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To think that a man standing outside a school in girls uniform is not OK?

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crinklemum2 · 20/01/2023 08:35

Name changed as this is very local and he was seen wearing my DD's school uniform.

A local school uniform shop shared images to reassure parents they would not be selling him any items. Essex police say he poses no risk and people should stop sharing the photos. He looks to be late 50s/early 60s.

He's been seen around schools - both primary and secondary - dressed as a school girl (in their uniform). I am fucking outraged that the police don't seem to think that's an issue. God forbid we offend men or shame their fetishes.

AIBU that this must be an antisocial behaviour at the very least?

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Namechangedforthisonetoday · 20/01/2023 09:40

PlusLaMeme · 20/01/2023 09:34

Fucking hell, the gaslighting by some posters!
"Don't trust your gut instructs, ladies, please centre a stranger's needs over those of your children. And remember to be kind"

Fuck that with a box of fries!

I posted about gut instinct on that batshit IKEA thread the other day. Our gut instinct is all we relied on for thousands of years. Long before police, courts, do gooders and other nonsense tried to cloud a woman’s judgement. That instinct exists to protect us from predators. This thing is a predator. That’s why our instinct tells you it’s wrong. So whether it’s against the law or not, whether the police tell you they can’t do anything, and whether the handmaidens want to convince you you’re a prude, listen to your gut. It’s really fucking wrong for a man to hang around outside a school in a school uniform and we all know it. We don’t need to be gaslit, patronised, made to explain and told everything’s fine. It’s not. He’s a dirty pervert and he’s a danger. Listen to your gut, and start kicking up an almighty fuss.

ClearlySeeingTheFuture · 20/01/2023 09:40

Unbelievable that this is deemed ok by the police. Makes me feel sick to the stomach.

Some bloke acting out his sexual perversions in public outside schools and nobody can do anything? How can this be?

HRTQueen · 20/01/2023 09:40

barneshome · 20/01/2023 08:48

This is the new world anyone is entitled to be anything they want and where they want

I would change that to men are entitled to what they want when they want

just as it’s always been apart from a few years in history when we were allowed to safeguard female spaces and set our own boundaries

FrancescaContini · 20/01/2023 09:41

Fucksake 😡
It’s a PRIMARY SCHOOL

JudgeRudy · 20/01/2023 09:41

Well fetishism implies some sort of sexual kick and there's no evidence this is the case, but hey, even if it was...do we now get the Thought Police to lock up individuals for having sexual thoughts?
Yes, its unusual but you can't arrest someone because you think they might do something. I'd be far more worried about the shopkeeper round the corner selling fagscand alcohol to underc16s or the 27 year old guy changing to a 14 year old at the bus stop.

LolaSmiles · 20/01/2023 09:41

Fucking hell, the gaslighting by some posters!
"Don't trust your gut instructs, ladies, please centre a stranger's needs over those of your children. And remember to be kind"
It's terrifying, but not surprising.
Thread after thread on a range of topics here sees some posters telling women not to trust their gut instinct, be kind, suppress your own instincts and put the man first.

Most men wouldn't hang around schools.
Most men wouldn't be wearing school uniform.
Most men would have no issue identifying this man's behaviour as the sort of behaviour they'd want nowhere near their children.
Some women can't seem to get this though because it's important to centre the poor misunderstood man.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 20/01/2023 09:41

It’s so bizarre how differently police deal with things. A guy locally here was ‘advised’ to walk a couple of streets away from his house while waiting for his lift to work as he was making people twitchy standing in the street the school is on at 8.30am when people are arriving for drop off. He was stood outside his flat and got picked up at 8.30/8.35 every morning.

The police were quite insistent that they wouldn’t be happy about him hanging around any longer. Even though he was literally just outside his flat (and definitely not in school uniform).

CelloYouveGotABass · 20/01/2023 09:42

Local FB makes for interesting reading. someone saying their kids are saying he’s tried to “jump the fence” more than once.

Elder years are being given stranger danger talks 🫠

sensechec · 20/01/2023 09:43

BobDear · 20/01/2023 09:37

@sensechec

#giveover

Honestly it was sarcastic, I'm very GC and I think this man is a classic dirty old perv.

sensechec · 20/01/2023 09:44

FrancescaContini · 20/01/2023 09:41

Fucksake 😡
It’s a PRIMARY SCHOOL

Secondary I think. Regardless, it's wrong

Emmamoo89 · 20/01/2023 09:44

So weird

Badger1970 · 20/01/2023 09:45

Men get away with this because society enables them to.

Women seriously need to raise their voices against it instead of rolling over to share our spaces.

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 20/01/2023 09:45

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Yes you’re right, children need to be educated that some people are different. Some people are dangerous, some people are paedophiles and some people should be locked away. Take the kids up to the school fence, inform them that this man is a nonce and that no one should go near him. Oh, that’s not what you meant? Ok then.

Humanwoman · 20/01/2023 09:45

It is obviously a fetish and he is getting his kicks out of this.If he was mentally unwell the police would have moved him on. As he is putting himself in a vulnerable position where he could get attacked. As they have left him they must think he is in a fit state to make decisions for himself.

I cannot believe the parents haven't done something. He wouldnt last 5 minutes round here.

BloodAndFire · 20/01/2023 09:45

sensechec · 20/01/2023 09:44

Secondary I think. Regardless, it's wrong

He has been doing it at 3 different schools (in each school's uniform).

1 primary and 2 secondary.

Tamarindtree · 20/01/2023 09:45

Yet you are not allowed to stand the other side of the road to an abortion clinic, dressed modestly, minding your own business and silently saying a prayer?!

The police are a joke.

RitasR · 20/01/2023 09:47

FFS.

He's a stalker and needs to stay away from schools and buses during school run time.

If he has learning difficulties, it can't be that severe as he is resourceful enough to buy different sets of girls school uniform and wear it 'correctly' loitering round the respective schools.

Including a primary school Envy. He dresses in girls primary school uniform, disgusting. His right to self expression ha cannot and must not come at the cost of the safety and wellbeing of young children on the school run.

It must make the girls feel so uncomfortable, what a selfish pervert. Never wears boys uniform, does he? I bet he has many likeminded internet friends.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 20/01/2023 09:47

ifoundthebread · 20/01/2023 08:43

Unfortunately fashion choices are not a crime and neither is standing outside schools. But i do think its wierd.

You think this is a fashion choice ???????

FrancescaContini · 20/01/2023 09:47

sensechec · 20/01/2023 09:44

Secondary I think. Regardless, it's wrong

Doesn’t really matter, does it, but I skim read the article and it definitely said primary.

He’s wearing a school uniform designed for a primary school-aged girl.

Have the police considered how this may affect the children walking into the school? How confusing it is? How uncomfortable it may make them feel?

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 20/01/2023 09:47

JudgeRudy · 20/01/2023 09:41

Well fetishism implies some sort of sexual kick and there's no evidence this is the case, but hey, even if it was...do we now get the Thought Police to lock up individuals for having sexual thoughts?
Yes, its unusual but you can't arrest someone because you think they might do something. I'd be far more worried about the shopkeeper round the corner selling fagscand alcohol to underc16s or the 27 year old guy changing to a 14 year old at the bus stop.

I’m far more worried about people whose instinct for danger seems to have eroded away. Perhaps that happens when they’re so open minded their brain falls out.

nolongersurprised · 20/01/2023 09:47

Well fetishism implies some sort of sexual kick and there's no evidence this is the case

So there’s no link between school girl uniforms and a sexual kick? Especially when worn by an older man?

you sweet summer child 🙄

Cheekymaw · 20/01/2023 09:47

WTHF? That's a sexual fetish right there? Why are the polis standing by and allowing that dirty auld b* to stand outside a school? Wtf is going on ? That's awful.

Hoppinggreen · 20/01/2023 09:47

Tamarindtree · 20/01/2023 09:45

Yet you are not allowed to stand the other side of the road to an abortion clinic, dressed modestly, minding your own business and silently saying a prayer?!

The police are a joke.

That breaks a law, the breaching of an exclusion zone so The Police can act.
It seems that somehow this perv isn’t breaking any actual laws so they can’t

alchemies · 20/01/2023 09:48

It's Belfairs academy. Secondary

Naunet · 20/01/2023 09:48

JudgeRudy · 20/01/2023 09:41

Well fetishism implies some sort of sexual kick and there's no evidence this is the case, but hey, even if it was...do we now get the Thought Police to lock up individuals for having sexual thoughts?
Yes, its unusual but you can't arrest someone because you think they might do something. I'd be far more worried about the shopkeeper round the corner selling fagscand alcohol to underc16s or the 27 year old guy changing to a 14 year old at the bus stop.

No evidence of this?!! Yes, it’s very normal for grown men to dress up as little school girls just for fashion isn’t it?! Don’t be so bloody naive.

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