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Nogbreaks · 19/12/2022 08:26

Feels Meghan has done to him to justify the vitriol and misogyny of that article he wrote where he’d like to see her naked and assaulted?

I mean WTF? How in earth did a major publication think that it was fine to publish his little sexual fantasy about hurting a woman like that?

I’m no fan of the Royals in any form, and could care less about their infighting, but why are we surprised that there is so much violence against women and girls when this kind of article by an influential man is seen as okay to write?
Where’s his description of a naked, vulnerable Harry being assaulted??

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CatAndHisKit · 20/12/2022 19:12

*people who don't

Lovely13 · 20/12/2022 19:14

I’m one of 20,000 and rising people who’ve reported article to IPSO, press watchdog. But I hear they won’t be able to anything as it hasn’t breached their rules as misogyny is not a hate crime. Which says as much about our society as his vile piece

Roussette · 20/12/2022 19:17

CatAndHisKit · 20/12/2022 19:12

JC always made vile remarks as it's his dark sense of humour. When he speaks he doesn't say it in a malicious tone so it's clear it's his sense of humour, but it sure comes across like that written in an article, to people who dpesn't watch him normally!

Do you honestly honestly think that that makes his article OK?

I've never heard such a defence of JC.... he's always like this, it's just his sense of humour.
It's like saying your Uncle that gropes you all the time... just ignore it, he always does it.

Maybe it's time he got called out for his vile rhetoric? Just a thought.

I think 17,000 complaints to IPSOS should maybe make you think again about his bantz. You're rather on your own here with your view.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 20/12/2022 19:23

CatAndHisKit · 20/12/2022 19:12

JC always made vile remarks as it's his dark sense of humour. When he speaks he doesn't say it in a malicious tone so it's clear it's his sense of humour, but it sure comes across like that written in an article, to people who dpesn't watch him normally!

Oh, I've heard him speak. Complete with his extremely grating, exaggerated falling intonation.

If he's about as funny as a bad case of piles in print then if anything he's even worse in the spoken voice. But his attitude is by no means new. He's always been like this.

No wonder even his daughter is mortified.

CriticalAlert · 20/12/2022 19:24

The Sun is a misogynistic , racist, fascist rag.
I hope Meghan takes it to the cleansers and does the Clarkson pig too.

Rowthe · 20/12/2022 19:29

Lovely13 · 20/12/2022 19:14

I’m one of 20,000 and rising people who’ve reported article to IPSO, press watchdog. But I hear they won’t be able to anything as it hasn’t breached their rules as misogyny is not a hate crime. Which says as much about our society as his vile piece

It's not misogyny, it is inciting violence

Givemyheadpiece · 20/12/2022 19:30

@CatAndHisKit thanks for clearing that up.
remember everyone - threatening sexual violence is fine just so long as it’s done Nina jaunty tone.

Feste · 20/12/2022 19:33

Treaclemine · 19/12/2022 08:48

I'm pretty glad I never watched Game of Thrones, or read the books. George Martin and the makers of the series have fed that fantasy. Poor actress. Sensitivity readers and intimacy choreographers presumably not involved.
How many other men are applying that imagery to whom?

I couldn’t agree more. GOT is truly misogynistic and appalling, from the glimpses I’ve had of it. We will look back on it with utter amazement. It’s several steps back for equality.

Missingpop · 20/12/2022 19:37

I personally cannot stand the man; a hugely over inflated ego; I cannot see what his talent actually is he’s crass; vile, breaks the law (thinking planning permission on his farm shop & adhering to hygiene rules) yet people still rant how awesome he is, as far as I can see Kermit had more talent & it’s blatantly obvious he only talks when someone’s git their hand up his arse!! Clark sons rant about MM was vile; as was the tabloids decision to print it; both should be held equally responsible & both should get the book thrown at them; how either thought it was acceptable to put such a vile rant into the public domain is mind boggling it’s no wonder the poor woman felt so violated living in this country!!

oosha · 20/12/2022 19:46

Whatever your views of Harry and Meghan or the Royal family, for me this boils down to the simple fact that a pale, old, white male thought it was perfectly acceptable in this day and age to write something like that about a woman. Jeremy Clarkson is disgusting and his own daughter has taken a stance away from him on this one……we can’t keep allowing the old boys club to treat and talk about any women in this way.

CatAndHisKit · 20/12/2022 19:57

Rousette
I've never heard such a defence of JC.... he's always like this, it's just his sense of humour.
It's like saying your Uncle that gropes you all the time... just ignore it, he always does it.

I'm just reminding everyone that many people have intensely disliked JJC and his dark humour for yons. Some like his grating humour. No, not ok to wtite such articles as not only his fans read them, to the majority it's awful to read - he thinks he's being hunourous and does appeal to his fans but they are in the in minorty. He did say nasty things about men too, btw.

Ilikeredtoomuch · 20/12/2022 20:02

Sillybanana · 19/12/2022 08:29

Absolutely agree, I’m sick of the demonisation of her. You might find her irritating but for gods sake, what has she actually done? People act like she’s hitler or something. Disgusting!

This!

rosemarysalter · 20/12/2022 20:13

When is cancel culture going to catch up with Clarkson the c**t?

cavalier · 20/12/2022 20:26

He’s absolutely vile and should be sacked from millionaire program.
creep

Givemyheadpiece · 20/12/2022 20:48

It’s time Millionaire got rid of him anyway, they might think that having someone who appears to barely tolerate most of the contestants and probably mispronounces the non-white names adds to the tension but it just makes the format tired.

Willowsodyssey · 20/12/2022 21:14

We have power people. Stop watching, reading anything by this vile man and write a complaint to any business that employs him. His time is over.

Morceaux · 20/12/2022 21:32

It’s hidden behind a paywall, but looks like the Torygraph are in support of Clarkson’s article (and not his apology) as it ‘allows the wrong people to crawl onto the moral highground’.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/12/20/jeremy-clarksons-biggest-mistake-capitulate/

Deranged.

Morestrangethings · 20/12/2022 21:42

AcerbicColleague · 20/12/2022 19:08

I hear you... Trump gave license to people to spout their bile. A very sorry legacy.

I disagree with the Kanye comment though. KW is mentally unwell, and the reporting of his antics whilst having an episode is incredibly irresponsible. It's a perfect example of clickbait, and extraordinarily damaging both to KW, people who experience psychosis, and to people who do not understand mental illness (most people :( )

Yes, I’ve rethought my take on Kanye. The reporting of his troubled actions is mostly what is wrong here. Especially given what he said most recently about Jews. He is unwell. But people who want to hate Jewish people will feel emboldened by his published views. This seems to be really about the indecent standards of some sections of the media, again.

newnamethanks · 20/12/2022 21:43

Telegraph approves? You were expecting something else?

Morceaux · 20/12/2022 21:58

newnamethanks · 20/12/2022 21:43

Telegraph approves? You were expecting something else?

I suppose so, given that even the Mail found it in them to voice their (thoroughly hypocritical) criticism.

I’m also alarmed at the deafening silence from the Royal Family.

I don’t expect you’ll hear me singing the national anthem in the future. I’ve always been pretty indifferent to the institution but they and their allies/mouthpieces in the press really are just appalling.

Givemyheadpiece · 20/12/2022 22:24

‘It’s hidden behind a paywall, but looks like the Torygraph are in support of Clarkson’s article (and not his apology) as it ‘allows the wrong people to crawl onto the moral highground’.

which people? Women who are sick and tired of the threat of violence being taken as something to joke about? Women who have experience misogyny and sexual violence 1st hand? Women who have girl children and despair of what they’re going to have to put up with one day
Those people? Or are they only worried about the opinions of other men?as usual.

Danja2010 · 20/12/2022 22:33

DrDinosaur · 19/12/2022 12:57

Neither I nor Jeremy Clarkson seriously believe she is like Rose West - it is obviously exaggeration for humorous effect.

There is nothing humorous in JC’s comment ! It is just vile hate speech . The sad thing is that it pays. All the tabloids cash in on remarks like this. Trying to pretend it is humour is especially disgusting.

Mummytobaby · 20/12/2022 22:39

There seems to be a stream of these white, old men who are obsessed with Meghan and hate her! I think they are repressing their own true perverse feelings towards her.

Autumn61 · 20/12/2022 22:44

“He needs to apologise to make amends”.
JC “I’m sorry Prince Harry ,”
Oh that’s fine JC , you’ve made amends for your cruel and heinous comments. Fancy a new TV series? Said nobody ever ! What a cunt.

Morceaux · 20/12/2022 22:49

Danja2010 · 20/12/2022 22:33

There is nothing humorous in JC’s comment ! It is just vile hate speech . The sad thing is that it pays. All the tabloids cash in on remarks like this. Trying to pretend it is humour is especially disgusting.

I also don’t believe it was meant to be humorous.

Although I’m sure most have highly negative opinions on Rose West when questioned, I doubt she does (or ever did) cross most peoples’ minds on a regular basis. Meghan, on the other hand, seems to be at the forefront of many hateful peoples’ minds every day (as Clarkson himself describes).

Even if she was all the things she’s accused of, the level of vitriol is (and was even before Clarkson’s article) absolutely unhinged.