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Feel like a b!tch but I’ve had enough! AIBU?

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Dromerdary · 17/01/2023 14:12

The older I get, the more I just feel used by people. I purposefully keep my circle small for this reason.

A few years ago, I started a relationship with a long standing friend who had been there a lot for me. He had some issues and past trauma which appeared to affect his whole life, mainly his self esteem, and therefore his ability to earn. He practically moved in with me but maintained his own place, a room in a house owned by an older lady, somewhere he could have his kids on the weekends.

I never asked him for anything but accepted his offer to do DIY around the house as his ‘contribution’. Except he wouldn’t get round to it or would insist I be there to help rather defeating the point. There were other issues around his personal hygiene and how messy he was. I also started to feel frustrated that he would ask me to help him get his life on track but wouldn’t do anything to help himself. My DC started to resent him being there all the time.

I found it really difficult to break up because I was so worried about him coping on his own, but I found the courage to end things. Since then, he’s made excuses to visit - all of his stuff is here and he still has a key so sometimes he’ll come unannounced and then won’t leave for hours. My DC get cross with me when he’s here but he seems so upset and forlorn that it’s hard to tell him to go.

His landlady told him a while ago that he’d need to leave in a few months time because she had a relative moving in with her. They had a similar arrangement that he’d get reduced rent in exchange for DIY jobs that he clearly wasn’t doing because she told him he’d either have to start doing the jobs or she’d increase his rent. He hasn’t reacted well to this and is now sleeping in his car instead of staying there or either finding somewhere else to live or asking his siblings to help who both live locally. He hasn’t even told them we’ve broken up because he doesn’t want them to ask questions.

He messaged to ask if he could come over to use the shower so I agreed but of course he didn’t leave because he doesn’t want to go home. He was then asking if I could help him with his CV even though I already did that last year and I’m busy with other stuff. He kept bothering me so I was kind of being blunt and ignoring him. Then he asked if he could sleep in my bed for an hour so I snapped and told him I get it in the neck from my DC whenever he’s here. So he left, obviously upset and I feel bad because he’s probably going to sit in his car in sub zero temperatures for the next week instead of just sucking it up and staying at his landlady’s house until he finds somewhere else. He’s acting like he’s the only one to experience undesirable living conditions but I stayed for months with an abusive ex until we could get to safety. He has health issues that will be exacerbated by living in his car.

I normally go out of my way to help people but I’m just at the end of my tolerance because he has wasted this opportunity to get himself in a better position. I have offered him help with a job application and gently pushed him to ask his family for support. I’ve lost so much respect for him because he has a victim complex. I feel for him that he’s been dealt a difficult hand but he does nothing to improve his situation and is instead looking to me to make things ok for him. I’ve not had things easy either but have always just got on with it. I’ve also been lucky in some respects and I suspect he resents this as I hear the way he talks about other friends who have been helped by family.

I really hoped we could stay friends but I’m starting to feel like he’s emotionally manipulating me and is over reliant on my support. We set up a community group together and he’s adamant he wants to still run it together and feels it’s ‘half his’ despite me doing 90% of the emotional labour and planning.

Thanks for letting me vent. I feel like IBU to be so blunt but I don’t know how else to get him to stand on his own two feet. AIBU?

OP posts:
SallySunrise · 17/01/2023 15:04

He is not your responsibility.

If he's sleeping in his car it's because he's CHOOSING to.

Also, change the locks.

Diffuserqueen · 17/01/2023 15:05

He’s basically a homeless person and that’s why he wants to sleep in your bed and use your shower. His poor landlady just wants rid.

Saintasaurus · 17/01/2023 15:07

By letting him keep your key you are sending signals that he is welcome to your house.

Emmamoo89 · 17/01/2023 15:09

You need to block him

Swissmountains · 17/01/2023 15:10

What the hell,op his PTSD and depression is not your problem. His furnishing are cluttering up your house is not an excuse to allow him to stay. Hell no!

Give him 24 hours to collect his stuff in a van, he can put into storage (that he pays for) and change the locks today. You are being used and some, he has no intention of getting his life back on track! He is planning to wholesale move in.

Listen to your dc, put them first! He needs to go immediately. Stuff boxed up and out the door. You have wasted so much time on this loser already!

ehb102 · 17/01/2023 15:10

Sounds like you are now enabling him. Time to stop, look after you and yours and let him hit bottom so he can find his feet.

Riverlee · 17/01/2023 15:12

You’re a nice person and want to help.

However, Time to start putting in boundaries. It may feel a little selfish, but his problems aren’t yours to fix. He needs to start sorting out his life, and getting things organised.

WinterFoxes · 17/01/2023 15:12

You are so NBU. He is an adult. He seems to think the world should revolve around him and supply his needs while he gives nothing in return, breaks his promises and oversteps every boundary.

If you want to help him, give him one final piece of advice: We are all responsible for our own lives, our own mess, our own upkeep. Get your act together. If you are depressed, get some meds and some therapy. If you are broke, get a job - there are loads of jobs out there right now.

You owe him nothing at all. What has he ever done to thank you and return your support and massive generosity? HIBU. You are not.

Saintasaurus · 17/01/2023 15:13

I feel so sorry for your dc. It must be awful for them watching you be treated like this, and have a man enter their house, with his own key, whenever - and not leaving when he gets asked to. They can’t feel safe. Not cool op.

Emotionalsupportviper · 17/01/2023 15:13

LaFemmeDamnee · 17/01/2023 14:16

Box up his shit and change the locks. He's taken the piss for far too long.

Please take this good advice and change the locks.

He is an adult men- he had two good things going - your friendship and his landlady, and all he had to do was fulfil his promise of tackling minor household jobs. He couldn't be bothered even to do this.

He is NOT your responsibility. He will move back in by cunning if he gets the chance and may become abusive. You will have the devil's own job to get him out.

Please don't give him the opportunity. Change the locks, put his belongings into bin bags and when he next contacts you give him his stuff and break all contact.

JackieDaws · 17/01/2023 15:14

Change the locks, block hom, ignore him.

He'll have a new partner in a few weeks because no one falls in "love" quicker than a man who needs to find a new place.

Lovemusic33 · 17/01/2023 15:14

You need to be tough here.
Box his things up and tell him to come collect them, he needs to sort his life out, his problems are not yours or your DC’s. He was surviving alone before you met him and will do again. He’s leaning on you because you keep helping him, he needs to help himself.

Riverlee · 17/01/2023 15:15

Also, you may feel he’s been dealt ‘a difficult hand’ but only because he’s not addressing his problems. It’s his responsibility to find somewhere to live, apply for a job etc. He needs to help himself.

crosspusscrossstitcher · 17/01/2023 15:17

LaFemmeDamnee · 17/01/2023 14:16

Box up his shit and change the locks. He's taken the piss for far too long.

^This.

Bag and box every last thing, tell him to collect it.
You don't need to mention the key.
Change the lock yourself - if it's yale or a euro cylinder they're really easy to do, you just need a screwdriver (and a youtube video).

Please don't let this drag on. You need to sort it out this week.

Entwifery · 17/01/2023 15:17

Is he an addict? I know two alcoholics who behave very similarly, it's common unfortunately. He'll never sort himself out and get his shit together as long as he has you to fall back on. I do wonder if the sleeping in the car bit is just a guilt trip to put pressure on you?

The kindest thing to do is cut him off and point him in the direction of social services and the GP for therapy and get on with your life.

CaveMum · 17/01/2023 15:19

Good grief, change the locks and get his stuff out. If he doesn't have anywhere to put it he can rent a lock up/storage garage like any other person. If he doesn't have the money for that then he needs to come up with another solution - it's not your problem!

You are not responsible for him or his choices. Listen to your children - they don't want him there, so don't give him any excuse to come around.

Dodecaheidyin · 17/01/2023 15:19

I will ask him to take his things once his living situation is more stable. A lot of the stuff is furniture and business equipment which he’ll have no space for being in one furnished room and I have a cellar so it’s not a problem.

Again, you're putting him before you. It is a problem in your cellar because it still gives him what he views as his right to come round to yours. He is using you. He doesn't care for you the way you care for him.

He may well have all manner of issues but there's always an excuse why he can't work on them, isn't there. Please start putting yourself and your children before this 'man' whose behaviour is working for him. He'll sort himself out quick enough when he doesn't have you to fall back on. Try it and see (although I think you'd be better cutting all contact).

AreOttersJustWetCats · 17/01/2023 15:19

If he won't seek help for his depression, that's on him. You can lead a horse to water, but he needs to actually talk to his GP.

Instead he just mooches off you, mooches off his landlady, doesn't work (has he had a job in the time you've known him?), and acts like everyone owes him an easy life. You're right to describe it as a victim complex.

Definitely change the locks - I can't believe he ever made it over the threshold tbh. You might want to consider what led you to let him into your life to the extent that you did, as most women would run a mile from a man who doesn't work, doesn't contribute ain any other way, has poor hygiene, depression and won't seek help.

unclebuck · 17/01/2023 15:19

Your update is very worrying OP. You really are being played by him. He will never be more stable, he is making you responsible for him.

Choconut · 17/01/2023 15:19

My advice would be to only date people with good mental health and positive self esteem, anyone else should be working on themselves before getting in a relationship. Stop going out of your way to help people and letting them take advantage of you. Get good boundaries for yourself and let people go that don't respect them. Stop trying to save people, it's making you become nasty when they become reliant on it and it becomes too much for you. Don't become nasty, it's not you, don't let it get to that point, be firm and clear about what you are prepared to do and what you aren't.

JennyJenny8675309 · 17/01/2023 15:21

Cut all ties. He needs to handle his own problems and you have your own family to focus on. As someone said up-thread, he’ll find someone new out of necessity.

pristinesurfacesGBTD · 17/01/2023 15:22

You've done a lot to try and help him. He's failed to engage.

Sounds like he has significant psychological issues and needs professional help. You are not qualified to provide this.

Contact your local social services and let them know he's sleeping in his car for starters. This will put him on their radar. Police might take an interest in someone sleeping in his car (they don't have much else on).

Change the locks so he can't come into your home uninvited. It will make your children who live there feel less anxious as well.

As much as you want to help him, he doesn't want to be helped. Step back.

BearingFalseWitness · 17/01/2023 15:24

It’s not your fault or responsibility that he is trying to be dependent on you. Don’t let him emotionally manipulate or blackmail you. He seems to have become the “powerful victim” where although he says life has been so hard etc. he is using that to get what he want and guilt you.

It’s not a surprise that he has used this behavior to get into the homes of two women, he wants to behave like a child and have you take responsibility for him. Think about yourself and your children. Your children are showing you quite clearly that his behavior is completely inappropriate and his is sponging on your good nature.

You must put in hard boundaries and make it clear that “it’s over”. Pack up all his belongings, if necessary change your phone number and if he turns up at your house don’t answer the door. Every time you allow him back in your life you are encouraging him to try again. The fact that he has left so much stuff we you is to prevent closure. Again, you have to put in hard boundaries. He is a grown adult, your children are TRUE dependents and need your attention. Don’t get dragged into his life and problems, they are nothing to do with you.

He adds NOTHING to your life except problems. Don’t be such a mug and a pushover.

AreOttersJustWetCats · 17/01/2023 15:24

As well as changing the locks and getting his stuff out of my house, I would make his siblings aware. It may be that they don't care (he may have exhausted their sympathies in the past), but they may persuade him to get help.

But it's not your problem.

reader12 · 17/01/2023 15:26

You need to prioritise your kids and their feelings of comfort and security in their home. They have already watched you suffer from violence, don’t make them watch you ignoring their feelings while being taken advantage of by this man any longer. Show them that adults are responsible for themselves.

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