To ask what exactly Clarkson

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Feels Meghan has done to him to justify the vitriol and misogyny of that article he wrote where he’d like to see her naked and assaulted?

I mean WTF? How in earth did a major publication think that it was fine to publish his little sexual fantasy about hurting a woman like that?

I’m no fan of the Royals in any form, and could care less about their infighting, but why are we surprised that there is so much violence against women and girls when this kind of article by an influential man is seen as okay to write?
Where’s his description of a naked, vulnerable Harry being assaulted??

I dislike a lot of the media, especially tabloids, but what publication commissioned/posted a racist cartoon of a baby chimp? I don’t understand if there’s all this hatred why people say things that aren’t true. Correct me if I’m wrong but this refers to Danny Baker on his personal Twitter who posted a photo of a white couple holding hands with chimp. He lost his job. Some moron on Twitter is a bit different to a publication.

No idea what the outcome of the press complaints will be, maybe it won’t be considered inciting violence ( though I disagree) but perhaps it will reign in the ‘jokes’ about sexual violence in our press, for 5 minutes.

Piers Morgan currently on Twitter complaining that people feel they can attack him and there’s no come back or consequences for them.
Irony doesn’t begin to cover it.

This article didn’t happen in a vacuum. The tabloids and likes of Morgon, Sara Vine has been whipping up a frenzy of hate for years. It is highly unpleasant
Thousands of articles twisting everything she does and says. To name a few, money raised through the Grenfell cookbook for survivors, linked to ISIS. Her bow mocking our culture/the Queen, as if only the British bowed! She was mocking herself.

The palace cannot issue a simple statement say, misogyny in all its forms is unacceptable but was able to issue a statement that MM is investigated for bullying. It transpires the accuser is an employee of the Cambridges and none of the other staff accused her of bullying. The same individual provided evidence against MM to support the DM case brought by her. This is in the court papers and publicly available. The palace waved the NDA.
Meanwhile, despite Andrew’s bodyguards have gone on record revealing sexual misconduct with underage girls., the palace has never investigated.
All this is very telling.
No doubt the palace is in cahoots. It is about preserving the hierarchy. Hatred based on initial popularity, race and class. all the while accusing MM of doing it, ironically the palace is irreparably damaging its reputation, particularly internationally.

Their PR team seems quite amateurish.

The PR team are amateurish because it's an archaic institution that has no idea how to move on. The diversity figures prove that, why not employ more young people, more people from other ethnicities, people who live in the real world and have had diverse jobs not just as an aide to an MP. The aides seem to move from being SPADs at Downing St to aides in the RF.

They need a big shake up

Clarkson should be arrested for inciting violence and a racist hate crime. The police should be all over this.

I don’t give a shit what Camilla knew, did, didn’t do etc it’s irrelevant. The point is that a vile man wrote a disgusting fantasy of sexual violence targeted at a high profile mixed race woman and it somehow got published in the national press. He needs locking up as do the editors who approved it.

As others have said if this was about a trans "woman" plod would be a knocking.....

Well yes, exactly. Remind me again why hating women isn’t a crime but hating TW is?

These things are planned with huge amount of care- the royal staff would know who was attending (whether it was their event or not), who they would allow near them etc etc. They would have an influence over who was there! It’s not like bumping into someone in Tesco you know!

100% agree. The palace advisors and PR people need replacing pronto. They are incompetent. Who on earth do Charles, William and Kate have advising them? The monarchy won’t last much longer under its current trajectory. They need new, fresh thinking.

If I were head of a colonial country I’d be making plans to leave based on what I’ve seen recently. Appalling.

I give it 48 hours before the RF put out a statement. Racist, sexist, pervert dinning with the QC?, that needs defending.
However slam dunk to H & M. They never need to comment again.

CrunchyKnee

Well yes, exactly. Remind me again why hating women isn’t a crime but hating TW is?

Because Special Feelings and Magic Sparkly Unicorn Gender Woo Woo.

To clarify...

Christopher Geidt private Secretary to Queen, then Boris Johnson's Chief Adviser
Lord Chamberlain and former head of MI5, Parker, courtier to the Queen
Simon Case, Cabinet Secretary became William's secretary
Cameron's spokesman Grey has became William's private secretary and head of KP household
Samantha Cohen, Johnson's Director of Office worked with Geidt at the Palace

And they say the RF are apolitical...

‘The palace cannot issue a simple statement say, misogyny in all its forms is unacceptable but was able to issue a statement that MM is investigated for bullying.’

its telling that they haven’t even been bothered about anything as weak as that.

and as for their PR and press being ‘amateurish’ . Bullshit. Like everything else they have the best money can buy. But ultimately the PR people are instructed by the Royals and their hands are tied if they’re told not to do something.

I'd go further in suggesting that all this augurs strongly of the Windsors having provoked it in the first place.

I believe the couple's claims about the negative campaign emanating from within their own walls, and the reason I believe them is that we've seen it all before. This was precisely the same MO Charles adopted in convincing the public that his first wife was mad. And his elder son, disgustingly, is adding to that rhetoric by suggesting Martin Bashir fueled his mother's 'paranoia' (his choice of word).

Charles and his elder son are like two peas in a pod, those two. Imagine speaking about your own dead mother as though she's some kind of whack job. And they said she was manipulative.

Diana is sufficient evidence that this is what happens to people who cross the Windsors.

@vera99 - and have, when the Humberside Police called to 'check the thinking' of a certain ex police officer who challenged them in court and (thankfully) won.

Protect the men, protect the establishment (cf. those at the Sarah Everard vigil who were charged by the London Met Police), at all cost, especially the cost of women.

Threaten a prominent author outside her own home, write salacious articles about pelting a woman with excrement, or how about a few rape threats, death threats, threats to 'kerb stomp' a woman or hope she dies in a grease fire? That's without the horrifying statistics of the number of women harmed or killed at the hands of men.

According to the police response, that's a-okay. Women are fair game. 'Furious' doesn't even begin to describe how I feel about this.

And Camilla's a patron and ambassador for charities standing against VAWG. I'm a republican, and support none of them, but did find her a sight more likeable than her husband and possessing a bit of wit and warmth. In the light of the last week I'm happily willing to amend that view. She makes me sick.

And this... just last month from Camilla

twitter.com/_PeterHunt/status/1605339791138213888

Depends who it is being threatened with violence I assume.

Because the Tories refused to make misogyny a Hate Crime.

Camilla is very very much in this chain Which link's to Clarkson and piers Morgan at the top.
They are relentlessly gunning for a woman.
Relentlessly...going and going and going for a person who has done nothing.

Camilla, attended this bash with both men who are gunning for her daughter in law. Camilla is a champion of domestic violence and one hopes a supportive wife to her husband in this tragic situation. As a figure head, as a mother once removed she and the palace and Charles should be embarrassing and chiding JC.

That certainly doesn't take away from the perpetrators at all.
But one reason they continue to abuse is because the palace lets them.

Are you seriously suggesting that Camilla instructed them to use their positions as columnists to bad-mouth Meghan?

Marial I was also deeply uncomfortable with Williams Bashir statement

It feels like we are back in the dark ages at the moment with the lack of action, on women and standing up for women.

Did my post say, or even imply this? No?

In which case, no.

But they felt safe doing so. They may have been wrong in that but she hasnt given any evidence they were.