debt - or gilts - in the wake of Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwarteng's mini-budget in September.
It was announced that the £19.3bn of gilts had been sold on the market ... for a total of around £23bn...
This money will eventually be returned to the Treasury.
news.sky.com/story/bank-of-englands-unprecedented-bond-market-intervention-yields-3-8bn-profit-12785237

limitedperiodonly · 09/03/2023 20:29

GPTec1 · 09/03/2023 16:16

Well, clearly they can, because they could delay Sunaks immigration bill for months or let it through on the nod.

But if you think they have no power, get rid.

@GPTec1 The House of Lords has the power to delay but with an 80 seat majority in the Commons they can't stop it. Do you think their power is like something in Harry Potter? And also why should they have that power?

The Government will get this thing through but it won't work because it's a stupid idea but more importantly there is less than two years to go to a General Election and they are desperate.

L1ttledrummergirl · 09/03/2023 20:35

Clavinova · 09/03/2023 20:19

GPTec1
It was the Truss thing that did it for me, £65bn lost in just a few weeks

FullFact Oct 2022
Claims that the Bank of England has already spent £65 billion to support the economy following the government’s mini-Budget have been widely shared on social media. These claims are inaccurate and misleading.

Labour MP Jess Phillips tweeted: “Perhaps [chancellor Kwasi] Kwarteng can now sit in a room and be forced to count to 65 Billion which was the cost of his mistake.”

While it is correct that the Bank of England was prepared to spend this amount, it’s important to point out that this sum has not actually been spent.

With the help of Full Fact’s artificial intelligence fact checking tools, we’ve also identified claims made in social media posts by some politicians such as shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves and Liberal Democrat MP Sarah Olney which mention the £65 billion figure, though did not go as far as explicitly stating the money had been spent...

fullfact.org/economy/bank-of-england-65-billion-gilts-mini-budget/

Jan 2023
Bank of England's unprecedented bond market intervention yields £3.8bn profit.
The Bank bought £19.3bn worth of government debt - or gilts - in the wake of Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwarteng's mini-budget in September.
It was announced that the £19.3bn of gilts had been sold on the market ... for a total of around £23bn...
This money will eventually be returned to the Treasury.
news.sky.com/story/bank-of-englands-unprecedented-bond-market-intervention-yields-3-8bn-profit-12785237

This money will eventually be returned to the Treasury.

It will offset some of the losses from the Bank's quantitative easing programme - which is forecast to lose anywhere from £50bn to £200bn in the next decade.

@Clavinova you missed a bit. I thought I'd include it for you.

Blossomtoes · 09/03/2023 20:51

The House of Lords has the power to delay but with an 80 seat majority in the Commons they can't stop it.

The majority is down to 66 now and I doubt they’ll get the bill through the Lords, of course they can stop it.

limitedperiodonly · 09/03/2023 20:53

Not aimed just at you so no I don’t monitor you at all. I really don’t care or notice where else you post.

@MarshaBradyo for someone who doesn't care or notice you know a lot more about my posts than me.

Since 1983 I have always voted Labour except for 2019 when I made a deliberate decision to try to remove Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party.

It worked but as I said I played a tiny part in his downfall.

I will vote Labour at the next election and would encourage people to do the same. No pressure.

I think that is a good thing but I don't give a fuck whether that is okay with you.

nationallampoons · 09/03/2023 20:54

They're too left!

MarshaBradyo · 09/03/2023 20:58

limitedperiodonly · 09/03/2023 20:53

Not aimed just at you so no I don’t monitor you at all. I really don’t care or notice where else you post.

@MarshaBradyo for someone who doesn't care or notice you know a lot more about my posts than me.

Since 1983 I have always voted Labour except for 2019 when I made a deliberate decision to try to remove Jeremy Corbyn as leader of the Labour Party.

It worked but as I said I played a tiny part in his downfall.

I will vote Labour at the next election and would encourage people to do the same. No pressure.

I think that is a good thing but I don't give a fuck whether that is okay with you.

I don’t know anything about you nor care to really 🤷‍♂️

Only that you and other Labour voters are attracted to a thread aimed at non Labour voters when there’s an alternative aimed at your voting preference.

Why not all go there?

I’d rather do anything else than hang out on a thread with majority Labour voters like that one so why so keen to do the opposite?

limitedperiodonly · 09/03/2023 20:59

Blossomtoes · 09/03/2023 20:51

The House of Lords has the power to delay but with an 80 seat majority in the Commons they can't stop it.

The majority is down to 66 now and I doubt they’ll get the bill through the Lords, of course they can stop it.

@Blossomtoes It's 66 but still enough. It's not like the Tories are going to be wheeling MPs into the lobbies on their death beds.

The reality is that this government is on borrowed time. Less than two years

Yulelogs · 09/03/2023 21:00

I don’t know what their policies are. They criticised everything the tories do but I’m.m not clear what they’d do differently. More publicity needed. Also not sure they’d protect Womens rights so I’d never vote for them.

Not sure who I’ll vote for now.

limitedperiodonly · 09/03/2023 21:02

MarshaBradyo · 09/03/2023 20:58

I don’t know anything about you nor care to really 🤷‍♂️

Only that you and other Labour voters are attracted to a thread aimed at non Labour voters when there’s an alternative aimed at your voting preference.

Why not all go there?

I’d rather do anything else than hang out on a thread with majority Labour voters like that one so why so keen to do the opposite?

@MarshaBradyo are you a Tory voter? If so I think you have bigger problems than me.

MarshaBradyo · 09/03/2023 21:05

I doubt it. I’m happy thanks. Just trying to avoid all the Labour loyalists who clog up every political thread on mn even when it doesn’t apply to them.

It was a good thread for the most part. Interesting and unlike usual mn political fodder.

limitedperiodonly · 09/03/2023 21:10

@MarshaBradyo that's grand. Do I have your permission to continue posting on this thread?

As I said, I don't give a fuck. Why do you?

DancingDaughter50 · 09/03/2023 21:10

@limitedperiodonly

I'm sure you post under different names but I've not noticed you under this one for a while.

I used to really enjoy your posts!

Clavinova · 09/03/2023 21:15

L1ttledrummergirl
It will offset some of the losses from the Bank's quantitative easing programme - which is forecast to lose anywhere from £50bn to £200bn in the next decade.
you missed a bit. I thought I'd include it for you

You missed a bit - link in the article;

Bank of England ends one of the most remarkable economic exercises in history: quantitative easing
This is the end of an era - and the beginning of another. It is one of the most important watershed moments in recent economic history - not that you'd necessarily have noticed it.
For this afternoon is when the era of quantitative easing (QE) gives way to the era of quantitative tightening (QT).
The Bank of England, which has spent the past decade and a bit buying up government debt, in an effort, originally, to keep the economy afloat, begins the process of selling that debt.

news.sky.com/story/bank-of-england-ends-one-of-the-most-remarkable-economic-exercises-in-history-quantitative-easing-12735656

MarshaBradyo · 09/03/2023 21:16

limitedperiodonly · 09/03/2023 21:10

@MarshaBradyo that's grand. Do I have your permission to continue posting on this thread?

As I said, I don't give a fuck. Why do you?

Why would you want to post on this thread?

There’s a non Tory version. Free from Tory posts.

limitedperiodonly · 09/03/2023 21:21

DancingDaughter50 · 09/03/2023 21:10

@limitedperiodonly

I'm sure you post under different names but I've not noticed you under this one for a while.

I used to really enjoy your posts!

Thanks but I don't. If you are concerned you can always ask MNHQ

DancingDaughter50 · 09/03/2023 21:23

@limitedperiodonly

I'm not concerned at all. I just wanted to say I used to enjoy your posts!

We had a chat about shops and shoes and discount stores and many things quite a while ago.

DancingDaughter50 · 09/03/2023 21:23

Oh and maybe rats in gardens?

limitedperiodonly · 09/03/2023 21:26

MarshaBradyo · 09/03/2023 21:16

Why would you want to post on this thread?

There’s a non Tory version. Free from Tory posts.

Why would you want to avoid polite conversation on such an important issue?

I promise not to use the word f* in future.

limitedperiodonly · 09/03/2023 21:30

@DancingDaughter50 I've talked about all those things but what has that to do with this?

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