To be so angry with my 19 year old son

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So my son has announced today that he had his review at work and told them he’s looking for other jobs . They said they were happy to keep him employed full time but after this news he’s being let go . Surely (and in my employment experience) you get another job first . He was earning good money in this job . I know he wasn’t keen on working weekends but giving up a job that pays good money without another job to go to just seems like utter madness. I was so angry this morning I had to go out for a few hours .

Arf at the irony of objecting to plonker whilst simultaneously calling posters Karens. Catch yerself on you muppet!

Don’t say ‘Karen’s’ unless you want people to assume you aren’t that bright

Im shocked that people aren’t more horrified he’s been sacked for stating he’s looking for another job. Pretty sure that isn’t entirely legal.

Agreed. Surely that isn't a legitimate reason to terminate a contract?

If he's on probation they can.

Only because there's no recourse to a tribunal under 2 years' service.

A reputable employer would extend the probation and give the employee measurable targets and monitor regularly. If the improvement doesn't materialise, then the statutory '3 step' process should be followed, giving the employee an opportunity to appeal.

There's nowhere an employee can go though if they don't.

Hi All

how do I deal with this situation, my daughter became friends with a girl in her class and I became friends with her mum, all was good but there has been a few issues with friends falling out, and I feel every time she gets funny with me…..
well today is my daughters birthday and on the weekend I had a party for her, the friend was invited and so was friend (mum), today i woke up with a text saying can you not knock for me, we want to walk to school alone…. that’s okayinthought, but I felt the mum (friend)was really off with me so I text saying “you okay” you seem quite and apparently my daughter said something to her daughter at the party (I have no idea what was said she didn’t say) they are 8, I feel she shouldn’t have addressed this on my daughters birthday and now not sure if this friendship can survive really…. Just don’t want it to be weird at the school gate…..
just feel really upset and can’t be asked to have school mum friends…
would you be upset or am I being silly….😔

Sorry how do I take down I need to start a new thread…
thank you

I could be wrong but I think you’re more upset and worried rather than angry. I’m sure that something better comes along for him and hopefully it’ll be a job that he loves. Try not to be too hard on him as I’m sure he’s learnt a valuable lesson.

I wouldn't want to work for a company that sacked me for looking for another job. Why would I want to work somewhere that doesn't want me for my skills?

He’s 19, he will have very little by way of workplace skills so far. The company will be making an investment of time and money into a 19 year old recruit. A 19 year old will need more support and training than an established worker.

So if they know the 19 year old is already looking for the next job, there is no point in continuing to make that investment in the new entrant. They might as well find another 19 year old, one that hopefully will have more longevity.

And they do not need a reason to terminate the contract, so long as it is not discriminatory or automatically unfair, and in this case, there is no suggestion that it is either of those things, they are at perfect liberty to terminate the contract, subject to the contractual notice period.

Very stressful for you OP, i'm not surprised you're worried!
I've always drummed into my sons that you don't say anything to employers about leaving until you've secured another job, purely to escape the stress it causes them and me..
Fingers crossed your DS finds something soon, if not i hope he manages to keep momentum going and doesnt get too down.

Fantastic 😂

I'd suggest letting your anger over this one go. He's young, and I'm betting he has learned a lesson from this. And it will stay with him far, far better than you simply advising him on it. Nineteen years old is a time of making mistakes, and learning from them.

The 2 year rule is correct I think, except that if a person can prove the reason for the sacking was discriminatory, then a case for discrimination can be pursued. (I know it doesn't apply in the case of this young man).

It was rather silly of him to tell them he was planning to leave but I think it was spiteful of them to then sack him - unless he was being particularly cocky or made unreasonable demands.

Sorry, I should have read whole thread. I notice that Teeturtle has made the same point about discrimination.

The confidence of youth.

I really doubt he’ll have an issue finding more employment though.

I remember doing something similar as a teenager, it's because of lack experience about what you can/can't say at work. I know it's frustrating, but he will hopefully learn from this experience. The good news is he can now go find somewhere else that he will happier and it will give him the push and motivation to do it

You're correct Domino, they can.
Although that's not what you meant, is it? 😂

If you are employed in the UK, you need to wise up, because Employees need 24 months’ continuous service to be able to claim unfair dismissal.

www.jaluch.co.uk/hr-blast/dismissing-staff-with-short-service/

YANBU for feeling what you feel. They're your reactions and your emotions. It's up to you and only you

YABU expecting a 19 Yr old to think and behave like you and your generation.

It's a good and enviable attitude he and lots of his generation have. There's so many jobs around that our children, thankfully, don't necessarily have to stay in jobs they don't want or put up with the sh&t most of us did.

It also depends on context - how did he come to share this info with them? Was he put on the spot? Did they ask him directly? A good manager would know if his team members aren't happy in their role. And as others have said, if he's been sacked for being honest then he's better off out of there - sounds like a company run by dinosaurs!

He's 19. I was changing jobs all the time until my mid 30s and employers knew because my CV told the full story! I only settled when I became pregnant and was thinking about more than just myself and factoring in needing a steady, safe salary.

Best of luck to him.

I'm astounded by how many PP's are unaware that a 'legitimate' reason for sacking anyone with less than 2 full years service is "I wanted to sack them, so they are sacked."

Make sure that when he is out of work you do not assist him in any way including food etc. I learnt the hard way that this is the only way to make them learn.

I voted YABU because I feel like you might be overlooking the fact he is probably quite wet behind the ears with this kind of thing 🤣 have a chat with him and explain why he needs to be careful with what he says to his employers (and hr) as they are not his friends. Although I don't blame young people for being tricked into believing they can 'open up' !!!!

I never left a job without having one lined up for myself. I'm talking 50 + years ago. He was very silly. Had he told his mum he was looking for another job?

That's ridiculous

He's just lost his job and feeling low and silly and now you dint want to feed him ?