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MIL Sleeps over at our house once a week

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TwoBabas · 14/12/2022 16:00

Mother in Law is in her sixties, retired and sadly widowed.. we get along nicely but we are two very different people.

She lives a forty minute drive away but is a nervous driver...wont drive in the dark/ bad weather/uses SATNAV for every trip even when she knows the route for reassurance.
Since my firstborn (daughter) arrived she has been coming over to 'help out' once a week. It was initially a casual arrangement as I wanted her to bond with her grandchildren and for her to feel welcome in our home as I know she has struggled with depression since the death of her husband. She doesn't really have friends/hobbies. At first I thought she would eventually get back on her feet and build a life for herself but that is not happening and now I fear I have dug myself a hole. The issue I have is the length/time/frequency of her visits. She comes over and often doesn't want to drive home so she stays for a night, quiet often two night every single week. She doesn't ask to come on a certain day, it has turned into her texting my husband 'Will come up Thursday next week'... ect. I find it stifling as I cannot make plans to see other mums or attend regular baby groups. I have a 7 month old son now too and she always rocks up when I have finally got him to nap (normally early afternoon) causing our dog to go berserk and wake him up. I have asked her to text me to let me know her arrival time countless times but it just falls on deaf ears.
When she visits my two year old daughter gets very clingy to Grandma and shuns me, wanting Grandma to do everything for her and shouting 'no' at me constantly. Normally me and my daughter are super close and she is well behaved for me and doesn't shout at me like that when we are on our own. I find the dynamic/atmosphere different when Grandma is here and can't fully be myself with my daughter and discipline her the way I would on my own in front of grandma if that makes sense.

Our house only has two bedrooms and daughter has a single trundle bed that can convert to a double so Grandma ends up sharing daughters bed every week. I love their close bond and want her to enjoy a good relationship with grandma but I can't help but feel secretly hurt and like I become a back seat driver with my own daughter in my own home. Id rather she came for the day but go home before dark....... She struggles to get here in the morning as she is 'not a morning person' so that is how she weedles her way in by arriving in the afternoon not leaving much time before dark.

I don't know how to get out of this situation of having MIL staying over a couple of nights a week. Im finding it so stressful having another body in my home every week, someone else to worry about. If Im lucky enough to get both children to nap at the same time I feel obliged to sit and talk when really I want to rest and switch off. I cant get any jobs done. She never helps with cleaning/washing. Just tells me its impossible to have a clean house with two young children, and it 'looks fine' (it doesnt) ect. I end up having to make up her bed up before she arrives/pack it away when she leaves. Which may sound like nit picking but I am honestly so overwhelmed with the workload of a two year old and seven month old that it seems like a major effort to do this every week. I have to wash extra bedsheets/towels. Make extra meals, clean up after her ect.
She would be gutted if she knew I felt this way but I don't think she realises how stressed I feel with two little children, the lack of time to myself and the constant work load. In her mind I genuinely think she feels she is 'helping' but truth be told I find these long visits add to my stress.

She gravitates toward the toddler and its really my son I am struggling with and needing help with. He has been a tricky baby and is very demanding and loud alot of the time. He is frustrated at his lack of movement and it's exhausting. I would like more help with him if anything but she often disappears off out the house with my daughter to a park or cafe leaving me in the house still contending with a screaming baby. My son loves watching his sister play and I find him much easier to look after when they are together so I also feel some resentment when she comes to help but ends up making my job more difficult.

Spoke to husband about this but he feels like he needs to look after his mum and worries about her being alone and depressed and reminds me she is just trying to help ect. Which I know she is and I don't want to be completely ungrateful but I am just be honest. I dont think he would cope well if my mum came to stay over two night a week! I have tried to gently suggest this to make him aware of it but I just don't think he gets it. He is at work for most of him mums visit so it's left to me.

I worry that she is going to keep coming and staying over for a few nights a week for the rest of our life's now her feet are firmly in the door. As I can't see her changing. Also should add that when she is not at our house she also goes and spends a night at her two sisters houses with their husbands/families. Meaning she is only ever at home on her own for one or two nights a week. I don't know how they feel about this as my husband isn't close enough to them to ask.
I feel awful for her and her struggles but what can we do to help her be more comfortable building her own life/being comfortable in her own home? How can I ask her to come earlier and leave before dark as I don't really like the overnight stays. I just feel I can't hurt her feelings.

Sorry for the long rant. AIBU?

OP posts:
Cherrysoup · 14/12/2022 16:07

God, this would drive me nuts, I hate house guests. Are you looking to upsize as you only have 2 beds? Could you move further away or would that not help? I think you need to put your foot down with your Dh, 45 mins away means she should easily be able to go home. It’s restricting you and it isn’t fair for your Dh to tell you he feels sorry for his mum when it’s having a huge impact on what you can do. Tell him he can take the time off work to look after her weekly! I think it’s time to put down the foot and start making a big fuss about this.

Cherrysoup · 14/12/2022 16:07

PS: it’s not up to you to tell her, your Dh needs to do that.

AllotmentTime · 14/12/2022 16:18

I cannot make plans to see other mums or attend regular baby groups.

Yes, you can and this is your way out.

“Oh by the way MIL, I’ll be out most afternoons next week so is it okay if we skip a week?”

Rinse and repeat until her visits are less frequent.

Point out to your husband that he is not “looking after his mum”, you are. He is asking you to sacrifice your own well-being to take care of hers. That’s not okay. He’s probably sticking his head in the sand convincing himself that she’s “helping” and that it’s all okay. Sit him down and explain kindly but firmly/clearly that this is tiring, stressful and creates more work for you, and that you’re going to be cutting down on her visits.

Are you on mat leave? If so Then what’s his/her plan for when you’re back at work?

Shimmyoo · 14/12/2022 16:18

You have no bedroom space, your children are about to start sharing a room so there will be no more overnight guests.

Agree your DH needs to tell her this.

curiositydoll · 14/12/2022 16:18

This would drive me insane too.

Why isn't DH the one sorting the bed and bedding out?

What happens if you tell MIL you have plans in the afternoon/evening? Does she come anyway? Definitely stop putting your life on hold/not making plans with your friends.

curiositydoll · 14/12/2022 16:20

That's a good point, start preparing DDs room for when DS moves in.

Put a bed for him in there, get rid of the trundle, and make the room exactly how you want it.

Or would she just sleep on the sofa?

Cocolapew · 14/12/2022 16:21

Tell your DH to take the DCs to see his mum at the weekend if he wants them to have a relationship. It's not up to you to manage her.
I'd go mad if my Dh allowed this to happen.

Squeezedsquash · 14/12/2022 16:22

That bedroom won’t be able to accommodate visitors once your baby has moved in to his sister’s room, surely.

your MiL is very lovely but she can’t keep doing this for the rest of forever. Even if, I’d say, it was effort neutral to you. It’s brutal having two of that age.

Yoir DH needs to have the conversation but first you’ve got to get him inside…

and book the activities. Do it anyway. Don’t let your life revolve around when she might turn up.

Shimmyoo · 14/12/2022 16:23

She can't sleep on the sofa, it would upset the dog etc.

Perhaps DH can follow her home next week to be sure she gets home safe (that'll learn him!). Better yet OP can and DH can do bedtimes whilst OP stays at MIL's for the night and gets a bit of looking after returned.

Lollypop701 · 14/12/2022 16:25

You have a dh problem I’m afraid… he’s not impacted really as the work is falling to you. I would get on with my life, go to baby groups, shopping whatever it is you want to do. If kids nap then do the jobs, go for a Kip. The more you pander to her the more she will come… she’s having a lovely time! Maybe arrange for dd to go to hers every couple of weeks, if you’re happy with it. Stop facilitating her life at your expense. If dh gets shirty then tell him he’s welcome to do the work that having his mum entails as this isn’t an every now and then event it’s all the time. Once you start e prepared for the fallout and maintain your boundaries

Shelby2010 · 14/12/2022 16:26

How about you drive over to her house, she makes you lunch & you come home? Not ideal but might be better.

Changename353 · 14/12/2022 16:27

As a bare minimum she should be picking up after herself. Your DH should have a word with her that she should be making/packing away the bed. Maybe don’t make her feel as comfortable as a guest - leave the kids with her and you get a day to run errands and time for yourself. Ask her to watch the kids in the morning as you never get to have a lie in. She’ll find that hanging over yours isn’t a break but exhausting and naturally find excuses to leave early.

GreenManalishi · 14/12/2022 16:28

I cannot make plans to see other mums or attend regular baby groups

Make plans, make lots of plans. Carry on as if she is not there. Let your DH know that he is in charge of washing and changing the bedding.

You say you can't hurt her feelings, but one of you is going to have to have some difficult feelings about this so you make sure it's not you. Tell your DH honestly that this is too much, agree that once a month or whatever would be fine, and he needs to tell her.

This would drive me round the twist.

Lollypop701 · 14/12/2022 16:29

I know I sound harsh op, but if you don’t put yourself first then this could be the next 10 years… and then she will want sell her home to move in with you! You will have lived your life not upsetting others but had no life for you.

Namenic · 14/12/2022 16:31

Can you ask her to look after your son while you go to the supermarket? I would tell her on what days I would be busy so she knows? Your DH taking kids to her over the weekend is another good possibility.

Unstuckduck · 14/12/2022 16:32

'Move' ds into dd's room, could you afford to get red of the trundle and get a child themed single bed instead? Something she couldn't possibly stay in.

Then if you put a cot in that room it means no room for a blow up bed?

It's just unfortunate that the children are getting older and you and dh need your space back..

Iwritethissittinginthekitchensink · 14/12/2022 16:41

“Oh by the way MIL, I’ll be out most afternoons next week so is it okay if we skip a week?”

this, except don’t ask for permission! It’s your house, own it.

“Oh by the way MIL, I’ll be out most afternoons next week so we can’t have you over this week. We’re next available on x date if you want to come over then - let me know what dates work for you.”

Get into the habit of saying what works for you and what doesn’t, nothing personal about it, just make it clear that arrangements need to be mutually agreeable.

Acheyknees · 14/12/2022 16:46

You need to break this routine, next time she texts your DH that she's coming over on x day next week you need to say 'sorry MIL, x isn't good for us, DH will come over on y to see you'

2bazookas · 14/12/2022 16:54

Tell DH he must divert all MIL's visits to weekends when he's around to look after her. MIL can help him make a meal; he can take her out with the baby etc.

Don't make up her bed; leave the folded stack of bedding on the bed. She can do it herself.

onefedupmum · 14/12/2022 16:56

Can't your DH drive her home? I would just say you can't have overnight guests after Christmas as baby is going in with DD and there's no room.

Maybe as a compromise she could have DD overnight at hers once a month?

RegularNameChangerVersion21 · 14/12/2022 16:57

I would keep up regular visits but not overnight and not wthout warning at her convenience. Either a set time or if not she checks with you before hand if that day is convenient and you tell her a time.

onefedupmum · 14/12/2022 16:57

Or you go over to hers? I would also drop hints like "I saw this local group by you that meets up xx day I think you'd really enjoy it." Here and there.

Interviewnamechange · 14/12/2022 17:03

My mum does this and my 2 year old son is exactly the same with Nanna. I have started to make arrangements and just carry on with life as normal but let her pitch up on the sofa. I have told her she’s more than welcome to stay but I have things to get on with.

I still get envious of son and nanny putting me as back seat parent, but I just keep reminding myself that it will create a happy childhood. Some of my loveliest memories are when my whole family were together and my Nan was staying.

If I were you, I would just put in some boundaries and get on with the things you would like to.

DisforDarkChocolate · 14/12/2022 17:10

Firstly, make plans with other Mums on the days she tells your husband she's coming and stick to them.

Secondly, tell your husband he's not looking after his mother, you are and you've had enough.

Greendoorsaremyfavourite · 14/12/2022 17:10

My mil lives in a different city an hour away and used to invite herself to come over every week, but like you I found it too much. We had to be firm and tell her it needed cutting down to every other week! She wasn't happy, but seemed to understand after sleeping on it. It's still a bit of a nuisance though as we have to plan our lives around 'her' weekend.

Whilst I understand your husbands concerns about his mum, it seems like the majority of the responsibility and inconvenience of her visits are on you! He really needs to be facilitating this if he wants to maintain that much contact