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He has a son ?? 😢

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CharlotteRose90 · 17/01/2023 20:49

So I’ve been seeing a guy for 12 weeks after meeting online dating. Literally dates Atleast twice a week.

anyway tonight he tells me he can’t see me for 2 weeks. I thought he was going away for work so I asked. And his response is he’s having his little boy while the mum goes on holiday.

im absolutely gobsmacked and a little hurt. He has never once mentioned having a child. I also have on my profile that I don’t date people with children. Personal and selfish reasons being that due to a medical reason I need ivf or help to try and have children and I know i won’t get it on the nhs if my partner had a child. For reference I already know I am entitled too it on the nhs for my condition.

what do I do. I do like this guy but he’s lied to me over his child. But then I think what if I don’t meet anyone else I like. Help.

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hugefanofcheese · 19/01/2023 16:15

SaveMeFromMyBoobs · 19/01/2023 13:59

She told him she would need IVF, not that him having a child would have made her ineligible for NHS treatment. Many people (fortunately for them) have no need to know of this rule.

She doesn't need to tell him the exact reasoning.

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yousmellnice · 19/01/2023 16:23

CharlotteRose90 · 19/01/2023 14:29

Thank you for all the comments. I’ve taken them on board. Just thought I’d say since people are accusing me of not wanting to be a stepmum. I have nothing against stepmums and would quite happily be one in the future with the right person. But I want my own children first and That doesn’t make me a bad person. If obviously I can’t conceive then once I’ve sought therapy to accept it I’d be open to meeting someone with kids.

I also want to apologise if my posts triggered anyone that is a stepparent or single mums . There is nothing against you and if it works for you it works for you. I just have my own boundaries and I want to stick to them.

Stepmum here and I totally get it. I needed help to have my DC and at times it was really hard with my DSC around. If I'd known before hand I'd struggle I'm not sure I would have made the same choice again if I'm brutally honest

All the best OP.

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YetMoreNewBeginnings · 19/01/2023 16:58

SaveMeFromMyBoobs · 19/01/2023 13:59

She told him she would need IVF, not that him having a child would have made her ineligible for NHS treatment. Many people (fortunately for them) have no need to know of this rule.

That's an interesting assumption considering the OP has said that she was very open with him in the conversation about children in future.

Your need to apportion some blame to the OP is bizarre.

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Ellyesse · 19/01/2023 17:03

You have nothing to explain. What you are doing is absolutely fair, right and reasonable. I hope all step mums understood this. It is clear that from the day you knew you'd need IVF to have a baby you have always hoped to fall in love with somebody who would be the father. I understand perfectly.

Whatever you had asked of the people you invited to respond to you on the dating page, if someone was found to be lying in their response then you would know you could not trust them. You could have asked people who were under 60y.o. not to reply for all I care, the point is, he lied! Well, in fact, I do care that he lied about being a father actually because it is a serious matter in many ways. Sorry, I'm really just trying to say, I believe you have the right to follow your life your way. You do not need to explain, and you have the right to desire to have a baby of your own. I really hope a good kind man soon falls in love with you, and you with him, and all goes well. God bless you.

By the way, I do know a single mum who had a donor sperm baby using her implanted eggs following her chemotherapy, some years ago. I suppose she paid for treatment herself. I just wondered if there was any possible chance of your being able to have your baby even if you need donor sperm. Maybe I'm not helping, sorry.

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SaveMeFromMyBoobs · 19/01/2023 17:40

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 19/01/2023 16:58

That's an interesting assumption considering the OP has said that she was very open with him in the conversation about children in future.

Your need to apportion some blame to the OP is bizarre.

I'm not blaming her at all, I said straight off to bin him. All I meant was that he saw no kids, he thought she didn't want to be a step mum and could change her mind (very wrongfully, he should have respected that decision).

She could explain to him that wasn't the issue and that him having a child would have prevented her, and any future partners of his, from being able to access NHS IVF. She doesn't have to, she doesn't 'owe' an explanation. But it may help him understand the full extent of his fuck up that his lie would have taken away her best shot at being able to have a child that she had been very clear with him she wanted.

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YetMoreNewBeginnings · 19/01/2023 17:45

SaveMeFromMyBoobs · 19/01/2023 17:40

I'm not blaming her at all, I said straight off to bin him. All I meant was that he saw no kids, he thought she didn't want to be a step mum and could change her mind (very wrongfully, he should have respected that decision).

She could explain to him that wasn't the issue and that him having a child would have prevented her, and any future partners of his, from being able to access NHS IVF. She doesn't have to, she doesn't 'owe' an explanation. But it may help him understand the full extent of his fuck up that his lie would have taken away her best shot at being able to have a child that she had been very clear with him she wanted.

You're assuming constantly that she didn't tell him that bit. She said she was very open about everything and saw no point not to be so why the constant need to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume she didn't tell him that bit?

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Frosty1000 · 19/01/2023 17:55

I've skim read most of the thread. Not really going to comment on the situation as you've done the right thing, a lie is a lie.

Anyway what I wanted to say is don't bank on IVF from NHS. Start saving now as it's on its knees and I know from experience that they really don't want to spend money on it and it's really half hearted - I've been there, they dragged their heels on tests and finally said no. Going private, yes costly, is your best bet as you'd be treated like a queen x

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RaiseTheStakesAndMakeTheLastWordDuckhead · 19/01/2023 18:07

Laurdo · 19/01/2023 14:58

I'm a stepmum and as much as I love it, it can be tough. It's not for everyone! I don't want my own kids so I'm in a completely different situation from you. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to date single dads. I always said I wouldn't, not because of the kids but because of the horror stories of dealing with the crazy mother's I heard from my friends. But sometimes you can't help who you fall in love with and of all the crazy exs to have to deal with my DHs is probably the craziest! 🤣

People are allowed to have preferences, boundaries and visions for their life. People probably wouldn't bat an eyelid at someone having a preference for dark haired men over light haired men, but have plenty to say if someone prefers to date someone without kids when that has a much greater impact on your life than the colour of someone's hair.

You don't need to explain yourself to anyone. You have the right to decide who to date and who not to and the least you can expect is that people don't lie or lead you on.

Wishing you all the best with dating. There are good men out there. I hope you get your happy ever after and the family that you want.

This post could have been written by me (only difference being I was only dating men with children because I knew I didn't want them and I had previously had a relationship end due to my refusal to have kids)! Agree 100% with every word of this. Being a stepparent is challenging and I wholeheartedly support those who don't want to do it.

Good luck OP. x

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JenniferBooth · 21/01/2023 14:47

@Pinklemons9 So yet again a woman (who the child doesnt even know) owes more to the child than the childs OWN FATHER.

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KettrickenSmiled · 21/01/2023 15:29

It saddens me that not everyone is interested in being a step parent

How bizarre, & ...oddly sanctimonious.
It's a personal choice & naff-all to do with you, @Pinklemons9
Are you also saddened that not everybody wants to go ice-skating, or become a doctor, or visit Canada?

If everyone wanted to be a step-parent, there wouldn't be enough lids to go round. Would you be happy to have yours loaned out on a timeshare, just so that everyone can have a go at step-parenting?

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KettrickenSmiled · 21/01/2023 15:30

kids, not lids!

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KettrickenSmiled · 21/01/2023 15:34

Maybe inconvenience was the wrong choice of word but however you say it, she has no interest in the child, that’s her choice and that’s fine. However, the child deserves more than that. How you all can’t see that is disappointing!

What do you think this child, who is a total stranger to OP & doesn't even know she exists, deserves from her @Pinklemons9?

You make it sound as if, having heard about him for the first time in 3 months of dating, OP somehow now owes him something & should rush to adopt him.

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Whiskeypowers · 21/01/2023 17:10

JenniferBooth · 21/01/2023 14:47

@Pinklemons9 So yet again a woman (who the child doesnt even know) owes more to the child than the childs OWN FATHER.

Basically yes it would appear so

lunacy

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Hagpie · 21/01/2023 17:11

The fact that you don’t want to date someone with kids is enough. You have a very good reason but you don’t need to justify yourself at all. Good luck on your journey OP!

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JenniferBooth · 22/01/2023 13:41

Exhibit A. A dad here talks about being "stuck with the kids" one of whom is the posters step child.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4725582-dh-not-speaking-to-me-because-i-went-out?page=1

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DarceyG · 23/01/2023 13:23

the Bottom line is he is liar I dated a liar and if he said it was raining I’d need to check. Relationships with liars are horrible I’d never stay with someone like this. Some people are just pathological and it can cover up serious personality disorders. Bin this one for good.

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Stewball01 · 26/01/2023 12:35

If you both were having a conversation about children, that was the time to come clean about his little boy. He missed his chance. Finish it for good. 😔.

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WaffleIron · 26/01/2023 12:39

It sounds to me like he doesn't have a child, but has said this to make you cut ties so he doesn't have the awkward responsibility of doing it himself. Especially if it's clearly marked in your profile. Did you say something to upset him?

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KettrickenSmiled · 26/01/2023 12:55

WaffleIron · 26/01/2023 12:39

It sounds to me like he doesn't have a child, but has said this to make you cut ties so he doesn't have the awkward responsibility of doing it himself. Especially if it's clearly marked in your profile. Did you say something to upset him?

🙄
Man tells woman outrageous porker to trick her into dating him.
Woman discovers lie, man confesses.

PP: It must be the woman's fault! She upset him, so he was never lying in the first place, he just came up with ... yes that's it! - an emergency lie because he didn't know how to finish with her after she upset him.


Sure he wanted to cut ties.
That'll be why he kept messaging her after the lie came out, & sent flowers to her work, thinking he'd get a second chance ...
Makes perfect sense. 😂

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Merryoldgoat · 26/01/2023 12:57

Are you being dim on purpose? Or is it some kind of ruse?

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KettrickenSmiled · 26/01/2023 13:36

Merryoldgoat · 26/01/2023 12:57

Are you being dim on purpose? Or is it some kind of ruse?

😂if that's aimed at me Merry - I dunno, not bright enough to work out the difference ...

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Merryoldgoat · 26/01/2023 13:41

@KettrickenSmiled Christ no - I was agreeing with you!

The twit above @WaffleIron

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KettrickenSmiled · 26/01/2023 13:58

Having clocked your posting style round these parts for donkey's goat's years @Merryoldgoat I kinda assumed so, but then started wondering if I'd somehow been a stupid ass kid Wink

Cheers for the reassurance!

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Merryoldgoat · 26/01/2023 14:06

@KettrickenSmiled

Oooh! I feel famous! And old 🤣

I know I can be a cunt sometimes, but Jesus - the basic comprehension skills completely devoid in some posters makes me despair. I try not to think people are ACTUALLY stupid but it’s impossible at times like this.

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KettrickenSmiled · 26/01/2023 14:22

Merryoldgoat · 26/01/2023 14:06

@KettrickenSmiled

Oooh! I feel famous! And old 🤣

I know I can be a cunt sometimes, but Jesus - the basic comprehension skills completely devoid in some posters makes me despair. I try not to think people are ACTUALLY stupid but it’s impossible at times like this.

😂😂😂
You may be a cunt but you're our cunt Merry.

Rather have you onside than some pass-agg wet lettuce #BeKind-er.
& don't get me started on the PP who is urging OP to become a surrendered sister-wife ...

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