To think that caring about what is fashionable is childish?

[QuertyGirl]

Or at least portrays a massive lack of confidence?

I can understand it in teenagers- you're still developing both physically and as a person and conformity is safety.

But for adults? Why would an adult choose clothes because they're "in" as opposed to whether or not you, personally suit them?
That they make you happy, comfortable or make you comfortable?

See plenty of threads on here asking exactly that.

There are multiple fashions in the UK.

You only realise it when you travel to other European countries where everyone seems to wear the same style of clothes the same way and has the same hair cuts.

So my neighbour and I could say both wear skinny jeans (when they were in fashion.) I will look like I'm going to walk the dog there as she will look like a goth.

I wear whatever I like.

Whether or not it's fashionable is of no relevance.

Respectfully, I never said it was “harmless fun”, I said it’s not “childish”. I’d consider that your argument that it’s responsible for an “exploitative, capitalist industry” makes it even less childish.

OP probably thinks she dresses classically French, but in an effortlessly cool way not in a following fashion way.
Throw in a few ‘quirky’ prints and a coloured tight or two.
In reality she probably wears jeans and a jumper 80% of the time, like most people in the uk.
So unique.
So anti fashion.

How are you defining what "suits you"? That is also defined by fashion trends, just on somewhat longer timescales than the fashion "seasons" that happen yearly...

I strongly disagree that "fashion is literally wanting to look like other people". Fashion designers are coming up with new things, new re-imaginings. Then they become popular. Do you think that new avant-garde design (the ones that then get copied) aren't fashion, because they're different?

I think you get it!

There is a multi billion sector that would disagree..........

Even the type of jeans and t-shirt you wear are linked to fashion.

You are unlikely to be wearing the exact style of jeans and t-shirt in the exact materials of the 1970s.

Your shoes, socks and other underwear will also be different in style, colours and materials.

Crikey isn't life hard enough without joy sucking threads like this.

Let people wear what they enjoy. Fashion is more than just following the crowd. Seems quite childish not to know that.

No, I don't think its childish.

I mean if you refused to do the school run because your trainers weren't vejas (or whatevers current) that would be extremely immature, but fashion isn't really the problem there.

You do realise that what you like is determined by your life experience just as how everyone wearing “fashionable” clothes that you judge them for is doing the same? No is out there wearing clothes thinking “this looks awful but, hey, it’s fashion”. Everyone (including you) is wearing clothes that they like.

Fashion is part of the human condition; adults have dressed ‘fashionably’ since the dawn of civilisation.
Its no more stupid or pointless that anything that you like or do.

@Chubbernut

Of course we're all a product of our experiences.

But that's very different from following fashion, in fact I'd say that it takes a certain rejection of your own individual's to do that.

Also, most people "just wear what they like". For a lot of people, what they like is influenced by what they see in the world around them.
E.g. the common clothing shapes at any point in time actually dramatically affect how your outfit is perceived. Items of clothing that "flatter" your body are so dependent on the current fashion trends and what people expect to see. Skinny jeans are such a great example of this. The perception of whether they are flattering has shifted so much from the early 2000s to now

I understand what you’re saying OP, and agree that people who slavishly follow fashion are probably more insecure and imaginative than someone who just wears what the fuck they want. I think the world would be a much more fun, not to mention sustainable place, if we all did the latter.

No idea what's in fashion, can't afford to keep up with trends anyway.

Say no more

@Riapia

Exactly!

If you like the white trainers, wear them!

I don't think choosing to follow fashion and wear on trend clothes is childish. It's not for me personally because I don't have the spare cash to be buying clothes to follow trends and I also have zero fashion sense too. I know fuck all about what colours work with others and stick ti skinny jeans, docs and a marvel t shirt of some sort most days. What I do think childish though, is when the ones who follow trends judge or make implications about the women who don't and I've seen and heard fully grown women pass moral judgement on other mums in the playground when picking up their kids up.

"imagine what her house looks like if she thinks those clothes look good" "I haven't seen jeans like that since the seventies" "she can't like herself much can she?" "Find out her hairdresser so we know to avoid it"

Really horrible comments. That's what's childish.

There's some right cunts in trendy clothes and there's some right cunts in out of trend clothes.

I find discussions around fashion really interesting and thought provoking. On the one hand I can appreciate the skill and creativity that goes with designing clothes and setting new trends but I am also well aware of the horrendous damage done to the environment if people continue consuming fashion at current rates.

I love looking at new styles and trends and find the history of fashion endlessly fascinating but I also do wonder about the psychology of wearing something just because it's of the moment regardless of whether the style is something that you find appealing. I'm thinking recently of the "buffet dresses" or the trend for huge collars and sleeves. It's interesting to me how quickly people seem to embrace a look that only a few years before would have been wtf!! (Tbh I still feel like that about the Holly Hobbie look 😁).

I don't really judge others except for those who consume fast fashion constantly with little thought about the consequences.

I don’t know about childish, it’s just buying to what the people tell you to buy into. Not for me, mainly because I’m a fat fuck so I couldn’t even if I wanted to. I subscribe to the live and let live theory. If people are dead into fashion then that’s fine, it doesn’t affect me what someone else is wearing.

What does fucking irk me though is some people who are screamingly into fashion, seem to sneer at and are downright nasty about those who have a different / out there style. You only have to look at the SandB boards here, the absolute contempt some of those people have for “wacky” brands (irregular choice get an insane amount of it) and the horrible things said about the people who wear them.

I wouldn’t say childish but I do roll my eyes when yet another thread pops up on here asking ‘is xxxxx still in fashion?’ I want to say for God’s sake, you’re a grown woman so wear what you like.

Not at all, some people get a lot of joy out of it.

Being sneery about fashion strikes me as insecure. Don't get me wrong, I doubt anyone would call me fashionable, but I do enjoy clothes. I have friends who are really engaged with trends and they get a kick out of that, it's just their thing.

I agree, OP. Following & attaching importance to fashion indicates that a person lacks the self-confidence to just be themselves, to not follow the herd and to not care what others think.
Personally, I hate tattoos. IDGAF how fashionable they are, I’m still not having one and if that makes me the odd one out in my peer group, that’s just fine by me. Ditto ‘Mom jeans’; ghastly, unflattering things. Not for me.

Fashion is more than what's 'in fashion'. One of my dds is very into 'fashion', I'd call it more style. Buys everything from charity shops, Vinted, depop.

She's wearing what I wore in the 90s as a goth, for a whole lot cheaper.

No fast fashion invoked.

Your POV seems very narrow minded op.