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To think that a man standing outside a school in girls uniform is not OK?

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crinklemum2 · 20/01/2023 08:35

Name changed as this is very local and he was seen wearing my DD's school uniform.

A local school uniform shop shared images to reassure parents they would not be selling him any items. Essex police say he poses no risk and people should stop sharing the photos. He looks to be late 50s/early 60s.

He's been seen around schools - both primary and secondary - dressed as a school girl (in their uniform). I am fucking outraged that the police don't seem to think that's an issue. God forbid we offend men or shame their fetishes.

AIBU that this must be an antisocial behaviour at the very least?

OP posts:
Everyonehasavoice · 20/01/2023 16:42

Boiledbeetle · 20/01/2023 16:32

Why did you react to what should have to you seemed liked an appreciative comment about your thoughts if you thought what you wrote was something that most sensible people would agree with?

I'm confused as to your reaction.

I queried if it was sarcasm
Am I allowed to query a comment that sounds like sarcasm
Are there rules

Ps. I’m not worried whether people agree or disagree, I’m just stating the law. In case people aren’t aware. Trying to be friendly, offer advice, etc etc. isn’t that what talking is all about. Debating, discussing other points of view.

Every one has a voice

Thelnebriati · 20/01/2023 16:42

Groomers groom adults into turning a blind eye, tolerating them; and they do that even if they don't expect to benefit directly.

It seems to be working.

Naunet · 20/01/2023 16:43

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 20/01/2023 16:22

What tends to happen (based on the vast amount of previous evidence) is that the apologists and handmaidens fall silent and it’s never mentioned again.

Nah, they’ll start with the Not All Men bullshit.

SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 20/01/2023 16:43

Oh good grief. I don't get why the police can't go for conduct likely to cause a breach of the peace, if nothing else. Keep on taking him in, til he gets bored and gives up.

Just when I thought I couldn't hate the police any more than I did already..

That facebook page belonging to the Uniform shop is interesting, and as they say, a way of keeping it in the public eye. It's only a matter of time until a local parent has a Hard Word with him. Hopefully they won't get done by the police, but unfortunately... Makes me Sad and Angry.

zen1 · 20/01/2023 16:43

I am incensed by the fact that perverts are allowed to walk around in plain sight protected by the guise of the alphabet soup umbrella.

StephanieSuperpowers · 20/01/2023 16:43

TalVez · 20/01/2023 16:41

It is a fetish, he is turned on by thinking about wearing the uniform, by putting it on and by thinking about it afterwards. If he was wearing a gimp suit outside school he'd arrested.

There was a time that I would have believed that too, but the IKEA thread disabused me of that notion.

DesertIslandCondiment · 20/01/2023 16:43

Naunet · 20/01/2023 16:41

Not against the law for disgusting old perverts to wait outside schools, follow little girls on to a bus and then take pictures of them, but it fucking well should be.

Yes, it should be law!

Tandora · 20/01/2023 16:43

I don’t really see what the problem is.

DesertIslandCondiment · 20/01/2023 16:44

AGAINST THE LAW! FFS!

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 20/01/2023 16:44

Everyonehasavoice · 20/01/2023 16:42

I queried if it was sarcasm
Am I allowed to query a comment that sounds like sarcasm
Are there rules

Ps. I’m not worried whether people agree or disagree, I’m just stating the law. In case people aren’t aware. Trying to be friendly, offer advice, etc etc. isn’t that what talking is all about. Debating, discussing other points of view.

Every one has a voice

I’ll tell you who doesn’t have a voice, everyonehasavoice, children. Children rarely have the opportunity to speak up, so we’ll speak up for them. We don’t give a shit whether he’s broken a law. What he is doing is wrong. It’s wrong and no one will convince us otherwise.

SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 20/01/2023 16:44

Really TandoraTroll ? Hmm

Boiledbeetle · 20/01/2023 16:44

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 20/01/2023 16:39

Because it’s his sexual fetish dawn. It turns him on. He’s getting a kick out of wearing the school uniform in public, otherwise the sad bastard would just be sat wearing it in his box room. It probably started that way, but it’s not enough anymore, and he needs to wear the school girl outfit in public, where he can be seen and ridiculed. It turns him on knowing people are looking at him looking at schoolchildren. It won’t be enough soon though, the sexual high won’t be strong enough. It’ll leave him feeling a bit deflated. So he’ll have to search out a new way to get this kick. I don’t think you have to search very far in your mind to understand what that might consist of. And this is exactly why he shouldn’t be anywhere near a school, or children, or other people for that matter.

Exactly and it makes me wonder what sort of people would try to minimise the behaviour or excuse it.

It's so clear what it's going on but there is a parade of people coming up with a variety of spurious reasons as for why it is ok when it never has been!roll

It's not OK. It's really not.

BelperLawnmower · 20/01/2023 16:44

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 20/01/2023 16:34

How hard of thinking are you? Honestly? We have provided multiple links, Google searches and evidence as to what this pervert is capable of and why dressing like this is wrong. Why isn’t it sinking in? Or do you just not want it to?

This is total drivel! If you want a legal procedure to be used against him there has to be enough evidence to constitute a reasonable suspicion that he has committed a crime or is about to. Googling what other people who dress like him have done is ridiculous, and a much more alarming direction than his behaviour.

He has committed no crime. There is no evidence that he is going to commit a crime. Pissing off the authoritarians of Mumsnet is not a crime.

Tandora · 20/01/2023 16:45

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 20/01/2023 16:44

I’ll tell you who doesn’t have a voice, everyonehasavoice, children. Children rarely have the opportunity to speak up, so we’ll speak up for them. We don’t give a shit whether he’s broken a law. What he is doing is wrong. It’s wrong and no one will convince us otherwise.

But he’s not causing any harm to children?

LexMitior · 20/01/2023 16:45

It's a pretty simple answer. Adult sexuality is not for kids. An adult who does not appear to understand that, and indulges their fantasies or fetishes around children is breaking a boundary that nearly all adults understand should not be. And thus to be regarded with deep suspicion

Thelnebriati · 20/01/2023 16:45

Acting out a kink in front of children is non contact sexual abuse.
Non contact sexual abuse is a crime.

mathanxiety · 20/01/2023 16:45

Is there a possibility that a few eggs well past their best by date might somehow connect with him?

StephanieSuperpowers · 20/01/2023 16:46

It would appeal to my odd sense of humour if all of the dads were to get the same uniform and stand outside with him though, you know, not doing anything. I expect that would give him fewer subversive thrills.

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SpongeBobJudgeyPants · 20/01/2023 16:46

Ignore the bridge dweller. Hmm

BanjoKnickers · 20/01/2023 16:46

I don't get why the police can't go for conduct likely to cause a breach of the peace, if nothing else.

Because there's no legal basis for doing so Hmm

DesertIslandCondiment · 20/01/2023 16:46

Tandora · 20/01/2023 16:45

But he’s not causing any harm to children?

Maybe not physically (YET) but mentally how do you know he's not.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 20/01/2023 16:46

Id like to say that I’m surprised that there are apologists for even this 200 four high red flag behaviour on this thread - but sadly I’m not

LadyMary50 · 20/01/2023 16:46

omnitea · 20/01/2023 14:36

To all the posters here trying to minimise and dismiss our concerns, why are you even wasting your time and energy doing this? We are on to you, we know that people with a vested interest in allowing this sort of behavior to be normalised show up to threads like this where women share information about the predators who threaten them and their children and try to silence them, call them hysterical, bigots and so on. We know this is a tactic, a deliberate attempt to shut down the conversation and warnings we share with each other so you are wasting your time because nothing you say will stop us from discussing this behaviour and from organising against it. Women have fought millenia of oppression to protect ourselves and our children and men and their handmaidens cannot win against us.

My thoughts exactly.💪💪👏👏

MistressoftheDarkSide · 20/01/2023 16:46

Kink and fetish between consenting adults in designated and appropriate spaces relies heavily on the aspect of consent.

Going out and involving unsuspecting adults or children in your kink or fetish takes it into deviance territory and is reviled by responsible fetishists.

This man, whatever his motivations, is wilfully crossing boundaries and if he needs any sort of help to realise that it should be organised by the appropriate authorities primarily to protect the victims - ie the children being exposed to his inappropriate behaviour.

It really isn't rocket science.

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