To think that a man standing outside a school in girls uniform is not OK?

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Name changed as this is very local and he was seen wearing my DD's school uniform.

A local school uniform shop shared images to reassure parents they would not be selling him any items. Essex police say he poses no risk and people should stop sharing the photos. He looks to be late 50s/early 60s.

He's been seen around schools - both primary and secondary - dressed as a school girl (in their uniform). I am fucking outraged that the police don't seem to think that's an issue. God forbid we offend men or shame their fetishes.

AIBU that this must be an antisocial behaviour at the very least?

Nothing will be done about this man as he will come under the magic trans rights umbrella.

Then when he moves up to flashing or trying to touch the kids, he will magically either not be a 'real' or 'true' trans person or will be, but it will be just one bad apple and definitely not a reason to make anyone else change their behaviour and not allow adult men to flaunt their sexual fetishes in public.

Because pervy men's rights to get off are ALWAYS put first.

Welcome to Stonewall World.

Unfortunately I agree with a lot of previous posters - a kicking from a few large angry dads is about all that's going to work.

Back in the day this man would have been dealt with by some of the school Dads. Not that I’m advocating violence against anyway. Absolutely not.

*anyone

I’m baffled at how the police have decided he “doesn’t pose a risk” and are stating it as fact.

There’s all sorts of laws this could potentially come under. I’d consider this at least anti social behaviour giving the amount of upset he’s causing to parents and children.

Not on at all.

One way to fix it is to abandon a uniform policy for a while. Let the kids come in mufty.

I’m sure the school and Police will be aware of this strange situation.

The school have no jurisdiction outside their premises and until the man commits an offence he cannot be arrested.

It may be that the Police could offer words of advice? I suspect the man is in more danger than pupils. Especially from people like the poster who suggested that a few Dads might like to help out?

There are people who don’t fit social norms, who worry and cause concern, weirdos if you like. Some may set out to cause offence, some have a misguided mission (like the one mentioned earlier who shouted political statements at a school) other are harmless who just don’t fir in.

I can understand how this man is causing concern - but he’s in the open. The ones hiding in plain sight are more dangerous.

My take from that article is the individual is seen as mentally vulnerable and the police are trying to make sure an act of vigilantism doesn’t take place.

Surely anyone persistently lingering outside a school with no other reason, is behaving suspiciously?

If he’s loitering outside the school causing offence, isn’t that harassment?

Whilst I agree it's unusual behaviour he hasn't done anything wrong. I'm assuming there's no danger he could be mistaken for a school child and somehow infiltrate the school.
Is he at your school? Does he have multiple uniforms? What is it that you're concerned about? Why do you automatically assume it's fetishism...and what if it was. Is there any indication that the kids are in danger? Would you feel the same if it was Dylan Mulvaney, Grayson Perry or me?
Surely the answer is to educate the children that people are different, but to recognise eg signs of grooming.
He's doing nothing illegal or immoral in my eyes.

Women - trust your gut feeling, it’s telling you something. Don’t be shamed into ignoring it by the, “He’s misunderstood and means no harm” brigade.

An adult man dressed in a girls’ school uniform, is a sick fuck, indulging a fetish.

Yes and how some people's children do things that can seem strange to people, if that were questioned and being told off for being 'odd' would this be OK?

Would it help to send people's partners to 'sort them out' ?

This is appalling. I can’t believe the police aren’t acting! This is where all the “be kind” rubbish gets you.

What a sick, twisted perverted creature. The police are useless. You are right to be alarmed. All hell would be breaking loose if I was a mum at this school.
This is where it starts. Satisfying his sick fetish before moving on, grooming, abducting, and abusing children.
This country is sick. I often wonder why our laws are so soft on these nasty 'people' They should be dealt with properly. Maybe he has a mental illness that needs attention?!
This is why quite literally people start to take the law into their own hands.

And the police are just, well, I have no words. Bring back Gene Hunt to save us all from this bullshit! I know there will be many officers quietly furious at the this man’s behaviour, but their hands are being tied by some very strange people with some very questionable motives. I am aware that the police can’t arrest him (although I agree with others, check his hard drive) but they can tell him to move on. A quiet word in his ear to fuck off to the other side of fuck should hopefully do it. I do not give a shit what happens to people like this. They are vile and they should be locked up and the key thrown away.

It was extremely disturbing the number of men who had Learning Difficulties caught by Peadophile Hunters who upload their videos on YouTube. Their families and community mostly defended them.

I don’t care if you have every special need under the sun, they still possess a rampant dangerous sexuality and they need to be dealt with… having mental health issues or other umbrella needs does NOT mean you are not a PREDATOR. Makes me furious.

I would advocate for libido suppressing drugs, as I don’t advocate for mutilation, IF that even works.

'Is there any indication that the kids are in danger?'

Eh, yes. He is stalking 3 schools and taking school buses loitering and going there at hometime etc. You would be comfortable with this at your dc's school? This is outrageous.

I'd put money on it being sexual for him.

But it's viewed as unkind for women to know about male pattern sexual violence escalation.

And if you do know anything about it, most certainly don't share it with other women.

Especially if the man is performing a parody of womanhood because he might have uttered some magic words which would mean it was very bigoted for us to think all the knowledge, lived experience, statistics and research on male sexual violence applies to this man as much as any other man.

How does one explain, to a school girl, that "school girl" is actually a porn category? Is this man just making sure all the girls at these schools know their places, nice and young?

There is safeguarding though. If he was not dressing as a school girl, and you saw the same man persistently hanging around a school then most people would see that as an issue. And the police would have a word.

I think the school(s) should probably look into to obtaining an injunction - yes they'd have to pay for it, but it is an option that would hopefully keep him away from the schools.
Although people are saying it's his mental health, the fact he went into the shop and said the box pleat skirt was for his granddaughter suggests to me he knows full well what he is doing is concerning - why lie?

So true tinatea. At the moment this sick stunt will be fulfilling his vile urges, soon it won’t be enough and he’ll need to go further to get that sexual high. People will eventually take the law into their own hands over things like this. I know I would if he was outside my child’s school.

The police force have systemically failed to escalate certain crimes by men (think flashing…) and it has been well
documented since Sarah Everard's case that many serious sex offenders are found to have a history of more “minor offences”which they have not been approximately punished for and allowed to escalate their offending. They are used to dismissing actions such as this as “harmless” or “victimless”.

I’d be astounded if there isn’t a sexual motive behind his actions. And his actions appear calculated - buying uniforms from several schools, some miles apart. I think he knows exactly what he’s doing.

@JudgeRudy the cross dressers you mention don’t spend time hanging outside schools and wear a variety of clothing - not just school uniform. Yes, he has multiple uniforms. How on earth can his behaviour be seen as anything other than fetishising girls / being a schools girl?