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Feel like a b!tch but I’ve had enough! AIBU?

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Dromerdary · 17/01/2023 14:12

The older I get, the more I just feel used by people. I purposefully keep my circle small for this reason.

A few years ago, I started a relationship with a long standing friend who had been there a lot for me. He had some issues and past trauma which appeared to affect his whole life, mainly his self esteem, and therefore his ability to earn. He practically moved in with me but maintained his own place, a room in a house owned by an older lady, somewhere he could have his kids on the weekends.

I never asked him for anything but accepted his offer to do DIY around the house as his ‘contribution’. Except he wouldn’t get round to it or would insist I be there to help rather defeating the point. There were other issues around his personal hygiene and how messy he was. I also started to feel frustrated that he would ask me to help him get his life on track but wouldn’t do anything to help himself. My DC started to resent him being there all the time.

I found it really difficult to break up because I was so worried about him coping on his own, but I found the courage to end things. Since then, he’s made excuses to visit - all of his stuff is here and he still has a key so sometimes he’ll come unannounced and then won’t leave for hours. My DC get cross with me when he’s here but he seems so upset and forlorn that it’s hard to tell him to go.

His landlady told him a while ago that he’d need to leave in a few months time because she had a relative moving in with her. They had a similar arrangement that he’d get reduced rent in exchange for DIY jobs that he clearly wasn’t doing because she told him he’d either have to start doing the jobs or she’d increase his rent. He hasn’t reacted well to this and is now sleeping in his car instead of staying there or either finding somewhere else to live or asking his siblings to help who both live locally. He hasn’t even told them we’ve broken up because he doesn’t want them to ask questions.

He messaged to ask if he could come over to use the shower so I agreed but of course he didn’t leave because he doesn’t want to go home. He was then asking if I could help him with his CV even though I already did that last year and I’m busy with other stuff. He kept bothering me so I was kind of being blunt and ignoring him. Then he asked if he could sleep in my bed for an hour so I snapped and told him I get it in the neck from my DC whenever he’s here. So he left, obviously upset and I feel bad because he’s probably going to sit in his car in sub zero temperatures for the next week instead of just sucking it up and staying at his landlady’s house until he finds somewhere else. He’s acting like he’s the only one to experience undesirable living conditions but I stayed for months with an abusive ex until we could get to safety. He has health issues that will be exacerbated by living in his car.

I normally go out of my way to help people but I’m just at the end of my tolerance because he has wasted this opportunity to get himself in a better position. I have offered him help with a job application and gently pushed him to ask his family for support. I’ve lost so much respect for him because he has a victim complex. I feel for him that he’s been dealt a difficult hand but he does nothing to improve his situation and is instead looking to me to make things ok for him. I’ve not had things easy either but have always just got on with it. I’ve also been lucky in some respects and I suspect he resents this as I hear the way he talks about other friends who have been helped by family.

I really hoped we could stay friends but I’m starting to feel like he’s emotionally manipulating me and is over reliant on my support. We set up a community group together and he’s adamant he wants to still run it together and feels it’s ‘half his’ despite me doing 90% of the emotional labour and planning.

Thanks for letting me vent. I feel like IBU to be so blunt but I don’t know how else to get him to stand on his own two feet. AIBU?

OP posts:
pinkstinks · 17/01/2023 14:16

Change your locks - that can be the first boundary. For now he is massively overstepping - you need to prioritise you and the DC.
the next step can be boxing up his stuff. Then has no need to be in the house.
good luck

LaFemmeDamnee · 17/01/2023 14:16

Box up his shit and change the locks. He's taken the piss for far too long.

TheProblemIsMe · 17/01/2023 14:17

Block him, do not engage. You're not emotional rehab for this man nor his emotional support animal - enough's enough.

You sound like you are a good person but this bloke is taking the piss, even your kids can see he's walking all over you.

SingaporeSlinky · 17/01/2023 14:18

Why is all his stuff still at your place and why on earth does he still have a key? You’ve broken up. Whether you can maintain a friendship is for you to decide, but I would have a chat and explain that he needs to return the key immediately, not just come to your house unannounced and clear his stuff.

BakedTattie · 17/01/2023 14:19

He’s taken the piss, and still is. Tell him to do one and change the locks.

GoAgainstNicki · 17/01/2023 14:19

What the hell have I just read?! How old is this man?? I’m 23 and I wouldn’t even put up with this bullshit if the guy was the same age as me. Why is he so unable to get a job if you’ve already helped him with his CV?

YANBU for being blunt but I think you need to put your foot down a bit more. If you’ve broken up then why does he need to be using your shower/sleeping in your bed? Especially when your DC don’t like having him in your space

Addicted2LoveIsland · 17/01/2023 14:20

Sorry you're going through this. It sounds like he is depressed. I do think you need to set boundaries. He can come get his stuff and actually I would change the locks.

MatildaTheCat · 17/01/2023 14:20

No YANBU. Unfortunately he’s using you and manipulating your good intentions- this may well not be malicious but you are not his social worker or parent. He clearly has a lot of issues but he needs to fix them not you.

Signpost him to local services, strongly suggest a GP appointment, pack up his belongings and drop them over to his LL’s house and change your locks. You’ll feel crap initially but there’s no kind way of doing this.

Bunce1 · 17/01/2023 14:23

Yes. Change the locks and pack his stuff up.

He isn’t changing because you’re enabling him and now you’ve woken up to that you’ll need to establish some boundaries going forward.

Ask yourself what will you loose if he leaves your life? What does he bring to it?

KneeQuestion · 17/01/2023 14:23

You need to work on your boundaries and start putting your children’s comfort ahead of this cocklodger.

Shoxfordian · 17/01/2023 14:24

Change your locks and stop being such a mug

Goodread1 · 17/01/2023 14:25

Hi Op

you need to tell your friend to seek out charities that can help him such as citizen Advices Bureau, and Debt and Benefit Support services and Homeless charities,
Also mental health charities.

Also put in much stronger boundaries so you don't get taken advantage off in future.

ThreeLittleDots · 17/01/2023 14:25

Change the locks, tell him to fuck off.

You are not responsible for him whatsoever.

Put yourself and your children first. Never get into a situation like this with anyone ever again.

DrManhattan · 17/01/2023 14:25

I think you have done enough. He needs to move on now. Also change your locks!

WhenDovesFly · 17/01/2023 14:27

I agree with pp, you need to stop enabling this man OP. Set some boundaries - change the lock first. You can just change the barrel on most locks, no need to purchase the whole thing. Then get his stuff boxed up and take it back to his landlady's place before his tenancy ends. He still has a room there so there's no need for him to be using your shower.

Be less accessible, you don't owe this man anything. He may have been there for you in the past but it sounds like you've done plenty for him in return. He needs to start standing on his own two feet and not relying on others. Don't fall for his manipulation.

CuntyChopss · 17/01/2023 14:32

He’s acting like he’s the only one to experience undesirable living conditions but I stayed for months with an abusive ex until we could get to safety.
So your children have already experienced domestic violence and now you’re subjecting them to this, despite them being able to verbalise how uncomfortable he makes them in their own home?
No fucking words except those poor kids deserve better.

Dromerdary · 17/01/2023 14:37

It’s difficult because I do absolutely appreciate that things aren’t easy for him. He definitely has PTSD and depression which is no wonder considering some of the things he’s been through. But, I’ve pushed and pushed for him to seek help, explained what he needs to do, offered to go to his GP with him. He always says he needs to get a job first but then makes little effort to do that.

I will ask him to take his things once his living situation is more stable. A lot of the stuff is furniture and business equipment which he’ll have no space for being in one furnished room and I have a cellar so it’s not a problem. But, I don’t want him to come over all the time as I need space to process the breakup too.

He actually seemed a lot better after we broke up, he had a plan and seemed to understand what he needs to do to get back on track. He even said he’d realised nobody was going to save him which I thought was quite telling.

But since his landlady has been firmer with him, it’s all gone out of the window. I can’t respect someone who would rather sulk and sleep in their car rather than get on with it. It’s not ideal but it’s not the end of the world either. I just don’t understand why he’d do that to himself.

OP posts:
NewHopeNow · 17/01/2023 14:43

Things are not easy for him but isn't most of that on him? He's not helping himself. He's trying to make this your problem and it's not your problem. You are not responsible for him. You are not the bad guy if you prioritise your kids and yourself instead of letting this guy take the absolute piss.

He is not your friend. Get your key back and change your locks when you can. Sooner rather than later.

user1473878824 · 17/01/2023 14:44

He has somewhere to live. If he chooses to sleep in his car that’s up to him. I’m sure his landlady has a shower he can use. You aren’t chucking him on to the street. You are not his emotional crutch or his long suffering wife and your children don’t like him. He can sort himself out.

euff · 17/01/2023 14:50

Is he trying to make you his nurse with a purse? I learnt this expression on here. I would get the locks changed, he shouldn't have access without you. I understand you had a friendship prior to your relationship but boundaries need to be reset.

ICanHideButICantRun · 17/01/2023 14:55

He could still turn this around by doing what he agreed to do at his landlady's house. She must have been thrilled when he spent so much time at your house.

ICanHideButICantRun · 17/01/2023 14:56

I would get the locks changed and tell him that one of the kids lost their key and that's why you had it done. Don't give him a spare.

Bananallamarama · 17/01/2023 14:59

OP, you’ve been very nice to him. But the reality is that none of what you’ve written is your problem!

Cut him out, change the locks and live a happy life

MintChocCornetto · 17/01/2023 14:59

None of his situation is your problem OP.

It's his life to make a mess of. He might give you the sad panda eyes and hangdog expression but it's not your responsibility to find him a job or use your shower or provide a bed.

Stop letting him guilt you into being his mother. Change the locks, pack up his stuff.

ValerieDoonican · 17/01/2023 15:02

His problems are not your responsibility. You might have enjoyed the feeling of having fixed him, had such a thing been possible. But it isn't possible. Only he can fix himself. You are just an enabler who for some reason, are hooked on the idea of being lady bountiful. Your kids must be frantic with frustration.

Grow a spine,and ask yourself "what was I getting out of being royally taken the piss out of here?"

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