Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

I’m stopping them being grandparents apparently but I don’t know what else I can do?

291 replies

MediationNotWorking · 08/02/2023 12:32

DC is 8, and the only grandchild of my parents.

I am divorced and DC spends EOWend Friday to Sunday with ExH, this is court ordered. ExH refuses to see DC in the week so this is their only time together. I do not ask for a change to contact unless I have a very specific valid reason and can “repay” the contact at a later date.

I work FT across 4 days, ExH pays no maintenance because on paper he earns nothing at all (he lives on fresh air – or more likely out of his parents bank accounts). I use my day off to do appointments for DCs medical condition.
I feel like I hardly see DC in term time/the week. They’re in breakfast club every morning from 7.30am, and then 2 nights a week stay late at school for clubs, they also do scouting one another night a week – I would never ever stop these, DC loves them and gets so much out of them plus it would be being stopped for selfish reasons.

But that means EOWend is protected time. I want to spend time with my DC, take them places or help with their homework or just chill out at home because I basically pay to sleep there in the week.

I know this is typical for many single parents.

My parents hate it. They’re not together anymore so I already have to split myself in two sometimes as they won’t be in a room together. I try and see them both 1 Saturday a month for a couple of hours, sometimes that’s during the weekends DC is with their dad, sometimes I have DC with me.

Both have said it’s disgusting, I should be letting DC stay overnight with them and if that interferes with their contact with their dad then so be it because ExH refuses to do any of the grunt work. They tell me regularly that no-one is going to take DC off me because I stop them going to see ExH.

They’ve also both tried to petition the court for access to DC, 1 overnight a month each and 1 overnight every week of school holidays (so 1 each at October, February and June half terms, 2 nights each at Christmas and Easter, and 6 nights each in the summer). My dad also asked that he be allowed to take DC away for 1 week every year and that it would have to be during term time as he won’t go away in holidays.

It didn’t go to court but there was mediation and neither parent could understand why I can’t commit anymore time than I have. Neither of them have seen DC since Christmas (Mum Christmas Day dad Christmas Eve) because I’ve
just not got the time, I feel like I’m constantly trying to catch my breath and never see my own DC. I have refused both proposals.

Both have said I am stopping them from being proper grandparents, and dads threatened to “cut me off forever with no going back” if I don’t commit to the level of contact he wants.

I will add the mediator both times tell them that I should not ignore the CAO, and they (different ones for mum and dad) did not advise me to do that as it could land me seeing DC even less – and both shouted at the mediator saying it wasn’t fair to them. No resolution was reached in mediation for either.

So what can I do? I can’t do much else? But this stress is crippling me, I need a resolution. Any ideas? I have mediation again next week with one and the week after with the other.

OP posts:
Christmasbahhumbug · 08/02/2023 12:35

Do they live nearby, could they help you by doing afterschool childcare?

Flangeosaurus · 08/02/2023 12:37

What absolute selfish bastards. Tell them fine, no problem, they’ve done you a great favour by demonstrating what horrible people they are and then block. I could not be doing with this level of manipulation.

PuttingDownRoots · 08/02/2023 12:38

Is anything stopping them coming to see you one evening for dinner? Or do they want you to do all the running round?

donttellmehesalive · 08/02/2023 12:39

I am usually all for compromise and seeing the other viewpoint but bloody hell they both sound awful. If accurately presented, their bullying behaviour and demands would make me go nc and I don't say that lightly. They should be trying to make your life easier not harder. Unless you can think of a way they can genuinely help you - picking dc up from school for example - then I think you need to be very firm and feel no guilt about it.

Merlott · 08/02/2023 12:39

They sound disgusting.

They can help by doing after school childcare.

But I'm really worried for you that they filed in court and took you to mediation! I mean what the actual F. That is deranged behaviour.

It definitely sounds like abuse to me so I'd be surprised if this suddenly started happening after you had DC. Do you need counselling to look at your childhood and maybe start to see that these people were and are abusive?

Just because someone's related to you doesn't mean you have to allow a lower standard of behaviour

NerrSnerr · 08/02/2023 12:39

They both sound awful. I'd be seeing them as little as possible (if at all).

Sounds like you're doing brilliantly OP and you should enjoy the time you get with your children.

Maunderingdrunkenly · 08/02/2023 12:39

They sound fucking awful - I would cut them off entirely and sounds like you’re doing all you can do, don’t doubt yourself.
Incredibly selfish it’s all about what they want, are they not aware of the stress they're putting you through?

MediationNotWorking · 08/02/2023 12:39

They want DC to themselves, they don't want me there is what they say. I invite them in the week but they won't come if I'm going to be there.

OP posts:
WineCap · 08/02/2023 12:40

This is bonkers. There isn't a chance that I would be giving in to their demands. They sound entitled and allowing them to get away with this type of disrespectful behaviour is a bad example for your DC. Forget them OP, it's their loss and you sound like you've got more than enough on your plate.

NerrSnerr · 08/02/2023 12:40

That would really worry me. I wouldn't let them see the children then. It can be all of you or none of you.

BubziOwl · 08/02/2023 12:41

MediationNotWorking · 08/02/2023 12:39

They want DC to themselves, they don't want me there is what they say. I invite them in the week but they won't come if I'm going to be there.

Absolutely deranged. Tell them to sod off

GiltEdges · 08/02/2023 12:41

Wouldn’t be engaging any further to be honest, sod the mediation. They’re not your DC’s parents and you’re not required to come to any arrangement. They either accept what you want to offer or they don’t see you or the DC again. It’s that simple, don’t allow them to rule you.

Xdecd · 08/02/2023 12:41

Could he stay with them an evening a week? Or go round for tea after school?
Could they visit you at the weekend and maybe take him out for a couple of hours while you chill at home?
What about school holidays, he could spend more time with them then?
Unless there's a drip feed it does sound like you're finding reasons not to see them. I'm a lone parent and manage a lot more contact than that.
However they sound very difficult. Are you sure you just don't want to see them but are telling yourself it's because you can't find time?

PyjamaFan · 08/02/2023 12:42

They only want to see your DC without you? I don't think so.

They sound horrible. I think your DFs suggestion of cutting you off sounds like a result!

RosaDeInvierno · 08/02/2023 12:42

MediationNotWorking · 08/02/2023 12:39

They want DC to themselves, they don't want me there is what they say. I invite them in the week but they won't come if I'm going to be there.

Fuck right off!!

Block them, they're not acting like decent parents

AnneLovesGilbert · 08/02/2023 12:43

dads threatened to “cut me off forever with no going back” if I don’t commit to the level of contact he wants.

”okay dad, bye”

The only way to deal with this sort of horrendous blackmail is to shrug it off. How fucking dare he. Nothing you do will ever be enough so don’t bloody bother.

I’m so sorry you’re dealing with all of this. It’s outrageous.

plumduck · 08/02/2023 12:43

They sound truly awful. I had some sympathy for them initially but the more I read the more that disappeared.

Flowerfairy101 · 08/02/2023 12:43

Flangeosaurus · 08/02/2023 12:37

What absolute selfish bastards. Tell them fine, no problem, they’ve done you a great favour by demonstrating what horrible people they are and then block. I could not be doing with this level of manipulation.

Absolutely agree with this. They sound horrible and not supportive of you at all. You don't owe them some sort of grandparent experience, and as for going to court for access, how ridiculous. Were they controlling of you growing up?

Camillialane · 08/02/2023 12:43

Only want to see DC without you present? WFT this is a major red flag, anyone pushing to see my DC without me gets a firm no. In your situation I would be reducing contact and doing the 'grey rock' technique.

Sapphire387 · 08/02/2023 12:44

Your own parents tried to take you to court? Mate, I wouldn't let them see DC at all. Clearly they don't have DC's best interests at heart. It's all about them and their wants and needs.

LovelyDayz · 08/02/2023 12:44

If my parents petitioned the court for contact they would never see my child again. That is absolutely outrageous.

Mrsherdwick · 08/02/2023 12:44

You are going through a tough, hard time and they’re making life even more difficult. What selfish horrible people.
Big unmumsnetty hug from me. Take care.💐

GerbilsForever24 · 08/02/2023 12:44

I don't blame them for wanting time with their grandchildren but they do seem to have a very rigid and entitled approach to this.

How close by do they live? Could they do some of the childcare that sc currently picked up by after school clubs? ie pick up DC from school, have them for afternoon, give them dinner etc? Possibly even have them overnight if they cane relied on to get them to school on time?

Or can they do an evening while you go out to gym/friends etc?

I do understand why you don't want them to have weekends without you as you don't get a lot of weekend time yourself, but I'd be letting them have a friday night/Saturday morning occasionally. In the perfect world, you'd then all meet up for a nice lunch or day out after but it sounds like they wouldn't go for that.

They might be right about your ex, but for you to ignore contact arrangements becuase your ex is a prat isn't going to help at all and no judge is going to take kindly to that.

mrsh1807 · 08/02/2023 12:45

Camillialane · 08/02/2023 12:43

Only want to see DC without you present? WFT this is a major red flag, anyone pushing to see my DC without me gets a firm no. In your situation I would be reducing contact and doing the 'grey rock' technique.

This 100%. How strange.

OP he's your son, these are your choices, not theirs. How awful for you.

gogohmm · 08/02/2023 12:45

Could they pick up from school and take to scouts, alternating between them? Give you one evening to yourself?

Swipe left for the next trending thread