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Childfree people ranting about parents

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the7Vabo · 22/02/2023 09:59

Came across a thread on another site full of people ranting about children entitled “parents not everything is about you.” I get it to a point, as a parent I think society has become somewhat a overly child-centred. I assume however that the odd stories you see about parents demanding people give up train seats for ten year olds are just that, the odd story of unreasonable behaviour that people in all groups can be guilty of.

The extent of the comments on that thread baffled me. Full of I’m so glad I don’t have children because X, Y. It’s one thing to want to be child free which to me is a perfectly valid life choice, but I’m baffled by the level of bitching about parents & children. If someone wants to be child free why can’t they simply be child free & accept that others didn’t make that choice instead of ranting about how parents are always on at them about how fulfilled they are while at the same time ranting about how terrible it would be to have kids.

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BadNomad · 22/02/2023 17:56

Ok so you want to get rid of every section except for the "being a parent" subcategory? No AIBU, relationships, infertility, TTC (unless already a parent), health, money, legal, property, pets, travel, work, and obviously sex?

KimberleyClark · 22/02/2023 17:58

BadNomad · 22/02/2023 17:56

Ok so you want to get rid of every section except for the "being a parent" subcategory? No AIBU, relationships, infertility, TTC (unless already a parent), health, money, legal, property, pets, travel, work, and obviously sex?

Also TV, films, books, Chat?

ConfusedNT · 22/02/2023 17:58

Applesandcarrots · 22/02/2023 17:56

Well there are two ways to do that.
1- discuss only parental and ttc topics
2-ban people with no kids but how

Not TCC unless you already have 1 child of course

I came for tcc but apparently should have deregistered after my multiple miscarriages

Maybebabyno2 · 22/02/2023 17:59

Norriscolesbag · 22/02/2023 17:53

To be honest I think Mumsnet is very confused in what it’s about. I really don’t see the harm in it being solely a parenting and supporting parents website- but clearly that’s a taboo thing these days.

Is there a magical understanding of life granted to parents to help them better understand and contribute to parking threads and recipe suggestions?

BadNomad · 22/02/2023 17:59

KimberleyClark · 22/02/2023 17:58

Also TV, films, books, Chat?

I missed those. Thank you.

LoveHearts69 · 22/02/2023 18:00

The problem with the specific thread mentioned is they constantly compare their thread to the baby one. The difference is that no one on the baby thread talks about childfree people, their bodies, links to articles on childless people and just general comments on how shit their life and everything in it must be. Yet that is ALL they post on their childfree thread, just constant hatred of mothers and children.

The thing is, most parents our age couldn’t GAF if someone wants to have children or not, we all know lots who have made that decision, it’s not unusual in the slightest anymore. But these people on this thread have made it their personality and paint themselves to be the victims when actually the ones making the nasty judge comments are them!

Norriscolesbag · 22/02/2023 18:00

Applesandcarrots · 22/02/2023 17:56

Well there are two ways to do that.
1- discuss only parental and ttc topics
2-ban people with no kids but how

True. I just don’t get childfree posters who come on here and argue the toss with parents about why they shouldn’t ever complain and that their lives are just as hard, if not harder than parents. I don’t know, it just seems intrusive to me. It just wouldn’t be done the other way around (well I really hope it wouldn’t!!)

SashaPearce · 22/02/2023 18:01

Ruralbeau · 22/02/2023 17:16

I find the 'what about when you're old?' question interesting. I think people in the UK are very very focused on the nuclear family. Growing up I had uncles and aunts and surrogate grandparents and I was there for them when they were old and was glad to help out they died. NONE of these people were related to me. One had lost an adult child and one had estranged sons. Life is a lot more nuanced.

Where did you grow up?

Tumbleweed101 · 22/02/2023 18:02

I have four children all reasonably average happy healthy children. I had them young when I was naive about the world.

I now work in a nursery and seeing how many ND children, how many physical issues, language and communication difficulties there can be I think I'd almost be frightened to have children now. Not because I'd love a child less with issues to deal with but because of how life changing that would be to a family.

My eldest children are of an age where they may start families of their own soon and I'm very torn between the natural urge to want grandchildren to knowing how much of an impact it could have on the lives if my own children. Healthy typical children are hard work, the extra worry and stress that children who have obstacles to every day life would be so much more.

ConfusedNT · 22/02/2023 18:02

Norriscolesbag · 22/02/2023 18:00

True. I just don’t get childfree posters who come on here and argue the toss with parents about why they shouldn’t ever complain and that their lives are just as hard, if not harder than parents. I don’t know, it just seems intrusive to me. It just wouldn’t be done the other way around (well I really hope it wouldn’t!!)

You really are doubling down on misrepresenting a lot of the posts on this thread arent you

Norriscolesbag · 22/02/2023 18:03

ConfusedNT · 22/02/2023 18:02

You really are doubling down on misrepresenting a lot of the posts on this thread arent you

Saying it how I see it.

BadNomad · 22/02/2023 18:05

I can just imagine it.

"I got rear-ended in ASDA carpark. Who was in the wrong?"
"Was your child in the car?"
"No. They were at school."
"Then why are you asking this here? This is a PARENTING forum. Take it to CarAccidentNet."

KimberleyClark · 22/02/2023 18:06

Norriscolesbag · 22/02/2023 18:00

True. I just don’t get childfree posters who come on here and argue the toss with parents about why they shouldn’t ever complain and that their lives are just as hard, if not harder than parents. I don’t know, it just seems intrusive to me. It just wouldn’t be done the other way around (well I really hope it wouldn’t!!)

I’ve never seen anyone open a thread on here specifically to claim that having kids is shit. I have however frequently seen threads specifically asking the opinions of childless/childfree people about some aspect of life without children being invaded by parents to post that life with children is better,

Norriscolesbag · 22/02/2023 18:11

KimberleyClark · 22/02/2023 18:06

I’ve never seen anyone open a thread on here specifically to claim that having kids is shit. I have however frequently seen threads specifically asking the opinions of childless/childfree people about some aspect of life without children being invaded by parents to post that life with children is better,

I’d read this thread again then.

KimberleyClark · 22/02/2023 18:14

Norriscolesbag · 22/02/2023 18:11

I’d read this thread again then.

I’d read my post and the OP’s post again then. She wasn’t talking about Mumsnet, I was.

FrostyFifi · 22/02/2023 18:16

ban people with no kids but how

I know! Make people submit photo ID and their child's birth certificate. Notarised of course. I mean the number of users will fall off a cliff as almost no-one will bother, and the owner will lose most of their revenue, but hey, at least those precious mummy-eyes will be protected from the vile words of the child free.

FrostyFifi · 22/02/2023 18:19

I don’t know, it just seems intrusive to me. It just wouldn’t be done the other way around (well I really hope it wouldn’t!!)

Have you not seen the many threads, on here, in AIBU which has stuff-all to do with parenting specifically, aimed at the child-free, which then get filled with parents offering their unasked-for opinion? So I can assure you it's very much done.

Simply put, there isn't another large, active forum that is largely woman-focussed and I actually think it's horrible to try and keep that exclusive to only those women who have had or been able to have children. Regardless of the name of the site, it's developed as a huge social resource for women.

horriblechristmas2022 · 22/02/2023 18:20

@Norriscolesbag

You sound utterly ghastly I must admit

FlippyFloppyShoe · 22/02/2023 18:23

KimberleyClark · 22/02/2023 18:06

I’ve never seen anyone open a thread on here specifically to claim that having kids is shit. I have however frequently seen threads specifically asking the opinions of childless/childfree people about some aspect of life without children being invaded by parents to post that life with children is better,

Really @KimberleyClark how about these two...in fact I'm pretty sure you have commented on one...

www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/4667490-regret-having-children

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4710477-to-regret-having-children

Applesandcarrots · 22/02/2023 18:27

FrostyFifi · 22/02/2023 18:16

ban people with no kids but how

I know! Make people submit photo ID and their child's birth certificate. Notarised of course. I mean the number of users will fall off a cliff as almost no-one will bother, and the owner will lose most of their revenue, but hey, at least those precious mummy-eyes will be protected from the vile words of the child free.

You can't do photo id for brits. It's against human rights or something like that🙈

FrostyFifi · 22/02/2023 18:28

You can't do photo id for brits. It's against human rights or something like that

Tough! No passport or driver's licence and no offspring, no MN!

Roominmyhouse · 22/02/2023 18:33

LoveHearts69 · 22/02/2023 18:00

The problem with the specific thread mentioned is they constantly compare their thread to the baby one. The difference is that no one on the baby thread talks about childfree people, their bodies, links to articles on childless people and just general comments on how shit their life and everything in it must be. Yet that is ALL they post on their childfree thread, just constant hatred of mothers and children.

The thing is, most parents our age couldn’t GAF if someone wants to have children or not, we all know lots who have made that decision, it’s not unusual in the slightest anymore. But these people on this thread have made it their personality and paint themselves to be the victims when actually the ones making the nasty judge comments are them!

Yeah that's not how the threads in question are at all...

LoveHearts69 · 22/02/2023 18:46

Roominmyhouse · 22/02/2023 18:33

Yeah that's not how the threads in question are at all...

You sure? Do you see any of these gross personal comments about other women’s bodies on the actually very funny and supportive baby thread? Thought not.

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Applesandcarrots · 22/02/2023 18:51

Tbf that first argument is not really wrong. Like logically, not all the kids will grow up amazing.
Rest is ott.

Why are we bringing Tattle in? I missed that

LoveHearts69 · 22/02/2023 18:53

Applesandcarrots · 22/02/2023 18:51

Tbf that first argument is not really wrong. Like logically, not all the kids will grow up amazing.
Rest is ott.

Why are we bringing Tattle in? I missed that

Because that’s what the OP was referring to.

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