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Sorry. Another Andrew Tate thread

198 replies

JusteanBiscuits · 29/12/2022 10:08

Having been following the Greta / Tate stuff on a number of different sites (and cheering Greta on so hard!) I see time and time again men (and yes it's men) posting about how if they were allowed their masculinity, Tate wouldn't have the fans but they get told that masculinity is toxic, how it's been taken away from them, how they are an "underclass".

What exactly has been taken away from men?!

As far as I can tell, Tate followers don't like the fact that women will no longer put up with being second class. Won't put up with being harassed or sexually assaulted. Are willing to stand up for themselves and be counted.

Are this section of men really so very weak that they are so threatened by this?

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sashagabadon · 29/12/2022 20:55

TinaYouFatLard · 29/12/2022 17:45

Whatever the average Mumsnetter thinks of AT, there are huge numbers of young men and boys who think he’s the Top G. We need to be asking why and taking it seriously rather than chortling about SDE and writing him off as a laughable dick.

Agree completely and to the pp who said AT has fewer fans today than yesterday, it’s the exact opposite. He has more.
I have started talking positively to my ds, pointing out fantastic male role models ( and there’s loads of them ) as I want him to think being male is great ( which it is) .
I don’t want a negative downtrodden son looking for a solution on the internet.

LexMitior · 29/12/2022 20:55

Yes it was excellent and very funny!

Tate is a knuckledragger and so are his followers.

Readabookgroucho · 29/12/2022 21:02

Just ignore him,
don’t give the insecure tosspot, with mommy issues, any air time.

TooBigForMyBoots · 29/12/2022 21:19

sashagabadon · 29/12/2022 20:55

Agree completely and to the pp who said AT has fewer fans today than yesterday, it’s the exact opposite. He has more.
I have started talking positively to my ds, pointing out fantastic male role models ( and there’s loads of them ) as I want him to think being male is great ( which it is) .
I don’t want a negative downtrodden son looking for a solution on the internet.

I'm that PP.Xmas Smile If you think AT hasn't lost faith and fans because of this, you are underestimating their intelligence.

FloydPepper · 29/12/2022 21:23

I think being complacent, ignoring him, belittling his “fans” is a very risky game. I’d rather tackle it head on, although I’m genuinely not sure how best to do that.

he’s a duck, but actually a dangerous one

FloydPepper · 29/12/2022 21:24

Dick

thanks autocorrect!

hotdiggetydog · 29/12/2022 21:24

Sadly his video reply absolutely knocked her pathetic retort out of the park

MissyB1 · 29/12/2022 21:45

sashagabadon · 29/12/2022 20:55

Agree completely and to the pp who said AT has fewer fans today than yesterday, it’s the exact opposite. He has more.
I have started talking positively to my ds, pointing out fantastic male role models ( and there’s loads of them ) as I want him to think being male is great ( which it is) .
I don’t want a negative downtrodden son looking for a solution on the internet.

Can you tell me which positive male role models you direct them to? My 14 year old ds has been sucked in by Tate, he has just spent another 20 minutes defending him to me. It’s utterly depressing and really stresses me out.

sashagabadon · 29/12/2022 21:59

I don’t think AT has lost a single fan due to his run in with Greta. Literally none of his fans overlap with hers. They are both playing to their home fans and both see what they want to see and think their hero/ heroine wins. Equally deluded imo.

sashagabadon · 29/12/2022 22:04

A recent documentary I watched with my son was the Thai cave rescue. That is an absolute example of male role model positivity. The British rescuers with their obscure cave diving hobby and expertise knowledge, the Australian medic who devised the rescue plan to sedate the boys and implemented it and the young thai coach that kept 20 boys calm and alive for over a week. All fantastic and examples of positive masculinity.
that is the sort of thing I mean.

WaddleAway · 29/12/2022 22:20

hotdiggetydog · 29/12/2022 21:24

Sadly his video reply absolutely knocked her pathetic retort out of the park

It really, really didn’t.

FloydPepper · 29/12/2022 22:22

hotdiggetydog · 29/12/2022 21:24

Sadly his video reply absolutely knocked her pathetic retort out of the park

really?
no it didn’t. It was awful. But like others have said, no one who likes him will change their mind over this. If they believe all the bollocks he comes out with, this isn’t a game changer.

so I take it you think he speaks some truth?

TooBigForMyBoots · 29/12/2022 22:26

sashagabadon · 29/12/2022 21:59

I don’t think AT has lost a single fan due to his run in with Greta. Literally none of his fans overlap with hers. They are both playing to their home fans and both see what they want to see and think their hero/ heroine wins. Equally deluded imo.

It's not about an overlap of fans. It's about boys, who listened to AT, seeing him making a tool of himself and being burnt by a teenage girl young enough to be his daughter.

And then he released that video.Xmas Blush
😂😂😂

hotdiggetydog · 29/12/2022 22:26

WaddleAway · 29/12/2022 22:20

It really, really didn’t.

The thing is about facts is that they are quite hard to argue with

witheringrowan · 29/12/2022 22:27

hotdiggetydog · 29/12/2022 21:24

Sadly his video reply absolutely knocked her pathetic retort out of the park

twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1608580052220014592

It's led to him getting arrested in Romania for people trafficking, so don't think he really can claim this as a win.

TinaYouFatLard · 29/12/2022 22:27

I really thought that people on the left would have learned something, after Brexit and Trump, about ignoring disenfranchised groups.

FloydPepper · 29/12/2022 22:28

TooBigForMyBoots · 29/12/2022 22:26

It's not about an overlap of fans. It's about boys, who listened to AT, seeing him making a tool of himself and being burnt by a teenage girl young enough to be his daughter.

And then he released that video.Xmas Blush
😂😂😂

But they think he won that exchange

Americano75 · 29/12/2022 22:31

Is this the guy who just got arrested for human trafficking?

CitronVert22 · 29/12/2022 22:32

The people on Greta's side think she won and the people on Andrew's side think he did. Because we cling to our tribes.

Although if it's lead to him revealing he was in Romania, and hence his arrest, then it has to be 1-0 to Greta. Although the true fans will see that as evidence of his unfair treatment. What was said up above about power in victimhood is unfortunately true.

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 29/12/2022 22:35

Saw that tweet the other day, definitely on team Greta! 😁
Her response was perfect, just the right level of "don't give a shit, little man" and playground (which, let's face it it seems like playground is at his level!)

Thebestwaytoscareatory · 29/12/2022 22:44

TinaYouFatLard · 29/12/2022 22:27

I really thought that people on the left would have learned something, after Brexit and Trump, about ignoring disenfranchised groups.

Are you genuinely suggesting we should and take people who think a woman's sole purpose in life is to stay at home and be a fuck toy seriously?

DuncinToffee · 29/12/2022 22:45

Americano75 · 29/12/2022 22:31

Is this the guy who just got arrested for human trafficking?

Yes

Andrew Tate’s video in response to Greta Thunberg allowed Romanian authorities to confirm he was in the country, and arrest him in human trafficking investigation, due to the pizza chain shown in the 2-minute rant.
twitter.com/PopBase/status/1608586308880039936?t=NnEDC7ehw_R0NviiTalxsw&s=19

Americano75 · 29/12/2022 22:46

DuncinToffee · 29/12/2022 22:45

Yes

Andrew Tate’s video in response to Greta Thunberg allowed Romanian authorities to confirm he was in the country, and arrest him in human trafficking investigation, due to the pizza chain shown in the 2-minute rant.
twitter.com/PopBase/status/1608586308880039936?t=NnEDC7ehw_R0NviiTalxsw&s=19

That's fucking hilarious, you couldn't make it up! What a fanny.

Remainiac · 29/12/2022 22:47

MissyB1 · 29/12/2022 21:45

Can you tell me which positive male role models you direct them to? My 14 year old ds has been sucked in by Tate, he has just spent another 20 minutes defending him to me. It’s utterly depressing and really stresses me out.

Get him to listen to Andy Murray in conversation with Nazanin Zaghari Ratcliffe on the Today programme earlier this week. Andy is the antithesis of Tate, is worth at least £60m, a feminist, is a father of four and former world number one in his chosen career. That’s a role model.

moonmoon123 · 29/12/2022 22:50

JusteanBiscuits · 29/12/2022 10:08

Having been following the Greta / Tate stuff on a number of different sites (and cheering Greta on so hard!) I see time and time again men (and yes it's men) posting about how if they were allowed their masculinity, Tate wouldn't have the fans but they get told that masculinity is toxic, how it's been taken away from them, how they are an "underclass".

What exactly has been taken away from men?!

As far as I can tell, Tate followers don't like the fact that women will no longer put up with being second class. Won't put up with being harassed or sexually assaulted. Are willing to stand up for themselves and be counted.

Are this section of men really so very weak that they are so threatened by this?

his just a massive gimp